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BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Friday @ 12:17 AM ET
Necas looks really good playing with McKinnon.

Makar casual 4 pt night. He could get really hot and crack 100pts.

Edit: 6 pt night.

- bhawks2241


Weren't all these players 1st round picks?
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Friday @ 5:30 AM ET
But you're not originally from/born & raised in Finland. I guess what I'm trying to say is it's similar to all the Japanese baseball players coming over to play in MLB. You don't see them signing with Cleveland/St Louis/Kansas City/etc. They sign in big cities where they can find some similarity to home like LA, SF, Chi, NY, Sea, etc.
- Assman22


Back 20 years ago i spent a decent amount of time in Finland for work, the national activity was drinking, and really over drinking that translates everywhere in the world

Great people, great country, summer is much better...........
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Friday @ 7:01 AM ET
NYI get Calum Ritchie and a first for Nelson, wow!
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Friday @ 7:05 AM ET
NYI get Calum Ritchie and a first for Nelson, wow!
- Angotti


I was just about to say I'm surprised there hasn't been any trades. Good for the Islanders
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Friday @ 7:30 AM ET
From a North Carolinian who moved there from IL then VA, NC is a great place to live
- vabeachbear


So is VA. Lived outside of Richmond for a few years as a kid. Hockey wasn’t huge there and at the time Richmond didn’t have a rink so we’d take a bus to Charlottesville in the wee hours to practice.

The one sheet of ice they did have in Richmond was The Coliseum where the Robins (Flyers farm team at the time I believe) played. We got to play there once before a Robins game which was kind of cool.

Hawks have already made their big splash trade but still could be an entertaining day.
Angotti
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Friday @ 8:15 AM ET
I was just about to say I'm surprised there hasn't been any trades. Good for the Islanders
- BetweenTheDots

Looks like Rantanen going to Dallas with extension.
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Friday @ 8:21 AM ET
Looks like Rantanen going to Dallas with extension.
- Angotti

Source? Read the opposite per Dreger at 6:45am today. Still think he ends up in Dallas and they have the coin to do it.
Also, Canes offer was $12.5/8yrs. If Rantanen signs for less than $14 AAV, his agent should be canned.
Scott1977
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Friday @ 8:40 AM ET
I was just about to say I'm surprised there hasn't been any trades. Good for the Islanders
- BetweenTheDots

The return for Donato should be similar. He is younger can play center and both wings and also can play in the top six if needed. Very versatile Donato is. Again if Davidson does not get what he is asking for in return for Donato then resign him 3 years 4 million per.
stevefrmglencoe
Joined: 05.21.2013

Friday @ 9:11 AM ET
The return for Donato should be similar. He is younger can play center and both wings and also can play in the top six if needed. Very versatile Donato is. Again if Davidson does not get what he is asking for in return for Donato then resign him 3 years 4 million per.
- Scott1977


Donato has played well this season. Why would he resign here if he has a chance as a free agent to go to a team that won't finish in the 30s year after year?

Hoping Davidson isn't overplaying the trades and waiting too long. Returns drop late at the deadline.

Went to the Ottawa game Wednesday night. From the start, the Hawks got pinned in their zone for a minute at a time. Somehow they ended up with an offensive zone faceoff late with a chance to win the game in regulation and perhaps ruin Ottawa's season, the coach put Maroon on the ice. Slaggert, Nazar, and Bedard were developing by watching.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Friday @ 9:13 AM ET
Source? Read the opposite per Dreger at 6:45am today. Still think he ends up in Dallas and they have the coin to do it.
Also, Canes offer was $12.5/8yrs. If Rantanen signs for less than $14 AAV, his agent should be canned.

- Assman22


So would this gm look bad if he can't sign Rantanen after he gave up Necas for him. I'd be pissed as a Blackhawk fan. The analytics guy is running the show there now, right?
Angotti
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Chicago Blackhawks
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Friday @ 9:32 AM ET
Source? Read the opposite per Dreger at 6:45am today. Still think he ends up in Dallas and they have the coin to do it.
Also, Canes offer was $12.5/8yrs. If Rantanen signs for less than $14 AAV, his agent should be canned.

- Assman22

You read that he wasn’t going to Dallas? My understanding is that Dallas is working on an extension pre trade.
Angotti
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Chicago Blackhawks
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Friday @ 9:33 AM ET
The return for Donato should be similar. He is younger can play center and both wings and also can play in the top six if needed. Very versatile Donato is. Again if Davidson does not get what he is asking for in return for Donato then resign him 3 years 4 million per.
- Scott1977

I would trade Donato for Ritchie straight up.
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Friday @ 9:39 AM ET
So would this gm look bad if he can't sign Rantanen after he gave up Necas for him. I'd be pissed as a Blackhawk fan. The analytics guy is running the show there now, right?
- BetweenTheDots

Nill is the king of taking advantage of GM's in a bad spot and Carolina doesn't have much leverage per your point. They do have other teams that could pony up more than Dallas. I would say they'd give up Bourque for Rantanen but looking at their roster, they're very thin up the middle after this season as all 3 centers are free agents including Bourque (RFA).
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Friday @ 9:41 AM ET
You read that he wasn’t going to Dallas? My understanding is that Dallas is working on an extension pre trade.
- Angotti

Darren Dreger via X: "There is no deal between Dallas and Carolina for Mikko Rantanen. It appears Carolina may have to go back to the drawing board. Doesn’t mean a deal/extension with Dallas can’t materialize, but it’s not there as of now."
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Friday @ 9:42 AM ET
I would trade Donato for Ritchie straight up.
- Angotti

Same.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Friday @ 9:49 AM ET
Donato has played well this season. Why would he resign here if he has a chance as a free agent to go to a team that won't finish in the 30s year after year?

Hoping Davidson isn't overplaying the trades and waiting too long. Returns drop late at the deadline.

Went to the Ottawa game Wednesday night. From the start, the Hawks got pinned in their zone for a minute at a time. Somehow they ended up with an offensive zone faceoff late with a chance to win the game in regulation and perhaps ruin Ottawa's season, the coach put Maroon on the ice. Slaggert, Nazar, and Bedard were developing by watching.

- stevefrmglencoe


Same reason Bertuzzi did.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Friday @ 9:51 AM ET
So would this gm look bad if he can't sign Rantanen after he gave up Necas for him. I'd be pissed as a Blackhawk fan. The analytics guy is running the show there now, right?
- BetweenTheDots


I normally don't put much stock in things like this, but having gone through the exact same situation last year with Guentzel, yeah, this is not good.

Yes, Tulsky is running the show there.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Friday @ 9:52 AM ET
Darren Dreger via X: "There is no deal between Dallas and Carolina for Mikko Rantanen. It appears Carolina may have to go back to the drawing board. Doesn’t mean a deal/extension with Dallas can’t materialize, but it’s not there as of now."
- Assman22


Hmmm is kind of like when Bowman traded for Seth jones and had to over pay him because he didn't have a deal in place and the scandal was coming to the surface. Too bad for Carolina, hahaha
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Friday @ 9:53 AM ET
Donato has played well this season. Why would he resign here if he has a chance as a free agent to go to a team that won't finish in the 30s year after year?

Hoping Davidson isn't overplaying the trades and waiting too long. Returns drop late at the deadline.

Went to the Ottawa game Wednesday night. From the start, the Hawks got pinned in their zone for a minute at a time. Somehow they ended up with an offensive zone faceoff late with a chance to win the game in regulation and perhaps ruin Ottawa's season, the coach put Maroon on the ice. Slaggert, Nazar, and Bedard were developing by watching.

- stevefrmglencoe


On the bright side, you are not going to have to worry about this coach being the guy next season.
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Friday @ 9:55 AM ET
Hmmm is kind of like when Bowman traded for Seth jones and had to over pay him because he didn't have a deal in place and the scandal was coming to the surface. Too bad for Carolina, hahaha
- BetweenTheDots

Probably still ends up in Dallas but I've seen some shocking NHL deadline deals come out of nowhere
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Friday @ 9:55 AM ET
On the bright side, you are not going to have to worry about this coach being the guy next season.
- Chunk


It doesn't matter he won't be happy with whoever KD selects.

No comment about the Jones trade? Or maybe he doesn't know about it.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Friday @ 9:59 AM ET
Nill is the king of taking advantage of GM's in a bad spot and Carolina doesn't have much leverage per your point. They do have other teams that could pony up more than Dallas. I would say they'd give up Bourque for Rantanen but looking at their roster, they're very thin up the middle after this season as all 3 centers are free agents including Bourque (RFA).
- Assman22


Maybe so, but they would still have to pay Rantanen. It's clear Raty wants to get paid and these teams are throwing the but don't you want to win bull poop at him to take less.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Friday @ 10:00 AM ET
Probably still ends up in Dallas but I've seen some shocking NHL deadline deals come out of nowhere
- Assman22


One thing is clear no one wants to resign in Carolina.

Even though KD missed on Brodie, how does Carolina not resign Teuvo, he's such a good hockey player.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Friday @ 10:05 AM ET
Maybe so, but they would still have to pay Rantanen. It's clear Raty wants to get paid and these teams are throwing the but don't you want to win bull poop at him to take less.
- BetweenTheDots


I've said this before, but if I'm CAR, I just keep him, swallow the loss on the trade, and try to win the damn cup. Trying to save face on a trade for a guy like Rantanen when your team is in a good competitive position is just a bad distraction.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Friday @ 10:05 AM ET
Darren Dreger via X: "There is no deal between Dallas and Carolina for Mikko Rantanen. It appears Carolina may have to go back to the drawing board. Doesn’t mean a deal/extension with Dallas can’t materialize, but it’s not there as of now."
- Assman22

Friedman is reporting there’s a deal in place , waiting for Dallas to see if they can work out a deal with Rantanen.
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