My god, the vets on this team are useless.
- Chunk

I mean, depends who you are talking about. The vets on the team have been carrying the load a lot lately.

Last quarter season

Donato - 10 G 24 P
Teravainen - 5 G 19 P
Nazar 4 G 12 P
Bedard 4 G 12 P
Mikheyev 6 G 11 P

The top 3 Even Strength point producers in that stretch are Donato, Teravainen and Mikheyev, all vets, who are plus players or almost even.

Honestly this seasons Mikheyev > Bertuzzi.

If the Hawks have to trade a player to get a player, maybe they can use Bertuzzi in a deal? Except for one hot stretch of PP goals backdoor, he has been okay, but not that effective.

Bertuzzi is #2 on the team in PP time, but he isn't that great at setting a screen or winning battles, he gets out muscled a lot. He isn't a bad player, but he is IMO slightly below average defensively and just not taking advantage of opportunities for large stretches this season.

It's not going so well.
- bjphawkfan

Yea, we haven't seen this from Knight yet. Guarantee Knight would say he wants the first 2 back. On both he was caught standing flat footed and he was late to the shot. 3rd one is a changeup bad luck play.

Hope the Hawks get 1 back and allow Knight to keep the Sharks to just the 3.

What the (frank) a 10 minute misconduct to Bedard, good (frank)ing night, (frank)ing refs

Didn't get a chance to watch the game.
Just saw Levshunov ripped one off the post,but didn,'t see anyone mention his D play?
How did the Cossack look?

59 seems to have lost his mojo about the same time that he lost his hair style ... Samson theory, it's all I got.

Didn't get a chance to watch the game.
Just saw Levshunov ripped one off the post,but didn,'t see anyone mention his D play?
How did the Cossack look?
- captainserious

Arty was impressive the first 2 periods, but then it looked like the minutes were starting to wear him down in the 3rd. The kid covers a lot of ice and I saw him serve up just one pizza and he got his pocket picked in the corner once, but overall, it's impressive how much ice he can cover.

You really need to see this team in person to realize just how bad they are. I was expecting more jump after a couple of days off, but the Sharks were controlling play almost the entire 1st period. Worst game I've seen from Murphy in a while. Bedard couldn't out skate a single Shark. Nice fight by D!ckinson. The hit on Celebrini looked pretty bad, glad he answered for it.

3-4-3-3-3
It is my understanding the Blackhawks lost last night.

I mean, depends who you are talking about. The vets on the team have been carrying the load a lot lately.

Last quarter season

Donato - 10 G 24 P
Teravainen - 5 G 19 P
Nazar 4 G 12 P
Bedard 4 G 12 P
Mikheyev 6 G 11 P

The top 3 Even Strength point producers in that stretch are Donato, Teravainen and Mikheyev, all vets, who are plus players or almost even.
- breadbag

Yeah, that was a hot take at a specific moment of the game, and I was concentrating on the "character" guys they signed. It was painful watching Foligno, D!ckinson, and on nights when he plays Maroon. TT looked like he didn't want to touch a puck or an opponent at the time.

The more I watch TT the more I think he's a leprechaun. It's like he just magically finds point somehow.

Didn't get a chance to watch the game.
Just saw Levshunov ripped one off the post,but didn,'t see anyone mention his D play?
How did the Cossack look?
- captainserious

He had ups and downs. A bit more rookie mistakes than his first game, a little bit of running around a bit positionally and maybe a little bit more indecision. He was shooting from the point and trying to get them through, but also there was some lack of chemistry with him on the PP and some miscues with him and other players just not being on the same page. Overall he looks promising, but just 19 and playing in his second game with a lot of guys he isn't experienced playing with, it's understandable that wires get crossed a bit.

As far as last night… reason #187 why Sorensen should not be back as Hawks coach. Can’t believe I stayed up for those line combinations. I’m with Chunk, D!ckinson, Foligno, and Maroon can move on. Both Foligno and D!ckinson should be happy, they’ve been overpaid on this last contract. I know it helped them reach the cap floor, but KD needs to do better in free agency going forward. Most NHL players would score 20 goals if given the opportunity that D!ckinson was given last year. Rant over.

As far as last night… reason #187 why Sorensen should not be back as Hawks coach. Can’t believe I stayed up for those line combinations. I’m with Chunk, D!ckinson, Foligno, and Maroon can move on. Both Foligno and D!ckinson should be happy, they’ve been overpaid on this last contract. I know it helped them reach the cap floor, but KD needs to do better in free agency going forward. Most NHL players would score 20 goals if given the opportunity that D!ckinson was given last year. Rant over.
- Angotti

Velano is Jason Richardinson for half the price.

Velano is Jason Richardinson for half the price.
- LAHawk

Exactly. I guess you can keep Foligno for his last year of his contract, however he needs to be on the fourth line.

Exactly. I guess you can keep Foligno for his last year of his contract, however he needs to be on the fourth line.
- Angotti

That’s fine. The over the hill gang should and already has been drastically reduced since the season started.

Out - Smith, Mrazek, Jones

Not playing and likely bought out at season’s end - Brodie

UFA’s likely not back - Maroon and Martinez

They’ll still have Richardinson and Foligno and we’ll see if Donato resigns. No matter wht they do at forward and likely HC, they’ll start next season with improvements in net and on the backend vs how this one started.

That’s fine. The over the hill gang should and already has been drastically reduced since the season started.

Out - Smith, Mrazek, Jones

Not playing and likely bought out at season’s end - Brodie

UFA’s likely not back - Maroon and Martinez

They’ll still have Richardinson and Foligno and we’ll see if Donato resigns. No matter wht they do at forward and likely HC, they’ll start next season with improvements in net and on the backend vs how this one started.
- HawkintheD

If Martinez wants to stay in Chicago (or doesn't decide to retire), I would bring him back on a one year deal to be a 7th D, veteran presence. Currently the only true vet you will have next year (figuring Brodie is not part of the Hawks roster) is Murphy. Can't rely upon him playing a full season (or half of until the TDL) without being injured at some point.

Of course you can't rely upon Martinez staying healthy either.

If Martinez wants to stay in Chicago (or doesn't decide to retire), I would bring him back on a one year deal to be a 7th D, veteran presence. Currently the only true vet you will have next year (figuring Brodie is not part of the Hawks roster) is Murphy. Can't rely upon him playing a full season (or half of until the TDL) without being injured at some point.

Of course you can't rely upon Martinez staying healthy either.
- LAHawk

I keep hearing people say that the Hawks may take a run at Ekblad, and then wonder what they're smoking.

He had ups and downs. A bit more rookie mistakes than his first game, a little bit of running around a bit positionally and maybe a little bit more indecision. He was shooting from the point and trying to get them through, but also there was some lack of chemistry with him on the PP and some miscues with him and other players just not being on the same page. Overall he looks promising, but just 19 and playing in his second game with a lot of guys he isn't experienced playing with, it's understandable that wires get crossed a bit.
- breadbag

Aside from passing up the shot on the first PP and looking like a deer in headlights with the goalie pulled at the end of the game, I think Arty looks more comfortable in the NHL than the AHL. Maybe because it's a bit more of a free-for-all down there, or maybe it's just that he's with better players, but he looks more effective and engaged with the Hawks.

He gets shots on net so quickly, once the Hawks find some guys that actually want to go to the net, they'll be a lot more dangerous.

Didn't get a chance to watch the game.
Just saw Levshunov ripped one off the post,but didn,'t see anyone mention his D play?
How did the Cossack look?
- captainserious

Lev looked like a fit but had a better game v Rado and was lacking on the PP and looked dumbfounded when Sorensen had him out for a faceoff with the goalie pulled and about 1:20 left....... Looked like a player who hasn't practiced with a team and is playing in a game with them.

He didn't have much of a chance to showcase his skating and or open ice play. Watching SJ this yr I have been impressed with SJ's structure and with them clogging the neutral zone with all 5 players protecting a lead the whole 3rd period there wasn't much ice to exploit.

The corsi was dead even between the teams and Lev had a respectable 48.28% although he and Martinez were on the ice for an ugly 11 shots against and 6 for. Sorensen did not juggle the pairings with all 3 pairs skating 17:00ish minutes together.

The Del Mastro-Murhpy pairing ruled with an 11 shots for and 4 against. Del Mastro it seems puts up nice fancies. He's trending like he always has. Only called up to his WJC team cuz of injury then taking 1st unit opponents and big minutes he goes to RKF, keeps his head down until he again takes big minutes now in the Bigs almost as an after thought and here he goes again playing reliable steady know what your gonna get minutes.

This was the first time the Hawks looked like they did with Jones. Flat, not real hungry, spotty efforts and Bedard was 1st in that line. No surprise looking at the fancies but they backed up the eye test of his 38.71 beaten only by Reichel..... SJ had a 76 corsi in the 1st backing up the eye test and the game ended up 50/50 in corsi so the Hawks came on but the 1st sunk em.

If Knight stops one of the first two, both he stops 90% of the time, the 1 goal game might have been different.

Aside from passing up the shot on the first PP and looking like a deer in headlights with the goalie pulled at the end of the game, I think Arty looks more comfortable in the NHL than the AHL. Maybe because it's a bit more of a free-for-all down there, or maybe it's just that he's with better players, but he looks more effective and engaged with the Hawks.

He gets shots on net so quickly, once the Hawks find some guys that actually want to go to the net, they'll be a lot more dangerous.
- Chunk

Yea, Artie got discombulated a couple times but other than that never looked outa place.

I do find the narrative going around that Artie is better in the Bigs than the AHL kinda funny. Says the Dman who skates around like he's a 4th forward in jrs, NCAA and AHL. Artie likes to be the guy runnin around but have guys positioned properly for him to work off of.

But conversely Artie does get his head up fast when he gets the puck no matter the zone. He does have a lotta pass first in him but he does need to shoot when he gets good ice in the attack zone. ....... So yea, although Artie might get outa position he is a player who can excel in a structured system if for nothing else his IQ and an ability to pass.

Yea, Artie got discombulated a couple times but other than that never looked outa place.

I do find the narrative going around that Artie is better in the Bigs than the AHL kinda funny. Says the Dman who skates around like he's a 4th forward in jrs, NCAA and AHL. Artie likes to be the guy runnin around but have guys positioned properly for him to work off of.

But conversely Artie does get his head up fast when he gets the puck no matter the zone. He does have a lotta pass first in him but he does need to shoot when he gets good ice in the attack zone. ....... So yea, although Artie might get outa position he is a player who can excel in a structured system if for nothing else his IQ and an ability to pass.
- Mr Ricochet

I'm basing my opinion off of watching him in around 35 games in the AHL vs his two up with the Hawks. In Rockford, he really didn't do a lot of running around just for the sake of it, or because he thought he could. Normally it was when he saw an opening that he thought he could exploit. He's not going in 1-on-3 and trying to put the team on his back.

Give him a couple more games to get comfortable and practice with the team and I think you'll see a lot more shots on goal from him. He averaged almost three shots per game in the A. He loves to let it go and his shot is so quick and heavy that he should be very effective with it. As I mentioned earlier, as soon as they get some guy who can figure out how to get to the front of the net, he'll be a ton more effective.

Lev looked like a fit but had a better game v Rado and was lacking on the PP and looked dumbfounded when Sorensen had him out for a faceoff with the goalie pulled and about 1:20 left....... Looked like a player who hasn't practiced with a team and is playing in a game with them.

He didn't have much of a chance to showcase his skating and or open ice play. Watching SJ this yr I have been impressed with SJ's structure and with them clogging the neutral zone with all 5 players protecting a lead the whole 3rd period there wasn't much ice to exploit.

The corsi was dead even between the teams and Lev had a respectable 48.28% although he and Martinez were on the ice for an ugly 11 shots against and 6 for. Sorensen did not juggle the pairings with all 3 pairs skating 17:00ish minutes together.

The Del Mastro-Murhpy pairing ruled with an 11 shots for and 4 against. Del Mastro it seems puts up nice fancies. He's trending like he always has. Only called up to his WJC team cuz of injury then taking 1st unit opponents and big minutes he goes to RKF, keeps his head down until he again takes big minutes now in the Bigs almost as an after thought and here he goes again playing reliable steady know what your gonna get minutes.

This was the first time the Hawks looked like they did with Jones. Flat, not real hungry, spotty efforts and Bedard was 1st in that line. No surprise looking at the fancies but they backed up the eye test of his 38.71 beaten only by Reichel..... SJ had a 76 corsi in the 1st backing up the eye test and the game ended up 50/50 in corsi so the Hawks came on but the 1st sunk em.

If Knight stops one of the first two, both he stops 90% of the time, the 1 goal game might have been different.
- Mr Ricochet

Don’t blame Bedard. He’s dragging around Dach and Richardinson. Bottom 6 guys. I would be insulted if I was Bedard. Could you imagine Toews or Kane having to drag those two around on a line? Really any player that’s close to a PPG guy having to do what Bedard has to deal with.

I can’t think of one in the NHL that has worse linemates. Sure there might be but not off the top of my head.

At least Lev is up and I can enjoy watching him.

I mean, depends who you are talking about. The vets on the team have been carrying the load a lot lately.

Last quarter season

Donato - 10 G 24 P
Teravainen - 5 G 19 P
Nazar 4 G 12 P
Bedard 4 G 12 P
Mikheyev 6 G 11 P

The top 3 Even Strength point producers in that stretch are Donato, Teravainen and Mikheyev, all vets, who are plus players or almost even.
- breadbag

Not suprised the guys playing together the most are having the most success.

Honestly this seasons Mikheyev > Bertuzzi.

If the Hawks have to trade a player to get a player, maybe they can use Bertuzzi in a deal? Except for one hot stretch of PP goals backdoor, he has been okay, but not that effective.

Bertuzzi is #2 on the team in PP time, but he isn't that great at setting a screen or winning battles, he gets out muscled a lot. He isn't a bad player, but he is IMO slightly below average defensively and just not taking advantage of opportunities for large stretches this season.
- breadbag

The Mik may be our best all around player this season.

Anybody noticed Kane is now in striking distance of a point per game? Last I saw he's at 45 in 55 games.

I'm basing my opinion off of watching him in around 35 games in the AHL vs his two up with the Hawks. In Rockford, he really didn't do a lot of running around just for the sake of it, or because he thought he could. Normally it was when he saw an opening that he thought he could exploit. He's not going in 1-on-3 and trying to put the team on his back.

Give him a couple more games to get comfortable and practice with the team and I think you'll see a lot more shots on goal from him. He averaged almost three shots per game in the A. He loves to let it go and his shot is so quick and heavy that he should be very effective with it. As I mentioned earlier, as soon as they get some guy who can figure out how to get to the front of the net, he'll be a ton more effective.
- Chunk

Chunk, you're my RKF guy. I know you watch em a lot and watch em closely. Love reading Lev played a more structured game than I thought. ......... This is eons too early but in my pickled mind I've moved Artie into my have no real questions about him in my mind after only 2 NHL games.

You never know, and still don't, about Artie but this kid is exceeding my expectations by a bunch. He has all the tools needed to be a damn fine player. Only question is how good.