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wizardofi
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Maple Ridge, BC
Joined: 04.17.2011

Mar 15 @ 9:43 PM ET
I will compare Artie to another right handed Russian defenseman, Sergei Zubov.
- LAHawk


Have the same hairline at least
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Mar 15 @ 9:45 PM ET
So i figured I'd watch a couple of ice hogs games to check in on Korbustsky, he's looking really good from what I'm seeing.

Boy the NHL took its toll on Allan he's still not right

Dieselhead
Location: CA
Joined: 11.01.2011

Mar 15 @ 9:51 PM ET
[quote=LAHawk]I will compare Artie to another right handed Russian defenseman, Nikita Zaitsev

Fixed
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Mar 15 @ 10:05 PM ET
So i figured I'd watch a couple of ice hogs games to check in on Korbustsky, he's looking really good from what I'm seeing.

Boy the NHL took its toll on Allan he's still not right

- BetweenTheDots


Plays timid or different issue?
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Mar 15 @ 10:13 PM ET
Plays timid or different issue?
- I Am The Breadman


Allan looks like he's lost his confidence and when he's indecisive the opponent gets a great scoring chance

Korchinski unfortunately had taken a couple of dumb penalties but other than that he's looked really good the past 2 games, plays really fast and is willing to be physical
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Mar 16 @ 10:06 AM ET
I guess I am the guy best to answer it as I had him going as high as 8th overall in my initial starters.
I did so because when in the various international tourneys (many where he and Martone were out there together), he was really showing high end smarts in every area of those sheets of ice and getting chances.
Spence is not an imposing figure at 6' 1 190, but is a bully, continual agitator, and guy who is going let you know he is in that home plate area.

He simply isn't a big gun offensively, but gives a honest effort at helps you win.

All the players I have before him as he sits in my #23 (Blackhawk's 2nd first) slot are really good skaters, scorers, and have srtong rounded games also.

I wouldn't be surprised him going before slot #23, it is more a matter of who each team sees as the best player long term.
Is he going to show a strong potential to improve and be a factor / impact NHLer, b/c the scouts will gravitate towards the kids with the highest ceiling at 18.

- wiz1901

Thanks Wiz. Can I ask your overall perception of Nesbit? I see you have him falling out of the 1st and he's having a strong season as a PPG player on Windsor with size. He's all over the draft rankings ranging from #16-#58 and curious what you see when he plays?
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Mar 16 @ 10:23 AM ET
Thanks Wiz. Can I ask your overall perception of Nesbit? I see you have him falling out of the 1st and he's having a strong season as a PPG player on Windsor with size. He's all over the draft rankings ranging from #16-#58 and curious what you see when he plays?
- Assman22

https://search.app/SzF1UttqiiXdscez8
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Mar 16 @ 11:41 AM ET
https://search.app/SzF1UttqiiXdscez8
- paulr

Sounds like a project with some good tools, could be worth taking a chance with Toronto’s pick, or Hawks second round pick if he’s still there. I’ll have to search for some clips. I know that they gave up six goals last night, but I thought that Levs, Vlasic, Murphy, and Kaiser had good games. The forwards need to play better defense and help get the puck out of their zone, and this wasn’t Soda’s best game, however it wasn’t all on him.
35Tony0
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Springfield, IL
Joined: 05.10.2015

Mar 16 @ 1:09 PM ET
4-2-4-4-4
Bedard was handed a 10 minute misconduct for a 2nd game in a row.
Blackhawks lost 6-2.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Mar 16 @ 1:43 PM ET
4-2-4-4-4
Bedard was handed a 10 minute misconduct for a 2nd game in a row.
Blackhawks lost 6-2.

- 35Tony0

Bedard is the second most penalized Blackhawk. Most of his penalties are for lazy stick work. That’s something he’s going to have eliminate from his game. He needs to understand how to play better positionally and technically. This is why staying in junior and then playing in the minors is so important. Very few players, even the best ones are ready to play in the NHL as teenagers.
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Mar 16 @ 1:50 PM ET
Sounds like a project with some good tools, could be worth taking a chance with Toronto’s pick, or Hawks second round pick if he’s still there. I’ll have to search for some clips. I know that they gave up six goals last night, but I thought that Levs, Vlasic, Murphy, and Kaiser had good games. The forwards need to play better defense and help get the puck out of their zone, and this wasn’t Soda’s best game, however it wasn’t all on him.
- Angotti


Van's first 4 goals were all post and in. That's pretty good sniping. I don't fault the goalie.

I see what most here are talking about with regards to Levshunov's passing. Especially under pressure his passes are mostly tape to tape. I also think you're right about the other D men as stated in your post.

On the other hand, Mr. Ricochet has referred to quick twitch muscles and I believe him when he says that that's a good thing. But it takes more than that. Reichel has size and is quick, but I see a guy that has no hands, no IQ and only selective moments of high effort. TT is quick and has some IQ but no stones. He's not going to be a difference maker if they ever make the playoffs. So I don't see TT as much of an example for the young forwards that will eventually be coming up. I know Bedard is on an island so to speak, but If I ever see him try to go one on five again I'm going to puke. Not all his fault cuz I imagine he's thinking what else can I do. But he seems most comfortable playing like a junior, and this ain't juniors. They need to get him some support soon or I'm thinking he won't want to sign here and be here any longer than he has to. How do the hawks get better much quicker? Trade Bedard for a huge haul before he comes out and says he won't re-sign here.




Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Mar 16 @ 3:05 PM ET
Van's first 4 goals were all post and in. That's pretty good sniping. I don't fault the goalie.

I see what most here are talking about with regards to Levshunov's passing. Especially under pressure his passes are mostly tape to tape. I also think you're right about the other D men as stated in your post.

On the other hand, Mr. Ricochet has referred to quick twitch muscles and I believe him when he says that that's a good thing. But it takes more than that. Reichel has size and is quick, but I see a guy that has no hands, no IQ and only selective moments of high effort. TT is quick and has some IQ but no stones. He's not going to be a difference maker if they ever make the playoffs. So I don't see TT as much of an example for the young forwards that will eventually be coming up. I know Bedard is on an island so to speak, but If I ever see him try to go one on five again I'm going to puke. Not all his fault cuz I imagine he's thinking what else can I do. But he seems most comfortable playing like a junior, and this ain't juniors. They need to get him some support soon or I'm thinking he won't want to sign here and be here any longer than he has to. How do the hawks get better much quicker? Trade Bedard for a huge haul before he comes out and says he won't re-sign here.

- 6628


Well he sure as hell isn’t going anywhere before he’s done being an RFA.

We need to stop with the Bedard doesn’t want to be here poop. For one, he’s part of the problem. If he starts playing a more disciplined game then he can help the fortunes of the team. True there hasn’t been a ton of help, but the most effective line on the team since returning from the break is the Donato line.

I like Nazar and Bedard together, but they need someone to calm that line down. Dach is not a great option. As much as I bag on him for being ancient Foligno wouldn’t be a bad match with them - if they aren’t going to use Bertuzzi there. Foligno always seems to get Bedard back to basics and has good enough hands to help create chances.

It’s making the best of a crap situation for the rest of the year. A couple more kids will come up (James most likely as UMD is now finished).
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Mar 16 @ 3:59 PM ET
Well he sure as hell isn’t going anywhere before he’s done being an RFA.

We need to stop with the Bedard doesn’t want to be here poop. For one, he’s part of the problem. If he starts playing a more disciplined game then he can help the fortunes of the team. True there hasn’t been a ton of help, but the most effective line on the team since returning from the break is the Donato line.

I like Nazar and Bedard together, but they need someone to calm that line down. Dach is not a great option. As much as I bag on him for being ancient Foligno wouldn’t be a bad match with them - if they aren’t going to use Bertuzzi there. Foligno always seems to get Bedard back to basics and has good enough hands to help create chances.

It’s making the best of a crap situation for the rest of the year. A couple more kids will come up (James most likely as UMD is now finished).

- Chunk



The next coach needs to not just identify what is wrong, but know how to fix it. Obviously changing the lines each game (which nothing LR and Sorenson thought was the solution) isn’t it.
bhawk1s
Joined: 06.27.2014

Mar 16 @ 4:27 PM ET
4-2-4-4-4
Bedard was handed a 10 minute misconduct for a 2nd game in a row.
Blackhawks lost 6-2.

- 35Tony0


Connor has a shot at leading the team in goals, assists and PIM this year....🤔
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Mar 16 @ 4:56 PM ET
I'm thinking this is Elbows

https://www.hawksinsider....-overall-pick-per-insider


This is great all the speculation aka crap coming out.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Mar 16 @ 5:22 PM ET
Watching the Avs I'm really hoping in 2 to 3 years we start seeing guys come up that can play at that speed, skating circles around the stars
Dieselhead
Location: CA
Joined: 11.01.2011

Mar 16 @ 6:41 PM ET
Bedard is the second most penalized Blackhawk. Most of his penalties are for lazy stick work. That’s something he’s going to have eliminate from his game. He needs to understand how to play better positionally and technically. This is why staying in junior and then playing in the minors is so important. Very few players, even the best ones are ready to play in the NHL as teenagers.
- paulr


Spot on. I just hope the Hawks aren't pulling an Oil and ruining the kid. Right now, I prefer Nazar's game to Bedard's.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Mar 16 @ 7:19 PM ET
Spot on. I just hope the Hawks aren't pulling an Oil and ruining the kid. Right now, I prefer Nazar's game to Bedard's.
- Dieselhead

I preferred Toews over Kane because I liked his two way game. But Kane was a game breaking scorer. Nazar plays a decent two way game already but down the road Bedard will (hopefully) be the gamebreaking scorer.
SC116
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 08.29.2015

Mar 17 @ 12:40 AM ET
Because there's nothing else going on today ... Seth with a -3 today ... showing he's the same player for a playoff team as he was for a lottery team.

HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Mar 17 @ 8:17 AM ET
Because there's nothing else going on today ... Seth with a -3 today ... showing he's the same player for a playoff team as he was for a lottery team.
- SC116


Attaboy Seth!

Will be interesting to see if he has any effect on that team.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Mar 17 @ 9:02 AM ET
The next coach needs to not just identify what is wrong, but know how to fix it. Obviously changing the lines each game (which nothing LR and Sorenson thought was the solution) isn’t it.
- LAHawk


One of the things that I think is wrong is it seems like Bedard is more interested in "beating the goalie" than just scoring. Outside of the very rare out-timer, how often does Bedard get a quick shot off. He virtually always takes an extra second, makes an extra move, holds the puck before taking his shot. It's like he wants the goalie to see it and then beat him. These aren't CHL goalies he trying to beat though (nor CHL defenses). I'm sure some of it is linemates, but he needs to have more of a volume mentality to shots.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Mar 17 @ 10:10 AM ET
One of the things that I think is wrong is it seems like Bedard is more interested in "beating the goalie" than just scoring. Outside of the very rare out-timer, how often does Bedard get a quick shot off. He virtually always takes an extra second, makes an extra move, holds the puck before taking his shot. It's like he wants the goalie to see it and then beat him. These aren't CHL goalies he trying to beat though (nor CHL defenses). I'm sure some of it is linemates, but he needs to have more of a volume mentality to shots.
- Chunk


Well you know my theory, and everyone thinks I'm full of sh!t, but it's really hard to get a one timer off when you are playing with a noodle of a stick.

Even when he had a give and go and it came back to him point blank, as he flexed his stick for a wrister it looked to me like the blade of the stick actually popped off the ice and ended up on top of the puck.

Any time i see him try a one timer he's like a golfer and hits it fat, speaking of golf there is a reason you need to know your swing speed and get the correct flex in the shaft, he looks like some kid using grandpas golf clubs who can generate a club head speed of 110mph
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Mar 17 @ 10:39 AM ET
Well you know my theory, and everyone thinks I'm full of sh!t, but it's really hard to get a one timer off when you are playing with a noodle of a stick.

Even when he had a give and go and it came back to him point blank, as he flexed his stick for a wrister it looked to me like the blade of the stick actually popped off the ice and ended up on top of the puck.

Any time i see him try a one timer he's like a golfer and hits it fat

- BetweenTheDots


You could very well be onto something, but I think that's the least of his worries. How often does he even take that shot? It's kind of the problem that I'm highlighting here. Very few of his shots are with the goalie moving.

I'm praying that Lardis is able to adapt his game to the NHL because so many of his shots are quick and direct instead of complicated.

Ultimately, I don't think it will be that big of a problem. Bedard will eventually grow into a point monster. He needs help and to adapt more to NHL level opponents.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Mar 17 @ 10:44 AM ET
You could very well be onto something, but I think that's the least of his worries. How often does he even take that shot? It's kind of the problem that I'm highlighting here. Very few of his shots are with the goalie moving.

I'm praying that Lardis is able to adapt his game to the NHL because so many of his shots are quick and direct instead of complicated.

Ultimately, I don't think it will be that big of a problem. Bedard will eventually grow into a point monster. He needs help and to adapt more to NHL level opponents.

- Chunk


I guess what I'm trying to say is the reason he doesn't take that shot is because he doesn't have the confidence to do so. I was going to bring up Lardis and glad you did, you watch his shots especially the one timers I'm sure there's some flex but not like 98s and he really does a good job of rifling those off

And now that he is stronger this year compared to last year he's even having a harder time controlling his wrist shots.
Black Raven
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: UT
Joined: 01.12.2019

Mar 17 @ 10:52 AM ET
Bedard is the second most penalized Blackhawk. Most of his penalties are for lazy stick work. That’s something he’s going to have eliminate from his game. He needs to understand how to play better positionally and technically. This is why staying in junior and then playing in the minors is so important. Very few players, even the best ones are ready to play in the NHL as teenagers.
- paulr


I honestly think he is dinged up. He appears to have no jump anymore. He hasn't ever been the fastest in a straight line but he is/was quick side to side and fast acceleration, that seems to be gone now. That is another reason he is getting so many stick penalties, he can't skate with them and then just reaches.
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