Yes but in Steve's world and apparently some other posters, there will always be something to female dog about.
- HawkintheD

We flipped a coin on Sunday and went to the Hawks game over the Ice Hogs game in Rosemont. We decided to roll the dice and see what we could do at the box office. I asked for 100 level seats across from the benches and the guy told me $350 per ticket. My kid said "hang on." He went on his phone to Vivid or some other site and found 2-100 level seats 2nd row from the top behind the net the Hawks shoot at twice for $118 total. Can you imagine a fan paying $700 for 2 seats and watching that game?

Davidson is the problem. He is over his head. Richardson may turn out to be a good coach eventually, but probably better suited as an assistant.

Not cloud 9 at the expense of a guy who lost his job. Too bad for him he didn't get a 3 year extension like Granato. I have to wonder if they reached out to him and if he would take the job knowing there are 4 years of losing ahead of him.

They looked terrible against Columbus. I unfortunately was at that one and I saw Wirtz sitting in owner's box. The too many men penalty last night against Boston was not a good look.

I think Davidson will probably get another draft but would not surprise me to see Holland or some other long time NHL guy come in and take over at the end of the season.
- stevefrmglencoe

I don't disagree.

You have a very HUGE asset in Bedard but he's 19. He also has ZERO help around him and to expect this kid to carry a line at 19 is not fair. He doesn't have the Toews or kane that each had a young age OR even Sharp OR Marty Havlat. He has a broken down Taylor Hall, a disengaged Teuvo, and whatever the hell Bertuzzi is because effort and speed aren't there for 59.

With how deep their prospect pool is on D we all best pray that the big raw D kid down in Rockford HITS because the kid in Philly looks pretty damn good. Not saying he's a bust but adding to a deep pool where you are somewhat thin at F doesnt' make sense to me.

Davidson desperately needs to find 98 a LEGIT top line player and soon. With the Rangers looking to make a major move and Vancouver possibly shopping Miller....why not make the call? I mean what is the plan for 98 to have that player this year or even next year because I dont see it on the roster NOW or in the system being NHL ready

Next question is who are they going to bring in? King is definitely not the guy... Wait until Laviolette gets the axe in NY? Gallant? Boudreau? Hakstol?

Don't worry, they won't hire a good coach yet, you must be on cloud 9


You were right, LR was the problem evidently
- vabeachbear

Steve from Glencoe will be happy. If they don't play a more wide open game nothing will change.

Frieman aid plan is for Sorenson to finish out the year, then they would cconduct a search for a head coach.

The JC firing, bring Derrek King from Rockford to finish the year plan.

Wonder how many mercenary vets are begging to leave right now?

I get they've not won games but his assistant GM literally said "where the goals gonna come from" and that's been their biggest issue.

I suppose they had to do something but wow. Wonder what their expectations actually are and who could possibly fix that?
- fattybeef

Not being the worst team in the league is likely a start.....

I thought high 70s-low 80s point wise should have been realistic. Part of that is on Davidson but like all GMs he fired his coach to buy himself a little more time.

The timing is odd.....missed a chance to get Montgomery. Have to think this decision wasn't just made in the last week, but again...nobody here knows that for sure.

If the Hawks and Hogs play essentially the same game, did we really get an upgrade? KFC is as much to blame as Luke. You can't win if you don't score. When they lost the game last night, my first thought was Luke Richardson wasn't long for Hawk world. I wonder if he will be the only coach to go.

And didn't KFC laugh when someone asked if Luke could be fired?

Frieman aid plan is for Sorenson to finish out the year, then they would cconduct a search for a head coach.

The JC firing, bring Derrek King from Rockford to finish the year plan.

Wonder how many mercenary vets are begging to leave right now?
- LAHawk

Ugh. That's terrible.

I get they've not won games but his assistant GM literally said "where the goals gonna come from" and that's been their biggest issue.

I suppose they had to do something but wow. Wonder what their expectations actually are and who could possibly fix that?
- fattybeef

I don't get the feeling there were any significant expectations.
Has there been anyone in the Media that has said one thing about Richardson's coaching that wasn't positive? The few people I know that care about the Hawks really had no opinion about Richardson one way or the other. Besides me, I never heard anyone chanting "Fire Richardson" in the UC. Lots of rabid fans on this board have be arguing about how good a job he did. I wonder who fired him?

Frieman aid plan is for Sorenson to finish out the year, then they would cconduct a search for a head coach.

The JC firing, bring Derrek King from Rockford to finish the year plan.

Wonder how many mercenary vets are begging to leave right now?
- LAHawk

Fair ask....lot of veterans in that room so they should get the firing coach bump here and win a few games....one would hope.

I mean I think the plan would have been even at high 70s low 80s point totals to move on from a few of these vets assuming you could get draft capital OR almost NHL ready assets back, right?

Again, timing is just odd.......one thing to suck when you are intentionally try to suck, but Wirtz allowed KD to spend some money and can't expect fans to keep dolling out $$ to watch another top 3 drafting team year after year.....

Not being the worst team in the league is likely a start.....

I thought high 70s-low 80s point wise should have been realistic. Part of that is on Davidson but like all GMs he fired his coach to buy himself a little more time.

The timing is odd.....missed a chance to get Montgomery. Have to think this decision wasn't just made in the last week, but again...nobody here knows that for sure.
- SteveRain

Lol yeah I know but they can't score over 2 goals per game. Not sure how another coach fixes that? I thought they were at least going to give him some more toys. It's not Luke's fault Kurashev sucks and Bertuzzi falls down all the time.

We'll see I guess. Maybe they at least load up one line.

Lol yeah I know but they can't score over 2 goals per game. Not sure how another coach fixes that? I thought they were at least going to give him some more toys. It's not Luke's fault Kurashev sucks and Bertuzzi falls down all the time.

We'll see I guess. Maybe they at least load up one line.
- fattybeef

Oh I don't disagree. KD has a LOT of ownership in this. That Bertuzzi signing is looking brutal by the game. 1-2 seconds late to everything and then falls face down but at least his turtle neck looks fantastic.....

Like all bad teams, they have too many guys playing "up" where they shouldn't be. Craig Smith, Maroon, Alec Martinez on PP2 is a prime example.

Teuvo also is far too timid. Dude passes up prime scoring chances game by game and then tells the media his confidence is down...NO $hit....how about shooting when you're in prime spots instead of trying to make plays like you're up 7-1 and have 3-4 pts in the bank that night?

Next question is who are they going to bring in? King is definitely not the guy... Wait until Laviolette gets the axe in NY? Gallant? Boudreau? Hakstol?
- Popsghostly

Gallant's shelf life is less than two years and probably not suited to a lot of young players coming through.

We flipped a coin on Sunday and went to the Hawks game over the Ice Hogs game in Rosemont. We decided to roll the dice and see what we could do at the box office. I asked for 100 level seats across from the benches and the guy told me $350 per ticket. My kid said "hang on." He went on his phone to Vivid or some other site and found 2-100 level seats 2nd row from the top behind the net the Hawks shoot at twice for $118 total. Can you imagine a fan paying $700 for 2 seats and watching that game?
- stevefrmglencoe

No but that's the choice you make as a fan right? No one put a gun to your head and was making you buy them. I applaud your kid getting decent tickets at a better value.

Not being the worst team in the league is likely a start.....

I thought high 70s-low 80s point wise should have been realistic. Part of that is on Davidson but like all GMs he fired his coach to buy himself a little more time.

The timing is odd.....missed a chance to get Montgomery. Have to think this decision wasn't just made in the last week, but again...nobody here knows that for sure.
- SteveRain

Timing is odd. Most Hawks and Bulls coaches get fired on Christmas eve.

Gallant's shelf life is less than two years and probably not suited to a lot of young players coming through.
- rpeters01

I think maybe you wait for Bruno to get canned or I think a few orgs have tried to seduce the guy out of one of the Colorado coaches.

Oh I don't disagree. KD has a LOT of ownership in this. That Bertuzzi signing is looking brutal by the game. 1-2 seconds late to everything and then falls face down but at least his turtle neck looks fantastic.....

Like all bad teams, they have too many guys playing "up" where they shouldn't be. Craig Smith, Maroon, Alec Martinez on PP2 is a prime example.

Teuvo also is far too timid. Dude passes up prime scoring chances game by game and then tells the media his confidence is down...NO $hit....how about shooting when you're in prime spots instead of trying to make plays like you're up 7-1 and have 3-4 pts in the bank that night?
- SteveRain

I think this firing has more to do with Bedard, Kurashev and Reichel than any of the FA signings. Maybe AA regressing as well.

Timing is odd. Most Hawks and Bulls coaches get fired on Christmas eve.
- rpeters01

I think this firing has more to do with Bedard, Kurashev and Reichel than any of the FA signings. Maybe AA regressing as well.
- rpeters01

I think you're right....they need to find a coach to develop the young kids until they are "ready to win" and then determine if that said guy is THE guy to take the next step or pivot to the next Q.

I just think KD can't be scott free here.....didn't expect playoffs but didn't expect this start either and so far can't really point to a UFA signing that is a HIT so far...maybe Craig Smith? Rest.....not so much.

When the tear down occurred and the two years of intentional tanking began I was concerned it may cause attendance issues and make ownership lose their appetite for the rebuild. Hopefully next season the team can begin being allot more competitive before Wirtz joins the panic of the fans and has KD making moves that impact Davidson’s strategy.
- paulr

I agree with this 100% and unfortunately your thoughts ended up being prophetic. ...... So it's LR that is the problem? If so the first known chink in KD's plan, the hiring of LR? Or, will it end up it wasn't LR that was the problem.

Does it show KD is succumbing to pressure, doesn't have what it takes to see something thru , doesn't have the political capital to see things thru adversity or he's being a wise pragmatist and simply adjusting to events and fixing wrongs? Does it show us anything good or bad about Danny?...... Who called for LR to be whacked?

I see Danny as a least resistant hates confrontation kind a guy so far. To some degree I'm wrong? ............

Really liked LR's steady hand and path that started with 1,400 NHL games as a no nonsense NHL Dman. I'll miss the guy.

Timing is odd. Most Hawks and Bulls coaches get fired on Christmas eve.
- rpeters01

Great point.

Watching 3 former Hawks named to 4 Nation rosters and another 3 former Hawks in top 20 scoring spots has to bother the owner.

I think this firing has more to do with Bedard, Kurashev and Reichel than any of the FA signings. Maybe AA regressing as well.
- rpeters01

Yeah agree with this too.

Past Guentzel it really wasn't a great UFA class. I liked the TT, Martinez & Brossoit signing but not so much the Bert & Brodie signing.

Hopefully this will spark something.

I agree with this 100% and unfortunately your thoughts ended up being prophetic. ...... So it's LR that is the problem? If so the first known chink in KD's plan, the hiring of LR? Or, will it end up it wasn't LR that was the problem.

Does it show KD is succumbing to pressure, doesn't have what it takes to see something thru , doesn't have the political capital to see things thru adversity or he's being a wise pragmatist and simply adjusting to events and fixing wrongs? Does it show us anything good or bad about Danny?...... Who called for LR to be whacked?

I see Danny as a least resistant hates confrontation kind a guy so far. To some degree I'm wrong? ............

Really liked LR's steady hand and path that started with 1,400 NHL games as a no nonsense NHL Dman. I'll miss the guy.
- Mr Ricochet

He was just a coach. Coaching is a results oriented business. The results at every metric were below average to really bad. They get fired all the time. Not sure why they moved up Sorensen unless they were going to beef up Rockford's staff after this season and Sorensen will be the placemark until they get someone they love for both Head Coaching jobs and boom, Richardson and Sorensen gone for next year.

I think this firing has more to do with Bedard, Kurashev and Reichel than any of the FA signings. Maybe AA regressing as well.
- rpeters01

Yeah Bedard obvi having problems. Kurashev is just not very good and someone had to score last year. I can't believe they banked on him getting 50 points again.

I actually think he's getting a decent amount out of Reichel though the 9-11 mins \ game probably aren't sexy.