CHL players have 9 games to play in the NHL before they need to be sent down to their league as this is using their professional contract. Cowan will not be eligible for the NHL until the Knights end their season as he was sent down.
- AdamFrench

So once they're sent down, regardless of how many of the 9 games they've played, they can't be called back up until their Junior team's season is over?

So once they're sent down, regardless of how many of the 9 games they've played, they can't be called back up until their Junior team's season is over?
- gravyface

Yes. That's why teams do weird things like put players on conditioning stints or scratch them, but keep them on the team/roster. Once you're back to the CHL, you're stuck until it's over. Same with the NCAA etc. Pro leagues like the SHL/K/liiga can loan players back, but that's pretty rare.

Also I should have mentioned that he could be called up on an Emergency Basis, but that would be highly circumstantial and would be like how Cush could be signed to play goalie for one game because Stolarz and Woll died in the hallway as they were entering the building and he was standing there in the stands.

Sandin +18

Also……
Woll leading NHL in GAA

🖕

Sandin +18

Also……
Woll leading NHL in GAA

🖕
- mr.sir

I don't miss Sandin one bit. Or Lillybust. Timmins is a more complete player and can actually get shots through at the point.

I don't miss Sandin one bit. Or Lillybust. Timmins is a more complete player and can actually get shots through at the point.
- gravyface

I'm glad Timmins got his chance this season.

Always liked what I saw from him. He's not a top 4 defenseman but he's a good third pairing guy that can move the puck well and has a decent shot imho.

I don't miss Sandin one bit. Or Lillybust. Timmins is a more complete player and can actually get shots through at the point.
- gravyface

I don’t miss Sandin or Lily either, but Timmins is a defensive liability (and the penalties) 🙄. He will come back to reality soon.

Benoit Hakanpaa 3rd pair please

I would take a shot at Jiricek

Robertson?

I would take a shot at Jiricek

Robertson?
- mr.sir

Robertson and....?

I don't miss Sandin one bit. Or Lillybust. Timmins is a more complete player and can actually get shots through at the point.
- gravyface

Justin Bourne had a piece on Timmins about a year or year and a half ago. I was trying to find it, but I can't recall if it was on Sportsnet or the Athletic - and a quick Google search didn't find it.

In it he highlights how Timmins' defensive style works well and most of it had to do with how well he identified and closed gaps better than most of the Leafs' other defenders. His gap management, active stick and intelligent reads were things that could set him apart - but he was having puck problems at the time (if you'll recall early days with the Leafs, the puck would skip off his stick, or he'd flub an outlet pass or what-have-you) and Keefe would just go back to benching him. Early Timmins had a lot of confidence and played aggressively at gap management. Later Timmins, under Keefe, was nowhere near as aggressive, had lost that confidence and was no longer as effective as teams were given easy access to the blueline.

He's not elite by any stretch of the imagination, but he has the tools and the ability to be a realistic top-4 option as long as you can supply him with a little sandpaper on the left side.

Yes. That's why teams do weird things like put players on conditioning stints or scratch them, but keep them on the team/roster. Once you're back to the CHL, you're stuck until it's over. Same with the NCAA etc. Pro leagues like the SHL/K/liiga can loan players back, but that's pretty rare.

Also I should have mentioned that he could be called up on an Emergency Basis, but that would be highly circumstantial and would be like how Cush could be signed to play goalie for one game because Stolarz and Woll died in the hallway as they were entering the building and he was standing there in the stands.
- AdamFrench

https://www.theglobeandma...-up-kadri/article1364834/

Basically marlies would have to be to far away and leafs would be at home and have late scratches and bring up Cowan.

Justin Bourne had a piece on Timmins about a year or year and a half ago. I was trying to find it, but I can't recall if it was on Sportsnet or the Athletic - and a quick Google search didn't find it.

In it he highlights how Timmins' defensive style works well and most of it had to do with how well he identified and closed gaps better than most of the Leafs' other defenders. His gap management, active stick and intelligent reads were things that could set him apart - but he was having puck problems at the time (if you'll recall early days with the Leafs, the puck would skip off his stick, or he'd flub an outlet pass or what-have-you) and Keefe would just go back to benching him. Early Timmins had a lot of confidence and played aggressively at gap management. Later Timmins, under Keefe, was nowhere near as aggressive, had lost that confidence and was no longer as effective as teams were given easy access to the blueline.

He's not elite by any stretch of the imagination, but he has the tools and the ability to be a realistic top-4 option as long as you can supply him with a little sandpaper on the left side.
- Monkeypunk

I agree with everything you said except the bolded.

I think if Timmins is playing in your top 4, your defense isn't good enough.

He's better suited to be the puck mover on the third pair on a good team imho.

CHL players have 9 games to play in the NHL before they need to be sent down to their league as this is using their professional contract. Cowan will not be eligible for the NHL until the Knights end their season as he was sent down.
- AdamFrench

And there you have it!
I figured it was something like that.

When tariffs work as a negotiating tool and it revitalizes US production for existing product(which is what he’s proposing) will you be ok with it? Or even admit to the positive effect it has on the US economy?

I mean it’s already working in regards to our southern border and the guy isn’t even in office yet.
- Cptmjl

I'm never afraid to admit when I am wrong and frequently do. I'm awaiting results before passing judgement, but I'm not terribly optimistic.

Sandin +18

Also……
Woll leading NHL in GAA

🖕
- mr.sir

I doesnt seem like anyone misses Sandin, I know I dont....also +/- as a relevant individual stat? Meh.

But good to see woll doing well in the 7 games that he has played and managed to stay healthy for.

Our tandem looks good so far.

Hopefully the stats are similar come May.

Justin Bourne had a piece on Timmins about a year or year and a half ago. I was trying to find it, but I can't recall if it was on Sportsnet or the Athletic - and a quick Google search didn't find it.

In it he highlights how Timmins' defensive style works well and most of it had to do with how well he identified and closed gaps better than most of the Leafs' other defenders. His gap management, active stick and intelligent reads were things that could set him apart - but he was having puck problems at the time (if you'll recall early days with the Leafs, the puck would skip off his stick, or he'd flub an outlet pass or what-have-you) and Keefe would just go back to benching him. Early Timmins had a lot of confidence and played aggressively at gap management. Later Timmins, under Keefe, was nowhere near as aggressive, had lost that confidence and was no longer as effective as teams were given easy access to the blueline.

He's not elite by any stretch of the imagination, but he has the tools and the ability to be a realistic top-4 option as long as you can supply him with a little sandpaper on the left side.
- Monkeypunk

As a 3rd pairing D for $1m I think he's been fine....not sure if he's top 4 material yet...maybe in a pinch for game or two?

The last 10 games were fun

But the dam broke, need bodies back Saturday

I agree with everything you said except the bolded.

I think if Timmins is playing in your top 4, your defense isn't good enough.

He's better suited to be the puck mover on the third pair on a good team imho.
- Scabeh

Here's my point, if you will - Timmins is 26, so at this point there's a lot of wysiwyg with him - or at least should be by standard hockey development and progression expectations.

He missed a season following junior due to concussion-related symptoms, had a knee injury completely derail his 2021-22 season after just 6 games, and then a series of other, smaller, injuries have interfered with his ability to establish a consistent presence in the NHL.

That is not intended to excuse anything - but it is intended to note that he has never played more than 31 games in an NHL season but has more than tweener abilities and has never been given the opportunity to develop and attune his game to the NHL due to a lack of consistent playing time.

He skates well, moves the puck well, has good vision, closes gaps well, closes quickly at the blueline to prevent zone entry, recovers the puck well and moves it to a partner effectively. He reads plays well prior to and as they develop - evidenced by how rarely he is caught in the offensive zone, despite many pinches or deeper offensive forays. I'd say he's above average at 1-on-1 coverage. He does not win enough board battles or provide good enough net front coverage despite having a relatively decent frame (6'2 / 202).

As a puck moving defenseman, on a team that had an adequate physical left-side defenseman, I think Timmins would be just fine in a top-4 role, because he processes the game quickly enough and his style is designed to intercept the zone entry or force the puck to be moved - which a stronger left-side counterpart can intercede with and Timmins can provide zone exit support.

Now it's working great on the third pair and I don't know if it would work well on a second pairing _today_, but I feel that his skills translate well enough that with some more physicality added to his game - which I think, developmentally, he has time to add - would mean that he could be a decent top-4 option.

I suppose one way of looking at what I'm suggesting: I think Timmins has the foundational tools to be as good as Brodie was defensively and better offensively. That may be where the disagreement can occur. If you don't think he's getting any better and this is it, then yeah - he's a third pairing guy. If you believe there's time for him to grow more, then I'm of the opinion Brodie-esque is not out of the question.

I blame the blog title for this loss. All that French crap put the Habs stink on us. Next thing you know were gonna have a ton of awesomest prospects that develop into..meh players. Even though we haven't drafted in the first round in over 92 years

From CJ

JT and leafs are in talks, JT has no interest in testing FA.

JT camp coming in at Girouxs number, Leafs at 5-6M. Deferred salary talk in the deal.


From Kipper

Teams around the league really value Leafs goalie depth beyond Woll and Stolie. Leafs are open to moving one.

You keep licking windows!!
- .HOHO.

So tolerant.

From CJ

JT and leafs are in talks, JT has no interest in testing FA.

JT camp coming in at Girouxs number, Leafs at 5-6M.


From Kipper

Teams around the league really value Leafs goalie depth beyond Woll and Stolie. Leafs are open to moving one.
- Santo_44

5 mil would be fine imo.
keep JT until he retires. hes still providing value. and 5 mil will be not a lot very soon

5 mil would be fine imo.
keep JT until he retires. hes still providing value. and 5 mil will be not a lot very soon
- senstroll

Also forgot to say there will be deferred salary in the deal most likely per CJ

From CJ

JT and leafs are in talks, JT has no interest in testing FA.

JT camp coming in at Girouxs number, Leafs at 5-6M.


From Kipper

Teams around the league really value Leafs goalie depth beyond Woll and Stolie. Leafs are open to moving one.
- Santo_44

God bless CJ.....now, who is CJ?

God bless CJ.....now, who is CJ?
- systemtool

Chris Johnston. One of the legit insiders.

Chris Johnston. One of the legit insiders.
- Santo_44

poop. That was so obvious idk how the (frank) I missed that. I worked a rare night job last night, please allow me to blame lack of sleep on this one, el Santo. Brilliant news.