Guy Boucher took a job in Russia. Looks like he's safe
- mr.peanut

good, as long as he stays the (frank) away from the habs.

the only reason I'd want him fired right now is because I'm already tired of the "he should be fired" talk, might as well get it over with now, bring on Michel Therrien again.
- Pat1993

As I said from almost day 1... he needed a real veteran coach to mentor him / help him develop as a head coach.

Still boggles my mind we are here 3 years later and everyone pretty much agrees... except HuGo and MSL, apparently.

3, almost 3
- fidopro

What moves did the GM do to help his coach? Newhook? Dach? Laine? Barron? Not a lot of sucess so far on that front either, just saying

Sure you can fire the coach, but what if the team keeps sucking after that? Who do you blame then?

As I said from almost day 1... he needed a real veteran coach to mentor him / help him develop as a head coach.

Still boggles my mind we are here 3 years later and everyone pretty much agrees... except HuGo and MSL, apparently.
- Mashadar

well, maybe they've changed their minds on this, but hiring people in the middle of the regular season might not always be that easy...

the only reason I'd want him fired right now is because I'm already tired of the "he should be fired" talk, might as well get it over with now, bring on Michel Therrien again.
- Pat1993

I think he's safe for now.
if they finish the season 2nd to last... HuGo will have to make a tough decision.
you cannot set the bar at: we want to be in the mix, and finish 31st. someone will have to pay.

What moves did the GM do to help his coach? Newhook? Dach? Laine? Barron? Not a lot of sucess so far on that front either, just saying

Sure you can fire the coach, but what if the team keeps sucking after that? Who do you blame then?
- deadpoulet

I think there's a big part of people saying they're patient and willing to go through learning pains, while they actually aren't.

well, maybe they've changed their minds on this, but hiring people in the middle of the regular season might not always be that easy...
- Pat1993

Shoulda been done after year 1, especially when Richardson left. And last summer....

Not really a new observation.

I think he's safe for now.
if they finished the season 2nd to last... HuGo will have to make a tough decision.
you cannot set the bar at: we want to be in the mix, and finish 31st. someone will have to pay.
- fidopro

yeah, I disagree on that part, things didn't go as planned, doesn't mean someone absolutely needs to get fired, this is a rebuild. but it's also in MTL, where people always want results right (frank)ing now.

Shoulda been done after year 1, especially when Richardson left. And last summer....

Not really a new observation.
- Mashadar

can't disagree with that, I've been among those who were suggesting they should bring in some experience from day 1.

I think they're a big part of people saying they're patient and willing to go through learning pains, while they actually aren't.
- Pat1993

it's easy to be patient when you see improvement.
when you don't... people tend to be less patient yes.
let see how they finish the season, plenty of hockey to be played.

it's easy to be patient when you see improvement.
when you don't... people tend to be less patient yes.
let see how they finish the season, plenty of hockey to be played.
- fidopro

improvement isn't always linear, but yeah we'll see.

yeah, I disagree on that part, things didn't go as planned, doesn't mean someone absolutely needs to get fired, this is a rebuild. but it's also in MTL, where people always want results right (frank)ing now.
- Pat1993

so no accountability? gotcha.
like for the players. great team culture.

so no accountability? gotcha.
like for the players. great team culture.
- fidopro

holy poop dude, nevermind.

I think they're a big part of people saying they're patient and willing to go through learning pains, while they actually aren't.
- Pat1993

Maybe, but maybe fans expected the team to be better at this point and not see a regress. Molson and co set the bar as to be in the mix and I think I have to agree with Fido here, Saint-Louis may have to pay the price. But others will feel the pressure if things dont get better after that

Maybe, but maybe fans expected the team to be better at this point and not see a regress. Molson and co set the bar as to be in the mix and I think I have to agree with Fido here, Saint-Louis may have to pay the price. But others will feel the pressure if things dont get better after that
- deadpoulet

I did not think they would be much better than they currently are, at least points wise.

I am just tired of the same mistakes over and over.

(frank)ing depressing.

At least CC will score about 40 goals....

I did not think they would be much better than they currently are, at least points wise.

I am just tired of the same mistakes over and over.

(frank)ing depressing.

At least CC will score about 40 goals....
- Mashadar

on pace for 55

Maybe, but maybe fans expected the team to be better at this point and not see a regress. Molson and co set the bar as to be in the mix and I think I have to agree with Fido here, Saint-Louis may have to pay the price. But others will feel the pressure if things dont get better after that
- deadpoulet

it's MTL, there's always pressure on everyone anyways lol

on pace for 55
- fidopro

and won't make team USA.

it's MTL, there's always pressure on everyone anyways lol
- Pat1993

not a lot of pressure in the last few years, there was no expectations other than maybe Slaf and then again

not a lot of pressure in the last few years, there was no expectations other than maybe Slaf and then again
- deadpoulet

meh, people have been complaining all the way

meh, people have been complaining all the way

- Pat1993

that's what we do best.
and btw, it may not be the coach who will pay. could be the players.
but it's always easier to fire 1 guy.

and won't make team USA.



- Mashadar

really?

Weird how individual criticism is always brushed off and saddled with an excuse, like "the team sucks, what do you expect?" Well isn't the bad team composed of all those people who can't be blamed?

Cause at some point you have to look somewhere to initiate improvement, because the NHL is not a development league

Weird how individual criticism is always brushed off and saddled with an excuse, like "the team sucks, what do you expect?" Well isn't the bad team composed of all those people who can't be blamed?

Cause at some point you have to look somewhere to initiate improvement, because the NHL is not a development league
- mr.peanut

I agree he may pay the price at some point, but I always think its easier to fire the coach then to trade the whole team. Would say the same about Boston or Toronto

show me a good team and I will show you a good coach.

Weird how individual criticism is always brushed off and saddled with an excuse, like "the team sucks, what do you expect?" Well isn't the bad team composed of all those people who can't be blamed?

Cause at some point you have to look somewhere to initiate improvement, because the NHL is not a development league
- mr.peanut

I find that's an empty blanket statement, a lot of guys continue developing their skills at the NHL level, it's just that it's usually elite talent players that are able to do it, like Hutson for example.