JimmyP
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Location: Snow has melted! Joined: 02.12.2011
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There are some next-level idiots on Twitter/X who are hanging the seasons issues in Sorokin. One guy, masquerading as a TV psychiatrist, routinely blames him for every goal because from his sofa it was most certainly stopable.
I don't think Dominik Hasek would have a good save percentage on this team. - keaner17
Sorokin is the least of the problems. I wouldn't blame him if he approved a trade request.
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nyisles7
New York Islanders |
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Location: Wrong timing, NY Joined: 01.20.2009
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There are some next-level idiots on Twitter/X who are hanging the seasons issues in Sorokin. One guy, masquerading as a TV psychiatrist, routinely blames him for every goal because from his sofa it was most certainly stopable.
I don't think Dominik Hasek would have a good save percentage on this team. - keaner17
Just on Twitter/X ???
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ses111
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 06.07.2008
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There are some next-level idiots on Twitter/X who are hanging the seasons issues in Sorokin. One guy, masquerading as a TV psychiatrist, routinely blames him for every goal because from his sofa it was most certainly stopable.
I don't think Dominik Hasek would have a good save percentage on this team. - keaner17
Sorokin is one of the few good things about the team. |
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Cptmjl
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 11.05.2011
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Sorokin is one of the few good things about the team. - ses111
Agreed, shame his prime years will more then likely be wasted. |
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keaner17
New York Islanders |
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Location: Prepared for the worst Joined: 07.12.2007
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Good point on the flat after a win angle.
I don’t have an answer for you or Mr Flair.
One thing is the inconsistency shift to shift period to period, game to game is maddening.
I like Roy and because of his years of gutsy competitiveness you would think he demands the same out of his team. - nyisles7
While I think this team is severely talent-deficient, I think our biggest issue continues to be psychological and may not be something they can be coached out of. |
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keaner17
New York Islanders |
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Location: Prepared for the worst Joined: 07.12.2007
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Sorokin is the least of the problems. I wouldn't blame him if he approved a trade request. - JimmyP
A less mild-mannered goalie may have skated to the bench and demanded a trade |
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JimmyP
New York Islanders |
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Location: Snow has melted! Joined: 02.12.2011
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While I think this team is severely talent-deficient, I think our biggest issue continues to be psychological and may not be something they can be coached out of. - keaner17
That means cleaning house. How else could you solve it?
They played better under Trotz. Yes, they were younger but they played better and the effort was there.
I'm not blaming Roy, I think it is a talent issue.
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JimmyP
New York Islanders |
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Location: Snow has melted! Joined: 02.12.2011
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A less mild-mannered goalie may have skated to the bench and demanded a trade - keaner17
I was surprised that Roy didn't pull him. Who knows what went on behind the scenes.
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Cptmjl
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 11.05.2011
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That means cleaning house. How else could you solve it?
They played better under Trotz. Yes, they were younger but they played better and the effort was there.
I'm not blaming Roy, I think it is a talent issue. - JimmyP
Lack of talent, age, not enough young talent, slow, too comfortable. At this point you could probably add culture but that’s more me making a guess at what I’m seeing. |
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nyisles7
New York Islanders |
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Location: Wrong timing, NY Joined: 01.20.2009
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While I think this team is severely talent-deficient, I think our biggest issue continues to be psychological and may not be something they can be coached out of. - keaner17
Meh most are NHL talented players. Barzal, Nelly, Bo etc.
why are the Rags sucking ass? Caps playing lights out. Devils reignited and the Canes after having to dump talent still relevant without real goaltending? Teams are so balanced you don’t know who’s going to be good year to year. For me coaching is everything in cap based sports.
Look at the Oilers. Best one two punch and they sucked ass until they hired Knoblauch last year. Went from worst to the SCF.
The difference between today and last night is so obvious. They are playing like they’re not interested imho.
So I’m agreeing with you on the psychological aspect but not on the talent. |
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nyisles7
New York Islanders |
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Location: Wrong timing, NY Joined: 01.20.2009
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Where was this effort the first 55 minutes? |
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keaner17
New York Islanders |
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Location: Prepared for the worst Joined: 07.12.2007
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That means cleaning house. How else could you solve it?
They played better under Trotz. Yes, they were younger but they played better and the effort was there.
I'm not blaming Roy, I think it is a talent issue. - JimmyP
Yes, cleaning house or at least a significant overhaul |
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JimmyP
New York Islanders |
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Location: Snow has melted! Joined: 02.12.2011
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Burke: "Too little, too late."
Says it all. |
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nyisles7
New York Islanders |
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Location: Wrong timing, NY Joined: 01.20.2009
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So when Roy was hired I was very positive about it. I don't think at this point it’s a fit.
There’s no consistency period to period let alone game to game.
The specialty team play is atrocious.
This team could play PK in the past. ( pre Lame) PP was always tough but they could kill penalties.
The PK is dreadful. The PP maybe worse. |
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ses111
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 06.07.2008
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Lack of talent, age, not enough young talent, slow, too comfortable. At this point you could probably add culture but that’s more me making a guess at what I’m seeing. - Cptmjl
It's all of this and players being too comfortable knowing it's nearly impossible they can get moved is a huge issue. I think it's sad some want to blame Patrick now. Lou was in control of the roster and hiring the coaches. It's all on him and the players.
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Cptmjl
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 11.05.2011
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It's all of this and players being too comfortable knowing it's nearly impossible they can get moved is a huge issue. I think it's sad some want to blame Patrick now. Lou was in control of the roster and hiring the coaches. It's all on him and the players. - ses111
I think firing another coach would be laughable at this point. I am not saying that because I think Roy is some incredible coach I'm saying it due to it so obviously not being the problem. I wouldn’t care if Roy wasn’t the teams coach next season he hasn’t done anything that makes me feel he’s worth holding on too. I don’t think him going will fix the problems. I don’t hate him either. Kind of indifferent to him like I was with Lambert. That’s because they both had a roster it was impossible to judge them with. |
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ses111
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 06.07.2008
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I think firing another coach would be laughable at this point. I am not saying that because I think Roy is some incredible coach I'm saying it due to it so obviously not being the problem. I wouldn’t care if Roy wasn’t the teams coach next season he hasn’t done anything that makes me feel he’s worth holding on too. I don’t think him going will fix the problems. I don’t hate him either. Kind of indifferent to him like I was with Lambert. That’s because they both had a roster it was impossible to judge them with. - Cptmjl
Yep! It's not even about Roy. Lou should not get to fire another coach. The players have no fear of changes. What is another coach going to do and what proven type coach is going to want this job with this roster and with Lou and his rep with coaches? Barry did not get a say in the roster with Lou so that would be another negative for the Islanders getting a proven coach. |
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Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders |
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Location: Long Island, NY Joined: 06.29.2007
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Points awarded for the effort here. Well done, sir - keaner17
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Cptmjl
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 11.05.2011
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Yep! It's not even about Roy. Lou should not get to fire another coach. The players have no fear of changes. What is another coach going to do and what proven type coach is going to want this job with this roster and with Lou and his rep with coaches? Barry did not get a say in the roster with Lou so that would be another negative for the Islanders getting a proven coach. - ses111
We’ve all seen teams get a bump in play from firing coaches. This team could respond the same way if Lou fired Roy but ultimately it’s putting lip stick on a pig. It doesn’t address the obvious. |
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ses111
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 06.07.2008
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We’ve all seen teams get a bump in play from firing coaches. This team could respond the same way if Lou fired Roy but ultimately it’s putting lip stick on a pig. It doesn’t address the obvious. - Cptmjl
Knowing the Islanders luck, they’ll fire Roy and he will win big elsewhere. Patrick impressed me just by not wanting Pierre or Martin to make the team. I think Patrick understands the issues with the team. |
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kindlyrick
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Location: Dallas, TX Joined: 06.21.2007
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Meh most are NHL talented players. Barzal, Nelly, Bo etc.
why are the Rags sucking ass? Caps playing lights out. Devils reignited and the Canes after having to dump talent still relevant without real goaltending? Teams are so balanced you don’t know who’s going to be good year to year. For me coaching is everything in cap based sports.
Look at the Oilers. Best one two punch and they sucked ass until they hired Knoblauch last year. Went from worst to the SCF.
The difference between today and last night is so obvious. They are playing like they’re not interested imho.
So I’m agreeing with you on the psychological aspect but not on the talent. - nyisles7
This sport begins and ends with special teams. Kill a big penalty and it rejuvenates the bench. Tie a game with the man advantage and the pendulum swings. The isles special teams have been bad for many years. It’s a momentum killer if you continue to not score on the PP or allow goals on the kill. Somehow they kept Maclean after going 0-21 in last years playoffs on the PP.
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eichiefs9
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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This sport begins and ends with special teams. Kill a big penalty and it rejuvenates the bench. Tie a game with the man advantage and the pendulum swings. The isles special teams have been bad for many years. It’s a momentum killer if you continue to not score on the PP or allow goals on the kill. Somehow they kept Maclean after going 0-21 in last years playoffs on the PP. - kindlyrick
See: Rangers, New York
Last year they had a top-3 PP in the league, this year they're 10th worst. Presidents Trophy last year, 26th best record this year so far. |
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ses111
New York Islanders |
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See: Rangers, New York
Last year they had a top-3 PP in the league, this year they're 10th worst. Presidents Trophy last year, 26th best record this year so far. - eichiefs9
Coaches have been changed and the roster very little. It’s clear what the issues are with this team. Make another coaching change and see how not much will change.
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kindlyrick
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Location: Dallas, TX Joined: 06.21.2007
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See: Rangers, New York
Last year they had a top-3 PP in the league, this year they're 10th worst. Presidents Trophy last year, 26th best record this year so far. - eichiefs9
The difference being when the sh!t hit the fan Drury started to make changes, and I’m sure isn’t done (scratching kreider etc). The gaslighting line of “we believe in this group” is Garth Snow old.
The isles PP hasn’t been consistent for far too long. Remember the days of adding Cliff Ronning, or MAB to kickstart the PP? It’s been an issue and it continues to be stale. Let’s start with replacing Maclean and get the PP on a more consistent track. Next would be the obvious failed PK. I believe not replacing Johnny Boychuk was the decline of the PK.
When people say the game has passed Lou by, part of that is continuing this BS nepotism that is great for favors down the road but doesn’t put team first now. |
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eichiefs9
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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The difference being when the sh!t hit the fan Drury started to make changes, and I’m sure isn’t done (scratching kreider etc). The gaslighting line of “we believe in this group” is Garth Snow old.
The isles PP hasn’t been consistent for far too long. Remember the days of adding Cliff Ronning, or MAB to kickstart the PP? It’s been an issue and it continues to be stale. Let’s start with replacing Maclean and get the PP on a more consistent track. Next would be the obvious failed PK. I believe not replacing Johnny Boychuk was the decline of the PK.
When people say the game has passed Lou by, part of that is continuing this BS nepotism that is great for favors down the road but doesn’t put team first now. - kindlyrick
I can respect Drury being proactive and not catering to his players because they're veterans, but he's definitely not helping anything with the way he goes about it. He's effectively been the polar opposite of Lou.
Islanders desperately need to clean house, this roster is beyond stale. It's mummified. |
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