Not saying I agree with it, but I guess the idea of giving up the first to acquire a top line guy (which the isles couldn’t do via free agency) could be recouped by trading Brock Nelson or Kyle Palmieri. I see both sides of it.

My issue is having Lou be the guy doing it. Ten years ago when he stepped down from the devils he said "My age is no secret," Lamoriello said in a conference call Monday. "I have to be realistic; I have to be honest with myself."
Ten years later into his 80s…..is he really the guy?!?!?!
- kindlyrick

Looking at both sides of it also but giving up a first, Dobson, and what may be our best prospect in Nelson does not help this team down the road. Guy is young(I see that side of it)but he also is signed to an 8 year 11.6 per yr contract. This would be mortgaging our future for yes a top line player but makes the inevitable rebuild that more painful. Our farm is pretty much devoid of any talent. I can’t see how Lou would make this happen even if it were reality with salary.

Looking at both sides of it also but giving up a first, Dobson, and what may be our best prospect in Nelson does not help this team down the road. Guy is young(I see that side of it)but he also is signed to an 8 year 11.6 per yr contract. This would be mortgaging our future for yes a top line player but makes the inevitable rebuild that more painful. Our farm is pretty much devoid of any talent.
- Cptmjl

This trade is too risky. Nelson is showing good signs and is younger and controlled. Dobson is also only 24. What if Pettersson has more issues like he is having with Miller? The idea Vancouver is even thinking about moving him is a huge red flag.

It’s not just the head coach. Assistants play a part in the success and failure and especially when the head coach does not get to pick his coaches.
- ses111

That was my point. New head coach who doesn’t pick his assistants isn’t much of a change.

This trade is too risky. Nelson is showing good signs and is younger and controlled. Dobson is also only 24. What if Pettersson has more issues like he is having with Miller? The idea Vancouver is even thinking about moving him is a huge red flag.
- ses111

I don't see any way it could happen even if Lou wanted it. I highly doubt he does. Lou has a history of avoiding those problem players no matter their talent.

That was my point. New head coach who doesn’t pick his assistants isn’t much of a change.
- kindlyrick

I have to think that Roy knew what he was getting when he signed. He does sound frustrated at times, but it's hard to determine the source.

I don't see any way it could happen even if Lou wanted it. I highly doubt he does. Lou has a history of avoiding those problem players no matter their talent.
- JimmyP

Let’s hope it does not happen Jimmy. Not one bad contract Vancouver takes back in that trade on top of everything.

This trade is too risky. Nelson is showing good signs and is younger and controlled. Dobson is also only 24. What if Pettersson has more issues like he is having with Miller?
- ses111

It’s not even risky it’s dumb. This team needs help in multiple areas. Trading young players, picks, and prospects to solidify one spot is not what this team should be doing. I can’t see it happening.

Let’s hope it does not happen Jimmy. Not one bad contract Vancouver takes back in that trade on top of everything.
- ses111

While adding 11.6 million per for the next 8 years. Like I said can’t see it happening.

I have to think that Roy knew what he was getting when he signed. He does sound frustrated at times, but it's hard to determine the source.
- JimmyP

Roy knows Lou’s history with coaches. I think we he can guess on the source of Roy’s frustration. The nonsense with forcing Pierre back on the team is enough. Maybe Patrick was worried about turning Lou down for the job and he gets labeled difficult?

I have to think that Roy knew what he was getting when he signed. He does sound frustrated at times, but it's hard to determine the source.
- JimmyP

That’s why I was a bit shocked he picked this team to come back to the NHL. 😆

New coach would still mean Lou’s staff. 5 of the 7 coaches are devils.
- kindlyrick

True but that was Roy’s decision. Who from the staff to keep and who to bring in new. Dont know if Lou will make a new coach hire. If they don’t make the POs I think he’s going to walk into the sunset.

It’s not even risky it’s dumb. This team needs help in multiple areas. Trading young players, picks, and prospects to solidify one spot is not what this team should be doing. I can’t see it happening.
- Cptmjl

Yep! This is the last piece of the puzzle type move.

You would think Roy being an all time great goalie and coming from the Habs. He would understand the proper d system. I think a big issue is Pelech and Pulock and Mayfield are not the same and Toews and Leddy were not adequately replaced. The offense not scoring enough puts even more pressure on the d and goalies. I think it’s more of a roster problem. If a new GM is hired and wants to hire his own coach, I’m all for it. Just think it’s time for a new GM and the rest of this year should be about trading players away.
- ses111

There are way too many lapses in the D zone especially with coverage in the house.
They are playing a man to man hybrid and his whole second man strong is causing a lot of these lapses in my opinion. When to go in and double up and when to stay and cover your zone or man.
Just my opinion but there are just to many high danger chances given to our opponents.

I have to think that Roy knew what he was getting when he signed. He does sound frustrated at times, but it's hard to determine the source.
- JimmyP

You could be right, although a jobs a job. Who knows what offers Roy had. It coulda been just the isles. Either way I think it’s weird that Roy doesn’t get exclusivity for his coaches

There are way too many lapses in the D zone especially with coverage in the house.
They are playing a man to man hybrid and his whole second man strong is causing a lot of these lapses in my opinion. When to go in and double up and when to stay and cover your zone or man.
Just my opinion but there are just to many high danger chances given to our opponents.
- nyisles7

I’m fine with trying a new d system. I still think this team is way short of being a Cup team even with better defense. Special teams and offense would still be an issue. This team has not be able to get all facets of game going at the same time for a long time.

You could be right, although a jobs a job. Who knows what offers Roy had. It coulda been just the isles. Either way I think it’s weird that Roy doesn’t get exclusivity for his coaches
- kindlyrick

Lou made it sound this offseason that Patrick would have more say. It was not like that in terms of assistant coaches or decisions like Pierre and Martin.

Looking at both sides of it also but giving up a first, Dobson, and what may be our best prospect in Nelson does not help this team down the road. Guy is young(I see that side of it)but he also is signed to an 8 year 11.6 per yr contract. This would be mortgaging our future for yes a top line player but makes the inevitable rebuild that more painful. Our farm is pretty much devoid of any talent. I can’t see how Lou would make this happen even if it were reality with salary.
- Cptmjl

Typed a whole thing and it got deleted lol

I was saying that I thought Nelson was supposed to be a 3rd liner? Also, if the isles have a chance to add a young 100 pts player I think it’s more reward than risk. They haven’t had a legitimate first line in years so this move changed that while addressing the Pp.
As for fitting the salary you can move Brock, Palmieri, Lee or Cizikas and get draft capital or assets to move at the draft. The isles have 4 legit prospects who aren’t too far away, so this could be the re tool.
Clearly I’m throwing sh!t at the wall in hopes of change. I’m not sure Lou is the guy to do it but ownership might feel differently than me.

Not saying I agree with it, but I guess the idea of giving up the first to acquire a top line guy (which the isles couldn’t do via free agency) could be recouped by trading Brock Nelson or Kyle Palmieri. I see both sides of it.

My issue is having Lou be the guy doing it. Ten years ago when he stepped down from the devils he said "My age is no secret," Lamoriello said in a conference call Monday. "I have to be realistic; I have to be honest with myself."
Ten years later into his 80s…..is he really the guy?!?!?!
- kindlyrick

Rick it is not just the first but Nelson (projected top 6) could be the future brock nelson. And Dobson. This team cannot afford to give pieces like that for a piece that will be 27. We need to do opposite and trade a 30 for a 24, prospect and pick. Not to mention his money will not work with the teams current cap.

You could be right, although a jobs a job. Who knows what offers Roy had. It coulda been just the isles. Either way I think it’s weird that Roy doesn’t get exclusivity for his coaches
- kindlyrick

Coaches should get to sink or swim with their own coaches. Maybe Patrick was hoping Lou would be more willing to give after Lane did not work out?

Typed a whole thing and it got deleted lol

I was saying that I thought Nelson was supposed to be a 3rd liner? Also, if the isles have a chance to add a young 100 pts player I think it’s more reward than risk. They haven’t had a legitimate first line in years so this move changed that while addressing the Pp.
As for fitting the salary you can move Brock, Palmieri, Lee or Cizikas and get draft capital or assets to move at the draft. The isles have 4 legit prospects who aren’t too far away, so this could be the re tool.
Clearly I’m throwing sh!t at the wall in hopes of change. I’m not sure Lou is the guy to do it but ownership might feel differently than me.
- kindlyrick

Just happened to me and I’m not retyping it. 😆

Let’s just say I agree with some of your post but disagree with a bit as well. 😆

Typed a whole thing and it got deleted lol

I was saying that I thought Nelson was supposed to be a 3rd liner? Also, if the isles have a chance to add a young 100 pts player I think it’s more reward than risk. They haven’t had a legitimate first line in years so this move changed that while addressing the Pp.
As for fitting the salary you can move Brock, Palmieri, Lee or Cizikas and get draft capital or assets to move at the draft. The isles have 4 legit prospects who aren’t too far away, so this could be the re tool.
Clearly I’m throwing sh!t at the wall in hopes of change. I’m not sure Lou is the guy to do it but ownership might feel differently than me.
- kindlyrick

He’s 26. If you can get him for older vets and a pick that’s no guarantee you do it. He’s an asset that’s a known commodity. If you need to trade him like you said he’s 100 point a game playe. They don’t grow on trees.

Rick it is not just the first but Nelson (projected top 6) could be the future brock nelson. And Dobson. This team cannot afford to give pieces like that for a piece that will be 27. We need to do opposite and trade a 30 for a 24, prospect and pick. Not to mention his money will not work with the teams current cap.
- Nfdbulldawg

I agree. Seems like a bad trade for the current Islander team. Pettersson does not fix the dman issues or PK issues.

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Rick it is not just the first but Nelson (projected top 6) could be the future brock nelson. And Dobson. This team cannot afford to give pieces like that for a piece that will be 27. We need to do opposite and trade a 30 for a 24, prospect and pick. Not to mention his money will not work with the teams current cap.
- Nfdbulldawg

Nelson is projected a 3rd liner in all his scouting briefs.