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mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Saturday @ 5:38 PM ET
The announcers were speculating that he was benched for the penalty he took.
- Don Nachbaur


Torts said afterwards he benched TK for being undisciplined. Accountability is fine, but in such a tight game, you sit one of your best players with 2 points on the line just to make a point. SMH.


Bench him, but you owe it to the team to put the best players out there, especially in OT. Just ill-advised IMO. Ok done complaining for now.

MM39 with 2 more! Now please go out and get that young man a talented young centre. Picking 15 prolly ain’t gonna cut it. Either give up the picks and prospects or acquire a top 3-5 pick but this current path ain’t cutting it.

Ok now I’m done complaining. Go MM39!
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Saturday @ 5:49 PM ET
Torts said afterwards he benched TK for being undisciplined. Accountability is fine, but in such a tight game, you sit one of your best players with 2 points on the line just to make a point. SMH.


Bench him, but you owe it to the team to put the best players out there, especially in OT. Just ill-advised IMO. Ok done complaining for now.

MM39 with 2 more! Now please go out and get that young man a talented young centre. Picking 15 prolly ain’t gonna cut it. Either give up the picks and prospects or acquire a top 3-5 pick but this current path ain’t cutting it.

Ok now I’m done complaining. Go MM39!

- mikeyo27


I dont remember seeing Couturier or MM in OT. Did Frost get any OT time? Were they being disciplined too?
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Saturday @ 5:56 PM ET
But Torts was right ✅️ in the postgame presser. Embellishment is now more
rampant than in soccer imo.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Saturday @ 6:11 PM ET
I'm not a Torts hater on here like some are, but sometimes he is a total smacked ass. Benching TK is just stupid! Your team busted their butts, but then in OT you start the no hands unit to make a point? That's just asinine!!
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Saturday @ 7:16 PM ET
Torts said afterwards he benched TK for being undisciplined. Accountability is fine, but in such a tight game, you sit one of your best players with 2 points on the line just to make a point. SMH.


Bench him, but you owe it to the team to put the best players out there, especially in OT. Just ill-advised IMO. Ok done complaining for now.

MM39 with 2 more! Now please go out and get that young man a talented young centre. Picking 15 prolly ain’t gonna cut it. Either give up the picks and prospects or acquire a top 3-5 pick but this current path ain’t cutting it.

Ok now I’m done complaining. Go MM39!

- mikeyo27


I missed the postgame but that's the kind of thing that pisses me off about Torts. I was fine with TK sitting a bit in the 3rd, but yes, the best players should be out there in OT. Terrible decision by Torts.


Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Saturday @ 7:21 PM ET
I'm not a Torts hater on here like some are, but sometimes he is a total smacked ass. Benching TK is just stupid! Your team busted their butts, but then in OT you start the no hands unit to make a point? That's just asinine!!
- Phillywhiteout


Agreed! The way we were playing, I doubt we would have won, but Torts with a bad decision. I want to see TK out there in OT...not Cates and Poehling.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Saturday @ 7:29 PM ET
Right now, prospect pool for the upcoming draft is not as deep as first thought apparently. The team has 2 point per game wingers and only one top 6 center. Seems like an issue. Michkov is such an offensive genius. His timing on the ice on where to be is impeccable. The truly great players have that ability, it cannot be taught
DANCER
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.30.2019

Saturday @ 7:31 PM ET
Agreed! The way we were playing, I doubt we would have won, but Torts with a bad decision. I want to see TK out there in OT...not Cates and Poehling.
- Don Nachbaur

Torts always wears old his welcome, eventually. Isn't it obvious that all of his young players are tanking? It's not that the organization wants the higher pick, its the players that aren't being developed.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Saturday @ 8:02 PM ET
I agree. They should trade mm to kick start the rebuild and so that he doesn’t have to languish playing for a team with no hope.. I personally don’t take joy in seeing them lose and want the young players on the team to continue to go through these growing pains to learn. Just a reminder that there are many young players on this team. It’s like some people want them to lose so they can validate their opinion that the only path is a buffalo style rebuild.
- Hextall271


You constantly keep getting this wrong. Nobody thinks that a "Buffalo style" rebuild is the only path. However do think that a true rebuild is the best path and highest percentage path to take. It doesn't matter how many young players are on the team. It matters how many young elite players you have. How do they get them? By being a capped out playoff bubble team? What is winning to you? Is it being a mediocre middle of the pack team? That's winning?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Saturday @ 8:06 PM ET
It very well might. What people don’t consider is how much of a crap shoot that the draft is. Of note, there are some that are now saying that mm may be the best player in his draft. Better than the almighty bedard. Could you imagine if that comes to pass?

An Edmonton style rebuild even you’re looking at a decade or more. And have they won a cup? They got close but may not again even with the best player on the planet. And how many years of being terrible and missing on top picks did it take to get a mcdavid? I like the fact that they have several young players on the team. Some are emerging as key pieces, some look like they won’t be but people act like we should get rid of every young vet on the team to bottom out. Then you’re looking at a frustrated mm who may say, forget this. Then we’re no further ahead.

We have several picks and hopefully get more. I’m not advocating for them to acquire vets to go for it, but with a different coach in a couple years, I don’t see this team as being stuck I. Neutral. Bottoming out for decades trying to get a generational talent or several doesn’t always work. Hit in the draft with numerous picks and you may just get lucky with a generational talent as it looks like we may have.

- Hextall271


What many don't consider is that trying to build with trades and free agency is a much, much bigger crap shoot than building through the draft. The Flyers have one young key piece. One, that's it. Let's get lucky with later picks in the draft. How has that been working out? Some don't want to have patience and don't want to wait but they're okay with sticking with the same failed strategy that has them waiting 14 years and counting.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Saturday @ 8:06 PM ET
He just seems like he’s not quite there yet. I think he could be very good one day…that’s just not today. If ever a guy screamed for 40-50 games in the AHL it’s him.
- landros 2


Kolosov was very good in the game and gave the Flyers a chance to win the game.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Saturday @ 8:25 PM ET
I agree does that a lot…

Anyone else feeling like Cam York and Travis Sanheim together isn’t really working? I know they were a great pair before York got hurt. But now Sanheim is sort of come into his own in a different way and it feels like they’re getting each other‘s way. They’re kind of the same player.

- Eklund


Ek, the Sanheim/York pairing were completely dominant in this game.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Saturday @ 8:37 PM ET
It very well might. What people don’t consider is how much of a crap shoot that the draft is. Of note, there are some that are now saying that mm may be the best player in his draft. Better than the almighty bedard. Could you imagine if that comes to pass?

An Edmonton style rebuild even you’re looking at a decade or more. And have they won a cup? They got close but may not again even with the best player on the planet. And how many years of being terrible and missing on top picks did it take to get a mcdavid? I like the fact that they have several young players on the team. Some are emerging as key pieces, some look like they won’t be but people act like we should get rid of every young vet on the team to bottom out. Then you’re looking at a frustrated mm who may say, forget this. Then we’re no further ahead.

We have several picks and hopefully get more. I’m not advocating for them to acquire vets to go for it, but with a different coach in a couple years, I don’t see this team as being stuck I. Neutral. Bottoming out for decades trying to get a generational talent or several doesn’t always work. Hit in the draft with numerous picks and you may just get lucky with a generational talent as it looks like we may have.

- Hextall271


Who are the some? I’ve said from day 1 mm was the best in the draft including bedard
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Saturday @ 8:38 PM ET
What long term contracts were handed out? Poehling got 2 years, Hathaway got 2 years, Cates is RFA, Laughton has 1 year left after this,

Deslauriers got 4 years but that was from the previous GM

Only contract to be upset about is the Seeler one but that can be rectified after year 2.

In what world are Farabee and Tippett 3rd line players? Both had 50 points last season. Tippett had 28 goals. Those arent 3rd line accomplishments.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Besides coots and tk horrible deals?
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Saturday @ 8:40 PM ET
Kplosov was very good in the game and gave the Flyers a chance to win the game.
- MJL


Yes he was….but I still think he could use time in the AHL. I think it would be good for his development and for the Flyers.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Saturday @ 8:51 PM ET
Yes he was….but I still think he could use time in the AHL. I think it would be good for his development and for the Flyers.
- landros 2


In a short sample, it looks to me like he can play in the NHL. He's better than Fedotov in my opinion. AHL time won't hurt him though. We'll see what they do.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Saturday @ 10:42 PM ET
Besides coots and tk horrible deals?
- Stayin alive


Coots was signed by another GM. Konecny is a point per game player right now
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Saturday @ 10:48 PM ET
You constantly keep getting this wrong. Nobody thinks that a "Buffalo style" rebuild is the only path. However do think that a true rebuild is the best path and highest percentage path to take. It doesn't matter how many young players are on the team. It matters how many young elite players you have. How do they get them? By being a capped out playoff bubble team? What is winning to you? Is it being a mediocre middle of the pack team? That's winning?
- MJL


All of your favorites are doing well! Go Sabres! Go Monty! Go Frosty! Fun fact...Hathaway who has no business being on the Flyers or in the NHL, has the same amount of goals as Frosty and only one fewer assist. That stiff has only one fewer point than your boy Frosty. Crazy
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Saturday @ 11:00 PM ET
All of your favorites are doing well! Go Sabres! Go Monty! Go Frosty! Fun fact...Hathaway who has no business being on the Flyers or in the NHL, has the same amount of goals as Frosty and only one fewer assist. That stiff has only one fewer point than your boy Frosty. Crazy
- Don Nachbaur

That scrub 👒 haway gets more icetime to produce 🫡
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Saturday @ 11:15 PM ET
That scrub 👒 haway gets more icetime to produce 🫡
- THE EVIL WITHIN


Lol yes plus he's played in more games. That said, according to some on here, he shouldn't be on the team and is a useless scrub who the Flyers have bc they are stuck in the 70s. Meanwhile, he's only been in one fight that I recall since he's been here.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Saturday @ 11:24 PM ET
That scrub 👒 haway gets more icetime to produce 🫡
- THE EVIL WITHIN


No he doesnt. Hathaways ATOI is 12 mins. Frost is 14 mins. secondly more icetime means little for a scrub. It means a less skilled player is playing against higher skilled players and is actually less likely to produce.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Saturday @ 11:25 PM ET
Coots was signed by another GM. Konecny is a point per game player right now
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

So coots was signed by another gm? Was db not around when that deal signed? And does it matter? After seeing just how bad a deal like that CAN age why sign tk to a similar type deal? Obviously status quo
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Saturday @ 11:53 PM ET
No he doesnt. Hathaways ATOI is 12 mins. Frost is 14 mins. secondly more icetime means little for a scrub. It means a less skilled player is playing against higher skilled players and is actually less likely to produce.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx



True story. MJLs hero Frosty has more minutes played than that scrub Hathaway who should not be on the team but has only one fewer point than poor Frosty who is still basically a rookie bc of injuries and evil Torts mind games shattering the poor kids' dreams of playing in the NHL . Frosty -6 and scrub Hathaway +1
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sunday @ 7:15 AM ET
Torts said afterwards he benched TK for being undisciplined. Accountability is fine, but in such a tight game, you sit one of your best players with 2 points on the line just to make a point. SMH.


Bench him, but you owe it to the team to put the best players out there, especially in OT. Just ill-advised IMO. Ok done complaining for now.

MM39 with 2 more! Now please go out and get that young man a talented young centre. Picking 15 prolly ain’t gonna cut it. Either give up the picks and prospects or acquire a top 3-5 pick but this current path ain’t cutting it.

Ok now I’m done complaining. Go MM39!

- mikeyo27


I know everyone here hates torts but kudos to him for calling out the diving by the bruins. At least two of those calls were not penalties. One we barely touched the players arm and the other was a love tap on a skate. Dive. Well done coach.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sunday @ 7:45 AM ET
Who are you hurting by benching TK? Assuming this is what he did.
- furio16

TK deserved to be benched ... he has played a terrible two games in terms of discipline. I don't know what's going on with him but he needs to be a better leader and grow up. I am glad Torts benched him but I am concerned that Torts has to do this at this stage in his career.
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