https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/video/will-the-philadelphia-flyers-be-sellers-at-the-trade-deadline/

Video of Jones interview with kipper and Bourne on sportsnet. Probably been posted. I know many will say he’s lying, but I can’t see him adding anyone and his comments are clear that he will subtract players at the right price. (Can’t see mm being dealt). As long as he’s true to his word, then I have no issue with this. Trade vets for prospects and picks with a view to the future.
- Hextall271

Dont you know that the Flyers are lying anytime they say something fans agree with but are 100% truthful when you dont agree with it?

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/video/will-the-philadelphia-flyers-be-sellers-at-the-trade-deadline/

Video of Jones interview with kipper and Bourne on sportsnet. Probably been posted. I know many will say he’s lying, but I can’t see him adding anyone and his comments are clear that he will subtract players at the right price. (Can’t see mm being dealt). As long as he’s true to his word, then I have no issue with this. Trade vets for prospects and picks with a view to the future.
- Hextall271

Didn't listen though my guess all GM type speak. Saying what he thinks people want to hear and saying what all management says.

Actions will show what they do. The right price. Well, when you set a high price that shows you have zero intention of moving that player. Then they can say our "price" wasn't met.

I pray they stay in the playoff mix up until the deadline. Then we shall see what the outcome is and what direction they may want to go.

And what did they do last year? Subtract players at the right price?
- ClaudeFather

Traded one. Added one. Net zero.

Dont you know that the Flyers are lying anytime they say something fans agree with but are 100% truthful when you dont agree with it?
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Actions speak louder than words.

Traded one. Added one. Net zero.
- furio16

Def not net zero. They gained 1st rount pick and gave up a 4th for a depth player. Hardly net zero

Def not net zero. They gained 1st rount pick and gave up a 4th for a depth player. Hardly net zero
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

One player moved, one player added. The Flyers did not move a single player last season with the idea being that they're rebuilding and need to move trade-able assets for future assets

Def not net zero. They gained 1st rount pick and gave up a 4th for a depth player. Hardly net zero
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

We are talking players on the roster. Net zero. Love the defending. Very amusing.

They also acquired a player in RHJO which you left out. Also traded a 5th rd pick.

One player moved, one player added. The Flyers did not move a single player last season with the idea being that they're rebuilding and need to move trade-able assets for future assets
- MJL

So why didn’t they pay Walker his asking price? Just do whatever it takes to keep him and make the playoffs? Or. Don’t trade him and make the playoffs with getting nothing in return? There were options. They traded him for a first with a view to the future. Brought in Johnson as a token gesture to see if they could still make it. To me, that’s what I was calling for them to do all along. Trade pending ufa rh dman for a first looking down the road.

I understand that they can’t tell the players to lose to get a higher pick and that’s fine. Even if they’re solid in a playoff spot which I don’t expect l, I’m completely up for trading any and all vets even tk if it’s for a boat load. Frost bee, sure but I am more Leary about trading the youth away unless it’s for another young nhl player needing a change of scenery. Although i suspect no one believes him, jones said it’s not go time yet and that trading away vets is the plan no matter where they stand. This isn’t a go time year.

So why didn’t they pay Walker his asking price? Just do whatever it takes to keep him and make the playoffs? Or. Don’t trade him and make the playoffs with getting nothing in return? There were options. They traded him for a first with a view to the future. Brought in Johnson as a token gesture to see if they could still make it. To me, that’s what I was calling for them to do all along. Trade pending ufa rh dman for a first looking down the road.
- Hextall271

Every player has a value. They could not come to an agreeable deal. Here are the facts. A team that is truly rebuilding, does not negotiate with a player like Walker on an expiring deal. They look to trade him for the best value they can get at the deadline. Does not re-sign players like Hathaway and Seeler. Trades Konecny for a high return. The overwhelming balance of what the Flyers do and have done, does not point to a rebuild. It points to a team that is trying to escalate and compete for a playoff spot. Yet some look at the minority moves and statements made in interviews and say, see, they are rebuilding. Not to mention keep bringing up a team like Buffalo and say they're tired of waiting. While advocating for the team to take the very approach that currently has them waiting 14 years and counting.

So why didn’t they pay Walker his asking price? Just do whatever it takes to keep him and make the playoffs? Or. Don’t trade him and make the playoffs with getting nothing in return? There were options. They traded him for a first with a view to the future. Brought in Johnson as a token gesture to see if they could still make it. To me, that’s what I was calling for them to do all along. Trade pending ufa rh dman for a first looking down the road.

I understand that they can’t tell the players to lose to get a higher pick and that’s fine. Even if they’re solid in a playoff spot which I don’t expect l, I’m completely up for trading any and all vets even tk if it’s for a boat load. Frost bee, sure but I am more Leary about trading the youth away unless it’s for another young nhl player needing a change of scenery. Although i suspect no one believes him, jones said it’s not go time yet and that trading away vets is the plan no matter where they stand. This isn’t a go time year.
- Hextall271

Hard to answer unless you know what he was asking for. Trading him was about as easy a move a GM can make. A no brainer.

Shows their talent evaluation at the pro level is bad.

Why wasn't trading vets the plan last year? Their vets are now locked into longer term deal that other teams may not find attractive.

Did Jones go into the room after that interview and tell that players it is BS and he doesn't mean it. Like he did last year.

Every player has a value. They could not come to an agreeable deal. Here are the facts. A team that is truly rebuilding, does not negotiate with a player like Walker on an expiring deal. They look to trade him for the best value they can get at the deadline. Does not re-sign players like Hathaway and Seeler. Trades Konecny for a high return. The overwhelming balance of what the Flyers do and have done, does not point to a rebuild. It points to a team that is trying to escalate and compete for a playoff spot. Yet some look at the minority moves and statements made in interviews and say, see, they are rebuilding. Not to mention keep bringing up a team like Buffalo and say they're tired of waiting. While advocating for the team to take the very approach that currently has them waiting 14 years and counting.
- MJL

It if they’re not rebuilding and going for it, why not go all in and keep him. To me because they never intended to. Was it lip service to the player or to the team, I don’t know. But they did the right thing? If they’re not rebuilding, why keep the picks they have in this draft? Ship em out for immediate help? You still need some vets on every team even one rebuilding. Look at the hawks. They’ve brought in a few and they’re in a tear down the studs rebuild. To me, it’s ok to sign a few vets and flip them at the tdl for more assets. I have no problem with that. They’re not going for it all. They’re compiling picks and have one of the youngest teams in the league I believe.

Traded one. Added one. Net zero.
- furio16

Take a lap bud

One player moved, one player added. The Flyers did not move a single player last season with the idea being that they're rebuilding and need to move trade-able assets for future assets
- MJL

What was the Walker trade 😂 this should be good

Def not net zero. They gained 1st rount pick and gave up a 4th for a depth player. Hardly net zero
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

It’s crazy the dumb hills these people will die on to fit their narrative. The Walker trade was the perfect example. Do I wish they moved more than just him, yea. But to say they didn’t is just asinine.

We are talking players on the roster. Net zero. Love the defending. Very amusing.

They also acquired a player in RHJO which you left out. Also traded a 5th rd pick.
- furio16

There’s no way they get a 1rst for Walker without taking RHJO….they don’t get a 1rst in the Provy deal with out taking Cal Peterson…and actually Walker, coming off major knee surgery…no offence to DB…but he’s no Keith Allen.
Now do I care? No, not really. If they have to take on dead money or short term horrid contracts, while in an infancy stage of the the retool, then so be it.

It if they’re not rebuilding and going for it, why not go all in and keep him. To me because they never intended to. Was it lip service to the player or to the team, I don’t know. But they did the right thing? If they’re not rebuilding, why keep the picks they have in this draft? Ship em out for immediate help? You still need some vets on every team even one rebuilding. Look at the hawks. They’ve brought in a few and they’re in a tear down the studs rebuild. To me, it’s ok to sign a few vets and flip them at the tdl for more assets. I have no problem with that. They’re not going for it all. They’re compiling picks and have one of the youngest teams in the league I believe.
- Hextall271

They are towing the middle of the road approach hoping for luck and what not. They refuse to pick a lane. What a great successful plan that will end up being.

A team that keeps their picks qualifies as rebuilding? Draft is far off. IMO come the draft they do not have 6 picks in the first two rounds. Which is fine depending how they use them picks in a trade.

The youngest team in the league is a bullpoop narrative the Flyers trying to sell. Outside of Tyson and MM they all have multiple years of NHL experience. Who cares if the team is young when the talent is nothing buy average overall outside a few players. Having vets on short term deals much diff than having vets on long term deals.

Take a lap bud
- ClaudeFather

I see you do not like facts.

I will dumb it down for you. How many players did they add to the roster? How many subtracted? To take it even further how many pieces shipped out? How many pieces brought back?

It if they’re not rebuilding and going for it, why not go all in and keep him. To me because they never intended to. Was it lip service to the player or to the team, I don’t know. But they did the right thing? If they’re not rebuilding, why keep the picks they have in this draft? Ship em out for immediate help? You still need some vets on every team even one rebuilding. Look at the hawks. They’ve brought in a few and they’re in a tear down the studs rebuild. To me, it’s ok to sign a few vets and flip them at the tdl for more assets. I have no problem with that. They’re not going for it all. They’re compiling picks and have one of the youngest teams in the league I believe.
- Hextall271

So they negotiated with his agent for a new deal under false pretenses? Is that what you're suggesting? The Flyers are not yet in the mode where they are going to use assets such as 1st round picks for trade deadline acquisitions for a playoff run. It is okay to sign a few vets but not to 4 year deals with trade protection like they did with Seeler. Or a two year deal for Hathaway. You can bring in vets every year on 1 year deals or much cheaper deals to add depth. The POHO has stated that they will as soon as they can, start using free agency to bolster the team. Instead of looking at how young the team is, look at their path to the Stanley Cup. Look at their future. Their stable of elite players and prospects. They have one, Michkov. Now look at their prospects and future ability to add more elite level talent. Are they going to realistically do that picking in the middle of the first round? Are they realistically going to be able to use free agency and trades to get there? What is that most likely outcome from that? History tells us all we need to know.

Dont you know that the Flyers are lying anytime they say something fans agree with but are 100% truthful when you dont agree with it?
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Thing is, they said it last season as well. He keeps pointing at the Walker trade, but everybody knows they only traded Walker because they felt his contract demands were too high and they would have resigned him otherwise. So in my opinion it is disingenuous to bring that SINGLE trade up as proof.

They said time and again they owed it to the team to give them a chance. So pointing to one token trade to get a late first round pick and a headache as proof doesn't cut it. I need to see REAL change this deadline. Frost...gone, Laughton....gone, Ristolainen....gone. If at least 2 deals aren't made including those players and some others (they should at least be listening on Poehling, Foerster, Farabee, Brink, and basically ANYONE else not named Michkov) IMO it is just more lip service.

He meant that the Bruins were apparently diving all over the ice trying to get calls. Looks like it worked since they ended up with a 6-2 advantage in PPs.
- Phillywhiteout

Who was embarrassing the refs?

I see you do not like facts.

I will dumb it down for you. How many players did they add to the roster? How many subtracted? To take it even further how many pieces shipped out? How many pieces brought back?
- furio16

How many players added, a cap dump? How many games had Ryjo played or blocked anyone? How many games has EJ played this year? Let me break it down for you. You’re a dumb Frank

Who was embarrassing the refs?
- Dkos

The bruins, by diving….

Who was embarrassing the refs?
- Dkos

The Boston players by embellishing

Thing is, they said it last season as well. He keeps pointing at the Walker trade, but everybody knows they only traded Walker because they felt his contract demands were too high and they would have resigned him otherwise. So in my opinion it is disingenuous to bring that SINGLE trade up as proof.

They said time and again they owed it to the team to give them a chance. So pointing to one token trade to get a late first round pick and a headache as proof doesn't cut it. I need to see REAL change this deadline. Frost...gone, Laughton....gone, Ristolainen....gone. If at least 2 deals aren't made including those players and some others (they should at least be listening on Poehling, Foerster, Farabee, Brink, and basically ANYONE else not named Michkov) IMO it is just more lip service.
- MBFlyerfan

He signed for 3.6 x 5 years, for all the contracts they have shelled out, you think this scared them off?

He signed for 3.6 x 5 years, for all the contracts they have shelled out, you think this scared them off?
- ClaudeFather

I don't think that was his ask from the Flyers. I think he asked for more years and higher AAV. And we he saw he couldn't get that on the open market he signed with a better team for less AAV when he got the years he wanted.