"And that was really when Claude went from what we see with a like a and in fact, I believe Morgan Frost now to a genuine star in this league."

I really have no idea what he was trying to say here. Did Ek have a stroke while typing this?!?
- SgtMikal

]I thought I was the one having a stroke when I read that part.

Absolute foolishness really. So he burns a year on the ELC. If he continues on this path we are going to have to pay him and I say great. I hope he evolves into a superstar and we have to pay him the league max.


I see complaints here that we don't have enough skilled players (with which I agree). Then, when we strike Gold and get one, it's oh God, now we'll have to pay them a year early.. how terrible.. another mess up by the Front office. They should have left him in the KHL..
- Hextall271

It's not foolishness, it's intelligence. If Michkov comes over at 20 or 21, which would extend his ELC further into the rebuild, that would benefit the Flyers. It's cool that we have a potential elite player but you know what the key is? Getting more elite players. What's the best way to do that? With higher or lower draft picks? Michkov not being here this year means what? The Flyers potentially finish lower in the standings and get a higher pick and a better chance at acquiring another elite player. Clearly the absolute foolishness is from those who say there is ZERO logic to Michkov not coming over and the cheerleading for a team that is heading for another era of mediocrity and an expanding cap for a playoff bubble team going nowhere.
It's also more hyperbole from you. I did not state that the front office messed up by bringing him over. I simply said it would've benefitted the Flyers if he had stayed in Russia longer. No comments were made of the front office and their decision on that.

"And that was really when Claude went from what we see with a like a and in fact, I believe Morgan Frost now to a genuine star in this league."

I really have no idea what he was trying to say here. Did Ek have a stroke while typing this?!?
- SgtMikal

His mind and his hands work semi-independent of one another.

Claude coming back to Philly would be the dumbest thing the Flyers could do. The Flyers need to look forward, not backwards. It's about getting a 1C and 1D, not living in the past.

It's not foolishness, it's intelligence. If Michkov comes over at 20 or 21, which would extend his ELC further into the rebuild, that would benefit the Flyers. It's cool that we have a potential elite player but you know what the key is? Getting more elite players. What's the best way to do that? With higher or lower draft picks? Michkov not being here this year means what? The Flyers potentially finish lower in the standings and get a higher pick and a better chance at acquiring another elite player. Clearly the absolute foolishness is from those who say there is ZERO logic to Michkov not coming over and the cheerleading for a team that is heading for another era of mediocrity and an expanding cap for a playoff bubble team going nowhere.
It's also more hyperbole from you. I did not state that the front office messed up by bringing him over. I simply said it would've benefitted the Flyers if he had stayed in Russia longer. No comments were made of the front office and their decision on that.
- MJL

It's not more hyperbole. You can keep throwing that comment at me all you want but you're only using it because you know you're wrong.

If anything, your comments on your disdain for the front office reach the height of hyperbole. It's over the top and unbalanced. Nothing they do can ever be correct and if it was, you wouldn't admit it.

Again, with the instability in the world related to Russia, what if we left him over there. Then either a global conflict breaks out or for some other reason, he can't come over at all? Then the asset is lost and you'd be calling them out for not taking action to get him over here. We saw something happen with Feds. Perhaps you forgot about it.

It's logic calling you out for your absurdity but there is no sense discussing anything with you because we all know that you're never wrong. Absurdity.

Absolute foolishness really. So he burns a year on the ELC. If he continues on this path we are going to have to pay him and I say great. I hope he evolves into a superstar and we have to pay him the league max.

I see complaints here that we don't have enough skilled players (with which I agree). Then, when we strike Gold and get one, it's oh God, now we'll have to pay them a year early.. how terrible.. another mess up by the Front office. They should have left him in the KHL..
- Hextall271

I did but how does that mean that Michkov is wasted? He has put 25 points in his first 26 NHL games. Does it seem like he is having an issue acclimating? The geopolitical arguments are the same as when he was drafted. Unfounded. I've been a Flyers fan for a long time and a poster here since 2007. I have been on both sides of the fence. An adamant supporter of the team and a criticizer of the team. Their actions and performance is what determines where I stand. I didn't state that it was a mistake to bring him over. I said they would have been better off if he had stayed in Russia longer. I'd be happy to explain that to you if necessary. You haven't done a very good job of pointing out how comments are beyond absurd and you continually embellish the comments made with hyperbole.
- MJL

It's not foolishness, it's intelligence. If Michkov comes over at 20 or 21, which would extend his ELC further into the rebuild, that would benefit the Flyers. It's cool that we have a potential elite player but you know what the key is? Getting more elite players. What's the best way to do that? With higher or lower draft picks? Michkov not being here this year means what? The Flyers potentially finish lower in the standings and get a higher pick and a better chance at acquiring another elite player. Clearly the absolute foolishness is from those who say there is ZERO logic to Michkov not coming over and the cheerleading for a team that is heading for another era of mediocrity and an expanding cap for a playoff bubble team going nowhere.
It's also more hyperbole from you. I did not state that the front office messed up by bringing him over. I simply said it would've benefitted the Flyers if he had stayed in Russia longer. No comments were made of the front office and their decision on that.
- MJL

It was a no brainer to bring him over when he wanted to come to the NHL! No wonder you like Hextall so much. You would manage the team just like he did and that is absolutely absurd! Oh, and thanks!

Anyone seeing any drones? I saw them Sunday night over Hammonton, and then over my house last night.

It was a weird Close Encounters of the Third Kind like vibe. I saw three hovering in formation then they all spread out in different directions.
- MBFlyerfan

So they finally made it south! Now in Hammonton.

1) Bringing Michkov over early could accelerate the rebuild.

2) Leaving him in Russia for another year helps with the tank this year and essentially extends his cheap ELC an extra year, as the Flyers are unlikely to compete for a Cup in the next few years.

3) The constantly shifting political landscape in Russia leads to concerns that players could be blocked from coming over at some point. So, better to get him over ASAP.

All valid points. #3 supersedes the other two for me. While I’m on Team Tank, no way I would have left him in Russia for another year. Another league/country? Different story.

1) Bringing Michkov over early could accelerate the rebuild.

2) Leaving him in Russia for another year helps with the tank this year and essentially extends his cheap ELC an extra year, as the Flyers are unlikely to compete for a Cup in the next few years.

3) The constantly shifting political landscape in Russia leads to concerns that players could be blocked from coming over at some point. So, better to get him over ASAP.

All valid points. #3 supersedes the other two for me. While I’m on Team Tank, no way I would have left him in Russia for another year. Another league/country? Different story.
- Quetzalcoatl

The political risk is overblown. By a lot. It really isn’t much of a factor at all.

It's not more hyperbole. You can keep throwing that comment at me all you want but you're only using it because you know you're wrong.


- Hextall271

Proof of the hyperbole that you've been posting and examples from just today.

"Oh yeah. Unless you say, I hate everything about this team, they have no good players (MM doesn't count because he's wasted here and should have stayed in Russia), haven't been relevant since 1975, and hope they lose every game then you'll get a predictable reaction."

"I know you love to criticize every little thing the org does, but this clearly wasn't a mistake to bring him over. Sometimes the comments I read on here are beyond absurd"

Clearly, I did not state that bringing over Michkov was a mistake. I simply posted that the Flyers would've benefitted if he had stayed in Russia. No mention of it being a bad decision or a mistake by the Flyers.

Clearly, I'm not wrong in stating that you have been posting hyperbole.

If anything, your comments on your disdain for the front office reach the height of hyperbole. It's over the top and unbalanced. Nothing they do can ever be correct and if it was, you wouldn't admit it.


- Hextall271

Your responses to posts criticizing the Flyers is hyperbole or voicing displeasure at it. You simply just don't like it. Rather than addressing the merits of the viewpoints offered in criticism. Why is that? My opinion on the Flyers current management and in the recent past is unbalanced because of their decision making and performance. They're an incompetently run organization and one of the worst run teams in the NHL, You're certainly welcome to challenge the opinions I offer and show how I'm wrong. If you want to have blind optimism unsupported by the facts, that is your choice. However if you misrepresent and post hyperbole on opinions offered by others contrary to yours. Expect pushback.

Again, with the instability in the world related to Russia, what if we left him over there. Then either a global conflict breaks out or for some other reason, he can't come over at all? Then the asset is lost and you'd be calling them out for not taking action to get him over here. We saw something happen with Feds. Perhaps you forgot about it.


- Hextall271

Again, when Michkov was drafted, many went on and on about the pick and how there was a fear that he would never come over. It turned out to be unfounded. Myself and others posted that we weren't worried about it. We were right. Even if we acknowledge that issue, does that erase the potential benefits to the Flyers if he had stayed longer in the KHL? No, it doesn't! Does it make the comment have ZERO logic behind it? No, of course there are logical reasons that could've benefitted the Flyers. As I posted. As far as Fedotov, a completely different situation. He didn't follow the rules and he caused his own issue. That has been explained umpteen times.

It's logic calling you out for your absurdity but there is no sense discussing anything with you because we all know that you're never wrong. Absurdity.
- Hextall271

You haven't made a single statement pointing out how anything I posted i absurd. It is absent from your comments

The political risk is overblown. By a lot. It really isn’t much of a factor at all.
- StepfordSam

I agree and thought the same thing when he was drafted. If situation in the world gets to that point, there won't be any hockey played anyways and we'll have far more to worry about. If the US gets in a major conflict with Russia. Any Russian citizens in the US on any kind of visa, will be expelled from the country.

The political risk is overblown. By a lot. It really isn’t much of a factor at all.
- StepfordSam

Oh, now you're a geopolitical genius too? Just can't make this stuff up. I'm sure you have your finger on the pulse of Ukraine and Russia. Eh what?

Oh, now you're a geopolitical genius too? Just can't make this stuff up. I'm sure you have your finger on the pulse of Ukraine and Russia. Eh what?
- Phillywhiteout

can you name any Russian players that have been denied nhl access for geopolitical reasons.

They're an incompetently run organization and one of the worst run teams in the NHL, You're certainly welcome to challenge the opinions I offer and show how I'm wrong.
- MJL

I will challenge this statement right now. On what basis can you state the Flyers, today, are one of the worst run teams in the NHL? I don't care about 10 yesars ago or even 5 years ago. I am talking about right now.

I will challenge this statement right now. On what basis can you state the Flyers, today, are one of the worst run teams in the NHL? I don't care about 10 yesars ago or even 5 years ago. I am talking about right now.
- jd250

First of all, it needs to be explained to you what challenging a statement actually is. It's not asking a question on why a statement is made or requiring someone to elaborate.. Challenging a statement would be replying back on why you think it's wrong. Put some skin in the game. This should be fun.

I will challenge this statement right now. On what basis can you state the Flyers, today, are one of the worst run teams in the NHL? I don't care about 10 yesars ago or even 5 years ago. I am talking about right now.
- jd250

extending ns, rp and gh for instead of dealing them at the appropriate deadlines

The cg situation

drafting a plug in the 2nd round

Keeping jl on the roster then scratching him

Not trading The Room™ due to intangibles

I will challenge this statement right now. On what basis can you state the Flyers, today, are one of the worst run teams in the NHL? I don't care about 10 yesars ago or even 5 years ago. I am talking about right now.
- jd250

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The here and now would say yes.

Claude coming back to Philly would be the dumbest thing the Flyers could do. The Flyers need to look forward, not backwards. It's about getting a 1C and 1D, not living in the past.
- jd250

Claude Giroux is one of my favorite players of all time. I want him to retire as a Flyer but I do not want him to play again for the Flyers. That ship has sailed in my opinion.

I also agree bringing in a player like Giroux is not what the Flyers need.

I will challenge this statement right now. On what basis can you state the Flyers, today, are one of the worst run teams in the NHL? I don't care about 10 yesars ago or even 5 years ago. I am talking about right now.
- jd250

What does this front office do better than other front offices? I could not come up with anything.

What has changed from 5-10 years ago? Not a whole lot.

I do not see how you could rank this front office outside of the bottom third of the league.

First of all, it needs to be explained to you what challenging a statement actually is. It's not asking a question on why a statement is made or requiring someone to elaborate.. Challenging a statement would be replying back on why you think it's wrong. Put some skin in the game. This should be fun.
- MJL

You posted a statement with no evidence to support it, however you are now asking me to provide evidence to the statement I made? I don't have the time to go over every single transaction and change in the organization since Briere, Jones and Hilfery took over. I will only say I see no evidence that the job they are doing is substandard compared to other NHL organizations

You posted a statement with no evidence to support it, however you are now asking me to provide evidence to the statement I made? I don't have the time to go over every single transaction and change in the organization since Briere, Jones and Hilfery took over. I will only say I see no evidence that the job they are doing is substandard compared to other NHL organizations
- jd250

No, I'm not asking you to do anything. I'm explaining to you what actually challenging a statement is. What you did was not challenging a statement but putting the onus on someone else. Tell me why I'm wrong, then you would be actually challenging and then we can discuss. If you have the time.

What does this front office do better than other front offices? I could not come up with anything.

What has changed from 5-10 years ago? Not a whole lot.

I do not see how you could rank this front office outside of the bottom third of the league.
- mickel25

Hmm .. well let's compare it to the Bruins front office. They just grossly overpaid for an unproven goalie, after they traded away a Vezina winning goalie. And what's worse, they made the contract negotiations public further alienating the team from that goalie. The Bruins have one of the lowest rated farm systems in the entire league and no real draft capital coming to rebuild it. They just fired a head coach after a little over two seasons who was a Jack Adams award winner and lead the team to the best regular season in NHL history, after they could not extend him and made him a lame duck coach. That same coach got hired 5 days later by St Louis! And we can always go back to the last time the Bruins actually had draft picks, which was the 2015 draft, the Bruins squandered 3 first round picks on Jakub Zboril, Jake DeBrusk, and Zachary Senyshyn while all star level players like Barzel, Connor, TK, Boeser and Chabot were all on the board.

So yes, it can get a lot worse.

Hmm .. well let's compare it to the Bruins front office. They just grossly overpaid for an unproven goalie, after they traded away a Vezina winning goalie. And what's worse, they made the contract negotiations public further alienating the team from that goalie. The Bruins have one of the lowest rated farm systems in the entire league and no real draft capital coming to rebuild it. They just fired a head coach after a little over two seasons who was a Jack Adams award winner and lead the team to the best regular season in NHL history, after they could not extend him and made him a lame duck coach. That same coach got hired 5 days later by St Louis! And we can always go back to the last time the Bruins actually had draft picks, which was the 2015 draft, the Bruins squandered 3 first round picks on Jakub Zboril, Jake DeBrusk, and Zachary Senyshyn while all star level players like Barzel, Connor, TK, Boeser and Chabot were all on the board.

So yes, it can get a lot worse.
- jd250

The Bruins didn't overpay for Swayman and he was not unproven. The had to choose between the two and they chose the younger player. Teams tend to have lower rated prospect bases when they've been at the top of the league as a cup contender. If you're stating that it was a mistake to fire Montgomery. I agree with you.

How are the Bruins a lot worse when they've recently won the Presidents Cup and have been legitimate cup contenders? That doesn't make sense.