So we added Smith and Borgen

Got rid of Trouba Goodrow Kakko

And we’re supposed to be a better team?
- nyrangers9479

Goodrow was waived because his $3.641 million cap hit was high for what he provided. He was great in the playoffs and a leader in the room, We knew he would be missed but that cap high was hit for what he provided.

Trouba was a shell of what he was and they needed to be at an $8 mil cap hit for this year and next year. Nearly everyone wanted him gone, so having Monday Morning QB is a smidge unfair.

No, they aren't better. But the point of the Trouba deal was to remove what was creating a leadership issue on the team. But it's gotta worse and the way each was handled created the challenges in the room.

Plus, you are judging the deals in the narrow prism. Have to wait until we see how the savings are utilized and what else comes in for Borgen and the picks.

Goodrow was waived because his $3.641 million cap hit was high for what he provided. He was great in the playoffs and a leader in the room, We knew he would be missed but that cap high was hit for what he provided.

Trouba was a shell of what he was and they needed to be at an $8 mil cap hit for this year and next year. Nearly everyone wanted him gone, so having Monday Morning QB is a smidge unfair.

No, they aren't better. But the point of the Trouba deal was to remove what was creating a leadership issue on the team. But it's gotta worse and the way each was handled created the challenges in the room.
- airjan23

Yea these moves weren’t made to get better right now. It’s the start of the changing of the guard process that may take time

Have this funny feeling with all this cap space opening up you can’t help but think they are going to make a massive run for Rantanen.
- Awolff9

Is he a UFA?

Is he a UFA?
- TPC

Yes and one of my favorite players in the league. But if Landeskog can't return, that's $7 mil in savings annually for Colorado

Yes and one of my favorite players in the league. But if Landeskog can't return, that's $7 mil in savings annually for Colorado
- airjan23

I’m down for it

Panarin, Trocheck, LAF, Cuylle, Berard, Carrick, Fox, Schneider and Shesty are the only players Id keep and burn the rest of it down.
- aecliptic

Can I ask why? What’s the point? They can get a lot back for Fox and think about it if they retained half of his contract at the same time how mich they could get.

That how this rebuild should start, Fox is the best piece to trade (most valuable). And it’ll make us even worse (which is good).

They have a real shot at Hagens here if this continues

Btw wtf happen to this site for so long? Man I thought I’d never get yelled at again

Goodrow was waived because his $3.641 million cap hit was high for what he provided. He was great in the playoffs and a leader in the room, We knew he would be missed but that cap high was hit for what he provided.

Trouba was a shell of what he was and they needed to be at an $8 mil cap hit for this year and next year. Nearly everyone wanted him gone, so having Monday Morning QB is a smidge unfair.

No, they aren't better. But the point of the Trouba deal was to remove what was creating a leadership issue on the team. But it's gotta worse and the way each was handled created the challenges in the room.

Plus, you are judging the deals in the narrow prism. Have to wait until we see how the savings are utilized and what else comes in for Borgen and the picks.
- airjan23

We waived players and forced trades to shed contracts, and then did what exactly with he money?? The season is over, say what u want, there’s no coming back from this this year. Drury handled things terribly. The Kakko trade was just icing on the cake. What’s the point of shedding salary if u do nothing with it? He’s an idiot.

We waived players and forced trades to shed contracts, and then did what exactly with he money?? The season is over, say what u want, there’s no coming back from this this year. Drury handled things terribly. The Kakko trade was just icing on the cake. What’s the point of shedding salary if u do nothing with it? He’s an idiot.
- nyrangers9479

They screwed up with Kakko not trading him sooner. He’s a bust as far as top 5OA guys go. He’s a middle 6 winger which basically grow on trees

I’m sure you’ll never let this one go tho. Watch, Kakko is going back to Finland next year, like Kravtsov did with motha Russia. Not GM is going to give a raise based potential that hasn’t been reached in 6 god damn hockey seasons. Gorton (frank)ed up the rebuild imo.

He’s not that young, he’s 28 and isn’t that good .
- nyrangers9479

He’s what you jizz over lol

Can I ask why? What’s the point? They can get a lot back for Fox and think about it if they retained half of his contract at the same time how mich they could get.

That how this rebuild should start, Fox is the best piece to trade (most valuable). And it’ll make us even worse (which is good).

They have a real shot at Hagens here if this continues
- Slimtj100

I said in another post that I think they need to shut down Fox for the rest of the year so that he can get 100% healthy. Since the injury he's not been himself. The elite skating is not there and its such an important part of his game. Where players like Kakko may grow on trees, players like Fox do not. Which to your point, yes Fox is a great trade asset.

The thing is, I dont think this team is far off, however management put their trust in the wrong players.

Hypothetically speaking, lets say we trade Kreider and Mika... say the JT Miller stuff is true and the Rangers do eventually make a trade for him. Instantly completely new look top 6 with Cuylle and Miller, throw pesky Berard on there, you have quite an aggressive and physical line.

It doesnt fix our problems on defense, however maybe there are some good but maligned defensemen out there on bad teams that could be a fit here.

This would be my plan of attack..100% rebuild. Even if they did “retool”, no one is beating the devils for the next decade so what’s the point of even trying??

Trade Fox is numero uno imo. Half retained for the best possible return. Get a teams best D prospect and their 1st rder

Trade Kreider and let him hand pick where he wants to go. It doesn’t really matter what they get, I’d take a second rd pick and a prospect

Trade Panarin with his blessing. That’s difficult but he’d probably be open to it as long as they can win. Half retained him if need be

Buyout Zib if he refuses to be traded. The buyout? who cares, we’ll suck for the duration of it anyway and will need to hit the cap floor probably

I’d be open to keeping Trocheck and making him captain. Miller idk what to do, the raw talent leans me to keep him but he must get better immediately

Don’t sign any FAs until this young core as reached its full potential.

Build around Cuylle, Schneider, Jones, Shesty, Perrault, Berard, Sykora and Othmann. Edstrom Rempe and Roobreock too

They need d prospects above anything else

It’s gonna take awhile but this is a correct rebuild imo

I said in another post that I think they need to shut down Fox for the rest of the year so that he can get 100% healthy. Since the injury he's not been himself. The elite skating is not there and its such an important part of his game. Where players like Kakko may grow on trees, players like Fox do not. Which to your point, yes Fox is a great trade asset.

The thing is, I dont think this team is far off, however management put their trust in the wrong players.

Hypothetically speaking, lets say we trade Kreider and Mika... say the JT Miller stuff is true and the Rangers do eventually make a trade for him. Instantly completely new look top 6 with Cuylle and Miller, throw pesky Berard on there, you have quite an aggressive and physical line.

It doesnt fix our problems on defense, however maybe there are some good but maligned defensemen out there on bad teams that could be a fit here.
- aecliptic

I think he’s not gonna get any better. I think he peaked the last few years. He’s already slowing down. I do think shutting him down isn’t the worst idea if you wanted to do that

This would be my plan of attack..100% rebuild. Even if they did “retool”, no one is beating the devils for the next decade so what’s the point of even trying??

Trade Fox is numero uno imo. Half retained for the best possible return. Get a teams best D prospect and their 1st rder

Trade Kreider and let him hand pick where he wants to go. It doesn’t really matter what they get, I’d take a second rd pick and a prospect

Trade Panarin with his blessing. That’s difficult but he’d probably be open to it as long as they can win. Half retained him if need be

Buyout Zib if he refuses to be traded. The buyout? who cares, we’ll suck for the duration of it anyway and will need to hit the cap floor probably

Don’t sign any FAs until this young core as reached its full potential.

Build around Cuylle, Schneider, Jones, Shesty, Perrault, Berard, Sykora and Othmann. Edstrom Rempe and Roobreock too

They need d prospects above anything else

It’s gonna take awhile but this is a correct rebuild imo
- Slimtj100

I think Tom just pulled out some lotion and tissue paper.

But, I would argue our biggest trade chip is Shesty, I think he is still very much tradeable.

I think Tom just pulled out some lotion and tissue paper.

But, I would argue our biggest trade chip is Shesty, I think he is still very much tradeable.
- aecliptic

Yes he did!! Lmao

It’s clear as day now. The Devils mainly have leaned me this way unfortunately. They’re loaded

Trading Shesty would have to be this year no? Doesn’t he have clauses next year now? I hadn’t even considered that because he just signed. He may not want to play in front of this mess

Yes he did!! Lmao

It’s clear as day now. The Devils mainly have leaned me this way unfortunately. They’re loaded
- Slimtj100

Really makes me wonder what this team would look like had Davidson never been fired. Im curious what his outlook was for the team.

Yes he did!! Lmao

It’s clear as day now. The Devils mainly have leaned me this way unfortunately. They’re loaded

Trading Shesty would have to be this year no? Doesn’t he have clauses next year now? I hadn’t even considered that because he just signed. He may not want to play in front of this mess
- Slimtj100

He does have a NTC with his current contract, so he does have some say. Turns into a NMC with the new contract.

Really makes me wonder what this team would look like had Davidson never been fired. Im curious what his outlook was for the team.
- aecliptic

I’ve soured on Gorton. Those host of first rounders he got have really been, collectively, pretty bad

Although, it’s probably Gordie Clark to blame. JD got the shaft tho, he should still be here

This would be my plan of attack..100% rebuild. Even if they did “retool”, no one is beating the devils for the next decade so what’s the point of even trying??

Trade Fox is numero uno imo. Half retained for the best possible return. Get a teams best D prospect and their 1st rder

Trade Kreider and let him hand pick where he wants to go. It doesn’t really matter what they get, I’d take a second rd pick and a prospect

Trade Panarin with his blessing. That’s difficult but he’d probably be open to it as long as they can win. Half retained him if need be

Buyout Zib if he refuses to be traded. The buyout? who cares, we’ll suck for the duration of it anyway and will need to hit the cap floor probably

I’d be open to keeping Trocheck and making him captain. Miller idk what to do, the raw talent leans me to keep him but he must get better immediately

Don’t sign any FAs until this young core as reached its full potential.

Build around Cuylle, Schneider, Jones, Shesty, Perrault, Berard, Sykora and Othmann. Edstrom Rempe and Roobreock too

They need d prospects above anything else

It’s gonna take awhile but this is a correct rebuild imo
- Slimtj100

Rangers fans were willing to put up with one rebuild because they had an extended period of success plus they trusted Gorton and JD. That trust does not exist with Drury and two ECF in three years may not be a long enough period to buy cash equity. Plus do you think Dolan will be on board with this? Maybe if the Knicks win the title, he will be.

Rangers fans were willing to put up with one rebuild because they had an extended period of success plus they trusted Gorton and JD. That trust does not exist with Drury and two ECF in three years may not be a long enough period to buy cash equity. Plus do you think Dolan will be on board with this? Maybe if the Knicks win the title, he will be.
- airjan23

I don’t think they have a choice 🤷🏻‍♂️we suck Jan lol they could hire Houdini to be coach and GM and he couldn’t beat the devils.

IMO, it would be criminal to give this core another chance with another coach. They ain’t got what it takes. They were close but it ain’t happening

This would be my plan of attack..100% rebuild. Even if they did “retool”, no one is beating the devils for the next decade so what’s the point of even trying??

Trade Fox is numero uno imo. Half retained for the best possible return. Get a teams best D prospect and their 1st rder

Trade Kreider and let him hand pick where he wants to go. It doesn’t really matter what they get, I’d take a second rd pick and a prospect

Trade Panarin with his blessing. That’s difficult but he’d probably be open to it as long as they can win. Half retained him if need be

Buyout Zib if he refuses to be traded. The buyout? who cares, we’ll suck for the duration of it anyway and will need to hit the cap floor probably

I’d be open to keeping Trocheck and making him captain. Miller idk what to do, the raw talent leans me to keep him but he must get better immediately

Don’t sign any FAs until this young core as reached its full potential.

Build around Cuylle, Schneider, Jones, Shesty, Perrault, Berard, Sykora and Othmann. Edstrom Rempe and Roobreock too

They need d prospects above anything else

It’s gonna take awhile but this is a correct rebuild imo
- Slimtj100

You want to rebuild for 6 seasons ?

Do you want to have an argument here or do you actually think this makes sense lol

You want to rebuild for 6 seasons ?
- picklerick

Yea I don’t think they have a choice. They had their chance two years ago and last year. It was a short window and now this core is completely disinterested on top of it. The team is tainted and dysfunctional. They need to clean house

It’s definitely gonna suck. I’m down to hire a new GM if that’s what need to happen

They need top 5 picks again, and better scouting

Rantanen is not coming here. He’s going to play with Mack and Makar. These guys always resign. Why would he come here to play with chytil or Mika or Trocheck as his center

Yea I don’t think they have a choice. They had their chance two years ago and last year. It was a short window and now this core is completely disinterested on top of it. The team is tainted and dysfunctional. They need to clean house

It’s definitely gonna suck. I’m down to hire a new GM if that’s what need to happen

They need top 5 picks again, and better scouting
- Slimtj100

The two possibilities are they mortgage more of the future to try and get back into it this season, which should be punishable by death, or they punt on this season, trade pieces for assets, and try and reload in the offseason

The two possibilities are they mortgage more of the future to try and get back into it this season, which should be punishable by death, or they punt on this season, trade pieces for assets, and try and reload in the offseason
- picklerick

Yea agree.

Trading Fox is the best thing they could do and most profitable imo. I know it’s crazy to do, but if you really think about it, it’s the best possible return to get from a team to speed it up. I love Fox and it’s nothing against him, but it’s a smart decision. Things have changed in a big way this year unfortunately

The best 3 teams in the NHL might be in the metro and those teams aren’t going anywhere for at least 5 years. Definitely not the canes or devils, caps may take a step back eventually