I think there is room for some fair and objective criticism towards Gauthier for not wanting to play for the Flyers but stating that he hid behind mommy and daddy and his agent is not that. Players hire agents for a reason and that's to handle issues like talking to teams on contracts and or trade demands etc. Gauthier and his agent went basically silent on the matter after initial statements. I don't see how that is going scorched earth.
- MJL

It's scorched Earth because clearly he took not being offered a chance to burn the 1st year of his ELC so personally that he picked up his marbles and stormed home. In that May meeting, he could have simply stated he was very disappointed that Briere did not let him burn the first year and he wanted an explanation. And then tell Briere, hey, I am willing to put that in the past and sign the contract, but we still want my 1st year burned. Briere and Jones have shown they are willing to negotiate terms with players. Kolosov is a great example of that. So is Fedotov. So IMO Quitter did go scorched Earth on the Flyers, which was completely unfair. Give Briere a chance to make it right and move on with a great organization where he had all the opportunity to develop as a player.

There is no evidence to support that claim. You continue to have extreme biases not supported by any reasonable facts.
- MJL

And there is no evidence to support your claims either. Just pure speculation in your part that supports your narrative that every thing the Flyers do is wrong.

It's scorched Earth because clearly he took not being offered a chance to burn the 1st year of his ELC so personally that he picked up his marbles and stormed home. In that May meeting, he could have simply stated he was very disappointed that Briere did not let him burn the first year and he wanted an explanation. And then tell Briere, hey, I am willing to put that in the past and sign the contract, but we still want my 1st year burned. Briere and Jones have shown they are willing to negotiate terms with players. Kolosov is a great example of that. So is Fedotov. So IMO Quitter did go scorched Earth on the Flyers, which was completely unfair. Give Briere a chance to make it right and move on with a great organization where he had all the opportunity to develop as a player.
- jd250

Let's start with some facts. Once the season was over, which it was in May. The opportunity to burn the first year of the ELC was gone. You can't just say you want it burned. You actually have to sign the contract during that season for that to occur. Gauthier was well within his rights to not want to play for the Flyers. Briere and the Flyers royally screwed up and they are far from a great organization. They are one of the worst run organizations in the NHL

If it were a one time occurance I would say you are right. But it's not. It's a pattern with this kid. Can't keep his mouth shut. Clearly overreacts to every situation. He is the definition of entitled. I guarantee you he will never reach his potential as a player.
- jd250

He does seem like a cocky Richard. It was one of the things that made me hopeful about the kid. Too many nice guys on this team.

And there is no evidence to support your claims either. Just pure speculation in your part that supports your narrative that every thing the Flyers do is wrong.
- jd250

You're wrong. Everything I have said that happened in the Gauthier situation is supported by numerous reliable sources. You live in fantasy land.

Hilarious. You actually believe that Tortorella's incessant line changing has any impact on a player. Only in your world is a 20 goal scorer an ok player with ok skill.
- MJL

The Flyers can trip over players in this league that can score 20 goals. I think you need to be objective here and just say you were wrong about him. I told you years ago I needed to see more and I wasn't convinced, and you bashed me for it. Clearly I was right about him. Farabee does nothing spectacular. Not a great skater and can't blow by people ike Tippet. Does not have a great shot like Foerster. Doesn't have great stick handling capability like Frost. Doesn't see the ice all that great like Michkov. He is just what he is showing he is, a solid 3rd line winger.

Let's start with some facts. Once the season was over, which it was in May. The opportunity to burn the first year of the ELC was gone. You can't just say you want it burned. You actually have to sign the contract during that season for that to occur. Gauthier was well within his rights to not want to play for the Flyers. Briere and the Flyers royally screwed up and they are far from a great organization. They are one of the worst run organizations in the NHL
- MJL

Where are the facts and reliable sources to back up this false claim?

The Flyers can trip over players in this league that can score 20 goals. I think you need to be objective here and just say you were wrong about him. I told you years ago I needed to see more and I wasn't convinced, and you bashed me for it. Clearly I was right about him. Farabee does nothing spectacular. Not a great skater and can't blow by people ike Tippet. Does not have a great shot like Foerster. Doesn't have great stick handling capability like Frost. Doesn't see the ice all that great like Michkov. He is just what he is showing he is, a solid 3rd line winger.
- jd250

No team can trip over players in the league that can score 20 goals. That is an unintelligent statement. I stopped reading after that first sentence. It lacks simple common sense.

You're wrong. Everything I have said that happened in the Gauthier situation is supported by numerous reliable sources. You live in fantasy land.
- MJL

There are no sources. It's all specualtion. Neither side has spoke out about what really happened. Quitter can apaprently only put circles on calendars, but can't face the music and confirm or deny the speculative reports that are out there.

Where are the facts and reliable sources to back up this false claim?
- jd250

Simply review their actions and moves over the last 14 seasons. They have been irrelevant and a complete non factor in the NHL 14 years and counting.

You're drastically and ridiculously overreacting to a simple cliche stated to say that he was looking forward to the game.
- MJL

When did he say the quote about the game being circled? Wasn't it right after he was traded to Anaheim?

The game probably does mean a lot to him today. He is going to try and prove he was worthy, and I expect his best game of the season today. He has every right to be upset with the smear campaign that happened after the trade. Briere and Co. should have just taken the high road. State they were concerned about signing him, and felt the chance to move on was best. He is not the only Flyer to ever play dirty. The beloved Leclair sat out training camp to get his contract rewritten while still under contract. Different standards for different players I guess.

There are no sources. It's all specualtion. Neither side has spoke out about what really happened. Quitter can apaprently only put circles on calendars, but can't face the music and confirm or deny the speculative reports that are out there.
- jd250

Yes there is. It has been well documented by reliable sources of what went on. We know many of the facts of what went on that are not speculation.

Yes there is. It has been well documented by reliable sources of what went on. We know many of the facts of what went on that are not speculation.
- MJL

Here is my proof. Here is a recent article from June that shows everything that has been reported is nothing more than theory and speculation:

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...-gauthier-and-the-flyers/

Where is your proof that what you are saying is actual fact?

I honestly can't believe that folks are still wasting this much time on Cutter. Hasn't this already been discussed like 450,000 times on here? Who cares at this point? He's gone! Now I hope he falls on his face simply cause he is no longer a Flyer. Very paranoid though that the Flyguys got the shaft in this trade for Drysdale. Other than skating, I see nothing with this guy other than the fact that he is only 22 and there still might be hope.

When did he say the quote about the game being circled? Wasn't it right after he was traded to Anaheim?

The game probably does mean a lot to him today. He is going to try and prove he was worthy, and I expect his best game of the season today. He has every right to be upset with the smear campaign that happened after the trade. Briere and Co. should have just taken the high road. State they were concerned about signing him, and felt the chance to move on was best. He is not the only Flyer to ever play dirty. The beloved Leclair sat out training camp to get his contract rewritten while still under contract. Different standards for different players I guess.
- TheFreak

The Flyers have not smeared Quitter at all. Jones simply stated "If someone doesn't want to be a Flyer then he won't be a Flyer". Briere stated: "We tried several times to speak with Quitter to find out why, even flying to the World Championships to meet him in person and he refused to meet or speak with us", and Torts has stated: "I don't know Quitter from a hole in the wall and I want to talk about the player [Drysdale] that is coming here". So how is this smearing Quitter?

Was this blog locked for everyone last night? Any idea why?

What do you all think of the way Jett’s being used? Coach seems to feel he’s a defensive specialist only. Didn’t get any 3 on 3 time in OT. didn’t give him a shot in the shoot out even after scoring that nice breakaway shorty. Seem a bad move to me to not at least give him a go in the shoot out; especially when it went to a second round.

Quitter made a decision to refuse to play for the Flyers. He took a risk and got his way. Not drastically different from Michkov allegedly telling teams not to draft him because he wanted to be a Flyer.

We, as fans, have a right to root against Quitter. But don’t place all the blame on this guy. The Flyers apparently decided not to allow him to burn a year on his ELC, when, in fact, they’ve done it many times before and it’s a general practice of the entire NHL. Heck the Flyers did it with Kolosov (let him burn first year in Russia), and I believe they did it with Brink and with Cates (College). So it’s not a foreign concept. If the Flyers really only refused to burn the first year of Quitter’s just because, then shame on them for being hypocritical. If the Flyers truly believed he was not ready to play professional hockey, then shame on Quitter for not being professional about it. We will likely never know.

But to give this franchise the benefit of any doubt is a fool’s benefit. This team has squandered so much good will with its fans with all the lying and misinformation and mismanagement. This so-called “new era of orange” is the same as the old era of orange. Young players seem to reach a point and then stagnate… while inconsistency is the hallmark of young players, when does failure to developed these young players in to consistent players become a trend? Have the Flyers done right in developing Frost, Farrabee, Foerester, York, Drysdale, Brink? At what point are these players declared to have reached their actual value? At what point are these players going to be consistent? Heck, at what point does the front office decide they need to surround their elite 20 year old rookie with a supporting cast that will help him become everything he’s capable of?

I have little faith in this front office and until it actually changes all the issues above, they do not deserve the benefit of any doubt.

I honestly can't believe that folks are still wasting this much time on Cutter. Hasn't this already been discussed like 450,000 times on here? Who cares at this point? He's gone! Now I hope he falls on his face simply cause he is no longer a Flyer. Very paranoid though that the Flyguys got the shaft in this trade for Drysdale. Other than skating, I see nothing with this guy other than the fact that he is only 22 and there still might be hope.
- Phillywhiteout

Jamie Drysdale has only played 170 NHL games, and 123 of those games were played for the structureless Ducks. Defenseman typically take 200-300 NHL games before they become what they will ultimately be. It's simply too early to write this kid off, unless of course he can't stay on the ice.

Was this blog locked for everyone last night? Any idea why?

What do you all think of the way Jett’s being used? Coach seems to feel he’s a defensive specialist only. Didn’t get any 3 on 3 time in OT. didn’t give him a shot in the shoot out even after scoring that nice breakaway shorty. Seem d a bad move to me to not at least give him a go in the shoot out; especially when it went to a second round.
- Dkos

The one thing that stands out about Jett, is he seems to be the kind of self-motivated player that if the coach won’t give him the time, he’s gonna just take it. That breakaway goal was all him! Go Jett Go!

Here is my proof. Here is a recent article from June that shows everything that has been reported is nothing more than theory and speculation:

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...-gauthier-and-the-flyers/

Where is your proof that what you are saying is actual fact?
- jd250

There are many articles written on the situation. We know that Gauthier wanted to sign and burn off the year in the Spring of 23 when his NCAA season ended. We know the Flyers said no. We know the Flyers went back to Gauthier to sign him in May and Gauthier said no. We know all of this and you have even referenced that in previous posts. You continue to argue against known facts.

Was this blog locked for everyone last night? Any idea why?

What do you all think of the way Jett’s being used? Coach seems to feel he’s a defensive specialist only. Didn’t get any 3 on 3 time in OT. didn’t give him a shot in the shoot out even after scoring that nice breakaway shorty. Seem a bad move to me to not at least give him a go in the shoot out; especially when it went to a second round.
- Dkos

I don't like the way Jett is being used, but hey if he can help Canada medal being the Scott Laughton on the team, I am fine with that. He is only 18 years old, just being on the team and contributing is enough for now, but there is clearly more in there.

There are many articles written on the situation. We know that Gauthier wanted to sign and burn off the year in the Spring of 23 when his NCAA season ended. We know the Flyers said no. We know the Flyers went back to Gauthier to sign him in May and Gauthier said no. We know all of this and you have even referenced that in previous posts. You continue to argue against known facts.
- MJL

All speculation as the article I just presented from a reputable source has stated. Show me one article that states this claim is factual and confirmed by either side.

The Flyers have not smeared Quitter at all. Jones simply stated "If someone doesn't want to be a Flyer then he won't be a Flyer". Briere stated: "We tried several times to speak with Quitter to find out why, even flying to the World Championships to meet him in person and he refused to meet or speak with us", and Torts has stated: "I don't know Quitter from a hole in the wall and I want to talk about the player
- jd250[Drysdale] that is coming here". So how is this smearing Quitter?

Contradicting yourself. You just got done posting "everything that has been reported is nothing more than theory and speculation" Now here you are posting factual information. When it supports your narrative, there are facts. When it doesn't, it's just all speculation.

Quitter made a decision to refuse to play for the Flyers. He took a risk and got his way. Not drastically different from Michkov allegedly telling teams not to draft him because he wanted to be a Flyer.

We, as fans, have a right to root against Quitter. But don’t place all the blame on this guy. The Flyers apparently decided not to allow him to burn a year on his ELC, when, in fact, they’ve done it many times before and it’s a general practice of the entire NHL. Heck the Flyers did it with Kolosov (let him burn first year in Russia), and I believe they did it with Brink and with Cates (College). So it’s not a foreign concept. If the Flyers really only refused to burn the first year of Quitter’s just because, then shame on them for being hypocritical. If the Flyers truly believed he was not ready to play professional hockey, then shame on Quitter for not being professional about it. We will likely never know.

But to give this franchise the benefit of any doubt is a fool’s benefit. This team has squandered so much good will with its fans with all the lying and misinformation and mismanagement. This so-called “new era of orange” is the same as the old era of orange. Young players seem to reach a point and then stagnate… while inconsistency is the hallmark of young players, when does failure to developed these young players in to consistent players become a trend? Have the Flyers done right in developing Frost, Farrabee, Foerester, York, Drysdale, Brink? At what point are these players declared to have reached their actual value? At what point are these players going to be consistent? Heck, at what point does the front office decide they need to surround their elite 20 year old rookie with a supporting cast that will help him become everything he’s capable of?

I have little faith in this front office and until it actually changes all the issues above, they do not deserve the benefit of any doubt.
- mikeyo27

Well said. I was pissed when the news came out that he refused to play here, but after I thought about it a bit I came to the same conclusion. This team does not deserve the benefit of doubt.

The one thing that stands out about Jett, is he seems to be the kind of self-motivated player that if the coach won’t give him the time, he’s gonna just take it. That breakaway goal was all him! Go Jett Go!
- mikeyo27

It was a nice goal, but why the goalie didn't come out and play the puck was puzzling to me. Maybe felt with Jett's speed it was too risky.