When Gauthier was on the ice, the Ducks controlled play. He was second on their team in individual scoring chances. He had a xGF% of 75.97%. When he was on the ice, the Ducks had more scoring chances and high danger chances.
- MJL

Sure if the stats say that…..but I didn’t see a guy that’s a factor. Not at this point…I noticed very little of his game. Now in the worlds a couple years ago I saw a guy that shot the puck…was dangerous inside the d zone and was a factor. I still think he has a chance to be very good…but he’s not there yet.

Sure if the stats say that…..but I didn’t see a guy that’s a factor. Not at this point…I noticed very little of his game. Now in the worlds a couple years ago I saw a guy that shot the puck…was dangerous inside the d zone and was a factor. I still think he has a chance to be very good…but he’s not there yet.
- landros 2

For most rookies its a series of building blocks. The underlying numbers show the building of a foundation in play. It comes in steps. When you're on the ice and your team has control of play, that's a good thing. From there in time and development, comes making a bigger impact and being more of a factor. It's a developmental process. Most fans only see the highlights and plays that really stand out.

Power forwards take a bit longer and Gauthier was always gonna have to make a ton of adjustments as a pro, so it's too soon to judge him.

Drysdale on the other hand... still looks like a lost cause.
- Tomahawk

Kind of interesting how Drysdale and Sanderson were a tossup at the draft but it’s easy to say which one you’d want now.

Kind of interesting how Drysdale and Sanderson were a tossup at the draft but it’s easy to say which one you’d want now.
- Minnyhock

Drysdale was fine. 17:03 minutes and one shot on goal.

I think long run Gauthier will be better, and we may end up regretting trading him for Drysdale, but the trade is still young and we will see. And I don't mean regret letting him go, but what we got in return. If he didn't want to be here I am glad he is gone, but if Drysdale doesn't pan out it's a waste..

big statement game coming out of the xmas break.

For most rookies its a series of building blocks. The underlying numbers show the building of a foundation in play. It comes in steps. When you're on the ice and your team has control of play, that's a good thing. From there in time and development, comes making a bigger impact and being more of a factor. It's a developmental process. Most fans only see the highlights and plays that really stand out.
- MJL

Gauthier was a complete non factor in this game. The stats you are quoting had more to do with his line mates and situations versus something special Gauthier did. Anyone watching the game could see he was pretty much invisible out there. You spewed the same crap about Frost, and look where we are with him. Building blocks do not come from phony stats like expected goals, they come from seeing him actually winning battles, getting to the dirty areas of the ice and creating scoring chances. Two shots on goal in the game is not a building block.

Gauthier played a solid game. Just like he was at BC? To the tune of being a Hobey Baker finalist?
- MJL

Yup you just keep pumping this stats just like you did with Frost and Farabee

Gauthier was a complete non factor in this game. The stats you are quoting had more to do with his line mates and situations versus something special Gauthier did. Anyone watching the game could see he was pretty much invisible out there. You spewed the same crap about Frost, and look where we are with him. Building blocks do not come from phony stats like expected goals, they come from seeing him actually winning battles, getting the dirty areas off the ice and creating scoring chances. Two shots on goal in the game is not a building block.
- jd250

You're incorrect. So much so that the only argument you can make are fallacies such as "anyone watching", which you repeatedly do because you can't stand on your own. Bringing other players that are irrelevant to the discussion such as Frost or Hextall. In a childish attempt to try and get at me. As well as using the same cliches and talking points that you use routinely. Not to mention that you yourself have used expected goals and stated a number of times that it is the only advanced stat that you believe in and like to use. In closing, your post is absent of any fact or intelligence and simply reinforces your biases and complete inability to assess anything in the game of hockey accurately.

Yup you just keep pumping this state just like you do with Frost and Farabee
- jd250

I mean how can you be wrong? You keep stating that he was average and played just like he did in BC. When the entire rest of the hockey world saw him as one of the 3 best players in all of collegiate hockey. Who is right? Facts don't mean anything to you. Only fantasy.

I thought he was invisible. Like a lot of rookie players….he was not a factor in the game. To be fair I didn’t think Michkov did a lot. That’s Rookies…. Up and down.
- landros 2

Gauthier was invisible, only if you watch the game on planet Delusional did you believe Gauthier had a solid game.

As for Michkov there is something very wrong with him right now. Maybe it’s the schedule as Torts suggested, but whatever it is he needs to sit a game or two and work it out. He is a complete shell of his earlier self out there.

Gauthier was invisible, only if you watch the game on planet Delusional did you believe Gauthier had a solid game.

As for Michkov there is something very wrong with him right now. Maybe it’s the schedule as Torts suggested, but whatever it is he needs to sit a game or two and work it out. He is a complete shell of his earlier self out there.
- jd250

There is nothing wrong with Michkov other than the normal growing pains that come with being a very young NHL players. He doesn't need to sit, he needs to play more. The thing that needs to happen the most is the coach needs to get his head out of his ass.

I mean how can you be wrong? You keep stating that he was average and played just like he did in BC. When the entire rest of the hockey world saw him as one of the 3 best players in all of collegiate hockey. Who is right? Facts don't mean anything to you. Only fantasy.
- MJL

No, I said that Gautier was not the best player on his team, but I also said he was a good player. I watched the game sometimes with an NHL scout so yes I know what I’m talking about. Hoby Baker finalist or not. He’s a perimeter player with a good shot that gets blocked an awful lot. He is not as center which is why the Ducks have already moved him back to wing. Time will prove me right just as it has with Frost and Farabee.

There is nothing wrong with Michkov other than the normal growing pains that come with being a very young NHL players. He doesn't need to sit, he needs to play more. The thing that needs to happen the most is the coach needs to get his head out of his ass.
- MJL

He cannot play more. He can’t even keep up with the play. He’s not fighting for pucks and is avoiding contact. He looks slower out there also. Something is not right.

He cannot play more. He can’t even keep up with the play. He’s not fighting for pucks and is avoiding contact. He looks slower out there also. Something is not right.
- jd250

Yeah. He’s got the wrong coach on a bad team.

No, I said that Gautier was not the best player on his team, but I also said he was a good player. I watched the game sometimes with an NHL scout so yes I know what I’m talking about. Hoby Baker finalist or not. He’s a perimeter player with a good shot that gets blocked an awful lot. He is not as center which is why the Ducks have already moved him back to wing. Time will prove me right just as it has with Frost and Farabee.
- jd250

You replied "just like he was at BC" to a poster who criticized Gauthier. You don't realize how foolish you look when you post that you watched the game sometimes with an NHL scouts, do you? You don't know what a fallacy is, do you? History of your posting tells us whether you know what you're talking about.

such a bland boring game between 2 bad teams. something seems wrong with the ducks, much like buffalo.

you have a coach who is alienating the franchise golden goose. too lazy to look wonder how many minutes a night Bedard and Celebrini play.

Love seeing all the commercials about culture this culture that. Guess when you can't sell the talent you have to sell something.

I do not see much progress with the on-ice product. Who has taken a step forward and playing above grade?

Wallowing in mediocrity at best. with really no end in sight.

He cannot play more. He can’t even keep up with the play. He’s not fighting for pucks and is avoiding contact. He looks slower out there also. Something is not right.
- jd250

think maybe the coach has something to do with his not so good play lately?

He cannot play more. He can’t even keep up with the play. He’s not fighting for pucks and is avoiding contact. He looks slower out there also. Something is not right.
- jd250

Yes, he can play more. I'm going to tell you what is wrong with Michkov. He had a few subpar games. The reaction of the coach was to stifle him further. Try to teach him to play not the right way, but the Tortorella way. Is now taking away his opportunity and is in the process of trying to impede what was a promising rookie season. The same way he has done with many other players. Other than instilling a basic structure, Tortorella has no clue of how to actually coach. How to coach a young player through his struggles. The only thing he knows is take away ice time, demote to a lower line, then scratch. Sapping a young players confidence. He only knows how to be a hammer and Michkov is his current nail.

Yes, he can play more. I'm going to tell you what is wrong with Michkov. He had a few subpar games. The reaction of the coach was to stifle him further. Try to teach him to play not the right way, but the Tortorella way. Is now taking away his opportunity and is in the process of trying to impede what was a promising rookie season. The same way he has done with many other players. Other than instilling a basic structure, Tortorella has no clue of how to actually coach. How to coach a young player through his struggles. The only thing he knows is take away ice time, demote to a lower line, then scratch. Sapping a young players confidence. He only knows how to be a hammer and Michkov is his current nail.
- MJL

you need a new analogy. the hammer/nail is past its expiration date.

Gauthier was a complete non factor in this game. The stats you are quoting had more to do with his line mates and situations versus something special Gauthier did. Anyone watching the game could see he was pretty much invisible out there. You spewed the same crap about Frost, and look where we are with him. Building blocks do not come from phony stats like expected goals, they come from seeing him actually winning battles, getting to the dirty areas of the ice and creating scoring chances. Two shots on goal in the game is not a building block.
- jd250

Well, TK had no points, +1, 1 SOG. Difference maker in this game for sure.

Gauthier was a complete non factor in this game. The stats you are quoting had more to do with his line mates and situations versus something special Gauthier did. Anyone watching the game could see he was pretty much invisible out there. You spewed the same crap about Frost, and look where we are with him. Building blocks do not come from phony stats like expected goals, they come from seeing him actually winning battles, getting to the dirty areas of the ice and creating scoring chances. Two shots on goal in the game is not a building block.
- jd250

flyers should hire you as making the determination after a player playing 35 games is not a building block is super is great scouting. flyers need people like you.

Well, TK had no points, +1, 1 SOG. Difference maker in this game for sure.
- TheFreak

Face of the franchise

Gauthier was invisible, only if you watch the game on planet Delusional did you believe Gauthier had a solid game.

As for Michkov there is something very wrong with him right now. Maybe it’s the schedule as Torts suggested, but whatever it is he needs to sit a game or two and work it out. He is a complete shell of his earlier self out there.
- jd250

I have seen a bunch of Ana games now. I think Gauthier is still finding his way. One thing they have asked him to change is his shot attempts….he used to fire it from anywhere. They are asking him to play more within the team structure which involves getting the other 4 guys on the ice involved.
Michkov has hit a bit of a wall. But I hope he stays in and they just let him be. If anyone should come out it’s Poehling…but we all know that ain’t happening.

you need a new analogy. the hammer/nail is past its expiration date.
- login

That analogy fits here though…