I think they are both problem children, get them both off this fucken team so I can start watching full games again.

Edit, that was a terrible trade proposal, Nighthawk bad
- Reubenkincade

See above...or my last post to Donna.

That's gotta be one of the worst trade proposals I've ever seen. If you're trading Petey to Montreal you're asking for Nick Suzuki in return and telling them to add to that.

You know, speaking strictly of points production, thru Nathan MacKinnon's first six seasons, 456 games, he had 402 points. Thru Pettersson's first six seasons and 35 games this season, because he only played 26 games in 2020/21, Pettersson has 440 points in 441 games. He's actually outproduced MacKinnon offensively.

Petey could explode offensively given the right circumstances, getting rid of the problem child Miller, in the coming years.
- Pacificgem

Forget about the proposal's for now. The fact that one or both of these clowns are available is perfect. The phones are ringing, let the process play out.

Forget about the proposal's for now. The fact that one or both of these clowns are available is perfect. The phones are ringing, let the process play out.
- VanHockeyGuy

I would absolutely love all three of Miller, Boeser and Pettersson to be traded for a franchise reset and then let Lordy's "Benning's Core BS" die a quick death.

Personally I don't really care if either one is traded, or both of them are traded, as long as they get quality in their return.
- Pacificgem

I don’t really care either. Anyone can be traded other than Hughes and Willander. But Pouty’s contract has the potential to be one of the worst in the league. May already be

I would absolutely love all three of Miller, Boeser and Pettersson to be traded for a franchise reset and then let Lordy's "Benning's Core BS" die a quick death.
- Pacificgem

Totally agree.

I don't know if you've noticed this or not, but Lordy isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. In fact, he's not even in the shed. He's been rusting outside for a couple of winters.

I would absolutely love all three of Miller, Boeser and Pettersson to be traded for a franchise reset and then let Lordy's "Benning's Core BS" die a quick death.
- Pacificgem

That would be a win/win! 😂

Fix things and forget the playoffs for this year.

Totally agree.

I don't know if you've noticed this or not, but Lordy isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. In fact, he's not even in the shed. He's been rusting outside for a couple of winters.
- Load Management

Thank you.

Friedman: I believe Vancouver has already listened to offers on both players (JT Miller and Pettersson) and will continue to do so.

#canucks

Totally agree.

I don't know if you've noticed this or not, but Lordy isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. In fact, he's not even in the shed. He's been rusting outside for a couple of winters.
- Load Management

Horvat on JT Miller:

"Miller and I got along great. There's gonna be times when you're gonna cuss each other out. There's gonna be times when you're not gonna like somebody, but at the same time, you respect everybody," Horvat said.
"You're all friends in there, you're all teammates, and you're all fighting towards the same goal. Are you gonna get along all the time? No, but at the same time, he and I had a good relationship. Same with me and Petey"

per
@stefen_rosner
#Canucks

Horvat on JT Miller:

"Miller and I got along great. There's gonna be times when you're gonna cuss each other out. There's gonna be times when you're not gonna like somebody, but at the same time, you respect everybody," Horvat said.
"You're all friends in there, you're all teammates, and you're all fighting towards the same goal. Are you gonna get along all the time? No, but at the same time, he and I had a good relationship. Same with me and Petey"

per
@stefen_rosner
#Canucks
- Pacificgem

Late

"We got some people in our own country doubting us, so I don’t know. Just want to prove them wrong."

Gavin McKenna on the Canadian fans abandoning their team.


This kid is gonna be an absolute super-star in the NHL, he's so good.

Late
- TurdFergeson

Horvat on EP rumors:

"He's a special player. He's a really good person. He's a special player that I respect a lot. I've had a lot of good success with him, too, in the past. But yeah, if I get a chance to play with him again, I would love to."

(Via @stefen_rosner)

Totally agree.

I don't know if you've noticed this or not, but Lordy isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. In fact, he's not even in the shed. He's been rusting outside for a couple of winters.
- Load Management

You’re going to get gif’d for saying that!

Friedman: I believe Vancouver has already listened to offers on both players (JT Miller and Pettersson) and will continue to do so.

#canucks
- Pacificgem

I thought he got the Canucks ban hammer?

Horvat on EP rumors:

"He's a special player. He's a really good person. He's a special player that I respect a lot. I've had a lot of good success with him, too, in the past. But yeah, if I get a chance to play with him again, I would love to."

(Via @stefen_rosner)
- Pacificgem

Rutherford is going to come out and make a statement. This seems to be escalating.

(Via Spittin’ Chiclits

Kyle Davidson was NOT happy with the team’s effort at the Winter Classic.

He was in the locker room directly after the game, laying into the players for their effort.

KD puts high value into competitive nature & wants to see more.

#Blackhawks


Maybe Miller could whip them into shape.

I would absolutely love all three of Miller, Boeser and Pettersson to be traded for a franchise reset and then let Lordy's "Benning's Core BS" die a quick death.
- Pacificgem

A win/win for everyone but Micro Von Rickens.

Rutherford is going to come out and make a statement. This seems to be escalating.
- VanHockeyGuy

Miller for Horvat!
That would be hilarious!

In my opinion, this freefalling mess the Canucks have found themselves in started when they gave a middle six grinder top player money. When Miller signed that great contract (he should have, good for him), the hockey world was like...."WTF did I just see!?!" Even Miller himself went public saying that he didn't feel that he deserved it but he will try his hardest to live up to it, again...good for him.

But when the elite players on the team, with so much more skill and such higher ceilings (Boeser, Petterson) see this, and see how much attention this middle six grinder is getting, they will sometimes tend to withdraw. Then when Miller, trying his best, becomes more vocal and is just trying to motivate the team, the top guys are like "dude, just who the f do you think you are? I skate circles around you all week long". Now there's some trouble brewing.

So now Miller is pissed off because nobody listens to him but he feels like a leader (he's paid like one), but he doesn't have the skill to back it up. The top skill guys are basically jealous and annoyed at this middle sixer bossing them around, and the MOST important aspect of all of this is that their team captain (who is totally and utterly amazing) is f63kn 20years old!!! Now you have the superstars whining and not skating and the "leader" who is significantly overpaid struggling with guilt and identity issues.

This is a situation that could have been cleaned up quickly with a captain or leader that would just tell them all to STFU and play. I thought Tochett would do this but sometimes it's just a players issue and the coach's voice doesn't land. The Oilers had a very similar situation with Horcoff trying to lead a group of young superstars that did not respect his play at all (I'm sure they respected HIM, but when your capitain/leader is the 4th or 5th best fwd...it has to come from somewhere else too).

Anyway, that's what I see with the Canucks. I would trade Miller (the mental stuff will likely persist, unfortunately) and stick with the skill guys and wait for Hughes to start leading. Meanwhile you'll get pretty decent players for Miller.
- JLO961

Some good points here...but technically Miller has lived up to his contract for the most par with a couple 100 point seasons. It's the dissention in the room and around his teammates that is the issue. When he is healthy and on his on-ice play is great. But he appears mentally challeged all of a sudden and yes maybe it is time to move on from him and just roll with Petey. These Miller issues will just continue on.

Trade them separate. for a better return, that return itself would be garbage.
Miller likely goes to NYR as one of the few teams he would waive to. I assume Mika needs to come back for cap purposes, but likely some retention on him

Miller + Desharnais for Zib(2m retained) + Miller + 2025 1st(top 5 protected) or something like this
Zib is having a bad year, but still a 2nd line C at worst and 6.5 is not the worst cap hit for him.
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Maybe we could swing Boeser to the canes for Morrow?

The gives us a right side in a year or two of hronek, morrow, willander
- Retinalz

Cap space for the Rags is not an issue.

Miller for Horvat!
That would be hilarious!
- K-man25

Stop drinking Blanco Tequila.

Horvat saying it’s blown out of proportion by the media, it’s Vancouver 😆
- Bettmanhatesus

lol Horvat was such a disappointment as Captain who really cares what he thinks at this point.

https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/columnist_proposes_major_trade_that_would_see_elias_pettersson_land_in_montreal/s1_17452_41504242
- Reubenkincade

Happy NY everyone. Pouty needs to go asap. He isn’t liked by players or management. Anyone that defends this diva is an absolute beta tool. PA can’t let this drag on and needs to make a move asap to save the season
- CanuckDon

Donny!!