Hypothetically, if both were the same age who would you prefer? MM or MM?

Regarding Marner, if signed we would have 29 yo TK starting is 8 year deal and similarly sized 28 yo Marner starting his deal. My guess is that would not age well

Hypothetically, if both were the same age who would you prefer? MM or MM?
- lemieux_66

You’d have to take MM, there is no telling MM will reach the current level of MM. I highly doubt the ceiling for MM is much higher than current MM.

Regarding Marner, if signed we would have 29 yo TK starting is 8 year deal and similarly sized 28 yo Marner starting his deal. My guess is that would not age well
- mr4tno

The Flyers need to focus on center and defense. They need to focus on drafting.

What a pass by Buium, why can't the Flyers get players like this? Oh wait ...

If the Flyers traded Konecny last season or during the offseason, then Id have interest in Marner

Unless the Flyers plan on moving TK before July 1st theres no reason to add Marner

Michkov is untouchable.

#1 Priority is a #1C. Flyers need to be active and find that Forsling\Toews\Fox\Eichel type moves
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Marner is soft, when Nylander is calling you out, you know you are soft.

Michkov should be un-tradable considering how his arc aligns with the current developmental curve in the organization. And his ceiling cannot reasonably be predicted at this point but there’s a strong argument it is as good as or higher than an already peaked Marner who will cost more and provide less over the same time frame and is a known choke artist while at least Matvei has the chance to not be one.

Marner at MOST is worth 8.5per/5yrs/$42.5M

Centers and Defenseman are more valuable than goalies.
Save for a few wingers, none of them should ever take up 10% of your cap if you wanna win.

Someone will pay him $12M+. Doesn’t make him worth it.

Marner is soft, when Nylander is calling you out, you know you are soft.
- jd250

More absurdity. Marner has been a Selke trophy finalist and is one of the top 2 way players in the NHL.

Michkov should be un-tradable considering how his arc aligns with the current developmental curve in the organization. And his ceiling cannot reasonably be predicted at this point but there’s a strong argument it is as good as or higher than an already peaked Marner who will cost more and provide less over the same time frame and is a known choke artist while at least Matvei has the chance to not be one.

Marner at MOST is worth 8.5per/5yrs/$42.5M

Centers and Defenseman are more valuable than goalies.
Save for a few wingers, none of them should ever take up 10% of your cap if you wanna win.

Someone will pay him $12M+. Doesn’t make him worth it.
- 13of39

Maybe offensively but there is no indication so far that Michkov has the defensive pedigree that Marner has. 8.5M for Marner is ridiculous.

More absurdity. Marner has been a Selke trophy finalist and is one of the top 2 way players in the NHL.
- MJL

Yeah but what is his notices/60? Can't play well without being noticed. 200 foot game. Play over the puck. Cycle. Hitsumbuddy. Go to the greasy areas. SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!

$12 million for Marner from the Flyers?Trade Michkov? Not even worth responding to such ridiculous questions.

Last nights game… meh. Fedotov looked decent. Foerester with a nice goal.

More absurdity. Marner has been a Selke trophy finalist and is one of the top 2 way players in the NHL.
- MJL

You keep pumping those stats. Meanwhile how has Toronto done in the playoffs with Marner? How has Marner performed individually in the playoffs? That's what matter when you are talking about committing a max contract to a so-called proven commodity. Marner has to me only proven he is soft and I would not want him on the Flyers.

You keep pumping those stats. Meanwhile how has Toronto done in the playoffs with Marner? How has Marner performed individually in the playoffs? That's what matter when you are talking about committing a max contract to a so-called proven commodity. Marner has to me only proven he is soft and I would not want him on the Flyers.
- jd250

What I'm going to keep pumping is common sense because that's all that is needed to confront the nonsense you offer. I did not name a single stat in that reply. Using common sense, a player isn't going to be nominated as a finalist for the Selke trophy if he is a soft player. My comment was not refuting anyone's opinion on whether it is a smart move for the Flyers to go after Marner. Just your ridiculous comment that he is soft. You're also wrong about it being a max contract. It wouldn't be near that.

I'll finish with this. How has Travis Konecny done in the playoffs? Yet you keep pumping him as the face of the franchise.

What I'm going to keep pumping is common sense because that's all that is needed to confront the nonsense you offer. I did not name a single stat in that reply. Using common sense, a player isn't going to be nominated as a finalist for the Selke trophy if he is a soft player. My comment was not refuting anyone's opinion on whether it is a smart move for the Flyers to go after Marner. Just your ridiculous comment that he is soft. You're also wrong about it being a max contract. It wouldn't be near that.

I'll finish with this. How has Travis Konecny done in the playoffs? Yet you keep pumping him as the face of the franchise.
- MJL

Come on now. TK pushes people after the whistle and says mean things to the other team. Who cares about playoff performance?

Come on now. TK pushes people after the whistle and says mean things to the other team. Who cares about playoff performance?
- mickel25

He's like hardened steel!

What I'm going to keep pumping is common sense because that's all that is needed to confront the nonsense you offer. I did not name a single stat in that reply. Using common sense, a player isn't going to be nominated as a finalist for the Selke trophy if he is a soft player. My comment was not refuting anyone's opinion on whether it is a smart move for the Flyers to go after Marner. Just your ridiculous comment that he is soft. You're also wrong about it being a max contract. It wouldn't be near that.

I'll finish with this. How has Travis Konecny done in the playoffs? Yet you keep pumping him as the face of the franchise.
- MJL

We don't know how TK wil perform until he actually gets there. I am not going to count the bubble fiasco a few years ago. However we do know how Marner has performed in the playoffs ... he's soft and not a player I would spend that kind of money on. I don't care who has nominated him for what. I know the player, he's not a winner.

We don't know how TK wil perform until he actually gets there. I am not going to count the bubble fiasco a few years ago. However we do know how Marner has performed in the playoffs ... he's soft and not a player I would spend that kind of money on. I don't care who has nominated him for what. I know the player, he's not a winner.
- jd250

Konecny has never carried a team to the playoffs or played in the playoffs. He's just not a winner. Marner has. He wasn't nominated, he was voted as a finalist for the Selke trophy. You can't be considered one of the best 2 way players and one of the best defensive forwards in the league if you're soft. Marner has put up 49 points in 57 playoff games. I know you don't care because you don't like to deal in facts. You deal in fantasy.

Imagine having both Zeev and Gabe Perrault in the pipeline

Imagine having both Zeev and Gabe Perrault in the pipeline
- TobyFlenderson

Just wait until the Jett lights it up. He is gonna fly around the ice so fast and backcheck so hard Tortorella and Jonesy are gonna have to go to the ER for having an erection lasting longer than 4 hours.

How was the game? Looks like another loser point to keep them afloat and the true flyers fans thirsting for the playoffs.

You keep pumping those stats. Meanwhile how has Toronto done in the playoffs with Marner? How has Marner performed individually in the playoffs? That's what matter when you are talking about committing a max contract to a so-called proven commodity. Marner has to me only proven he is soft and I would not want him on the Flyers.
- jd250

Marner has 50 points in 57 games. How would you classify that production?

We don't know how TK wil perform until he actually gets there. I am not going to count the bubble fiasco a few years ago. However we do know how Marner has performed in the playoffs ... he's soft and not a player I would spend that kind of money on. I don't care who has nominated him for what. I know the player, he's not a winner.
- jd250

Yet you think TK, Laughton Couturier and the like are winners I bet. Flyers have the biggest group of losers assembled.

Imagine having both Zeev and Gabe Perrault in the pipeline
- TobyFlenderson

I was imagining it every Team USA game I watched.

Imagine having both Zeev and Gabe Perrault in the pipeline
- TobyFlenderson

Think about it, how can anyone have any faith in this organization.

- paid the 13th overall + for Risto.

- Wasted a 5th overall pick with next to nothing to show for it.

- drafting a dman because of need and not the BPA.

- Drafted a guy who if he hits his ceiling is a 2nd line center over a guy who if he hits his ceiling is a top pair dman.

- not moving on from players because you refuse to trade them (such a winning pedigre) or they are extended.

Have they even started to build around MM yet? I am not seeing it. Just a rudderless franchise. No real plan. Taking it week by week. Day by day

Hypothetically, if both were the same age who would you prefer? MM or MM?
- lemieux_66

I would prefer MM for obvious reasons.