Nothing will change until Torts is gone. Poehling, Laughton, Hathaway, and Cates are his favorites. They're using Farabee (who actually has skill with proving scoring) as a grinder in the bottom six. It's comical at this point.
- Pixote Andolini

Torts is here until he decides he doesn't want to be. The vast majority of the fans think he is the second coming of Jesus Christ.

Oh I know it and apart from the fans I have the sense that the Flyers governance also feels the same.

Pens, Sabres, jackets all up and the rangers are tied I’m having a tankgasm babaaayyy

Torts is here until he decides he doesn't want to be. The vast majority of the fans think he is the second coming of Jesus Christ.
- MBFlyerfan

That and they believe there’s some kind of plan here with the three stooges

Can they trade both? In Cates case, it would be nice to trade a youngish player who is playing well to try and upgrade. As opposed to putting Farabee on the trade market and hope a buyer will just disregard his production has cratered. Not interested in extending another forward who maxs out as a 3rd line forward.
- Trox88

Thing about trades is that it doesnt necessarily matter what the player is doing now. What matters is what a GM sees as his potential, what they think they can get out of him and how they value their or players. The Grass is always greener on the otherside.

Farabee has been disappointing but he had a career year last season. It is concerning he has taken a step back but that happens with developing young players. Farabee could end up being another Schenn in the sense that we dealt him at 24/25 and then breaks out the next season.

Farabee IMO can be a lot better than he has shown this season and to be fair he did have some very good games where he still didnt produce.

Torts is here until he decides he doesn't want to be. The vast majority of the fans think he is the second coming of Jesus Christ.
- MBFlyerfan

Can you prove he isnt?

Thing about trades is that it doesnt necessarily matter what the player is doing now. What matters is what a GM sees as his potential, what they think they can get out of him and how they value their or players. The Grass is always greener on the otherside.

Farabee has been disappointing but he had a career year last season. It is concerning he has taken a step back but that happens with developing young players. Farabee could end up being another Schenn in the sense that we dealt him at 24/25 and then breaks out the next season.

Farabee IMO can be a lot better than he has shown this season and to be fair he did have some very good games where he still didnt produce.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

What a player is doing now certainly matters a great deal. It affects his value and the return. A GM in this situation is going to try and take advantage of that if he believes in the player. Farabee may have had a career year last year but he has about 30 points in his last 70 games. I agree that he can be a lot better but his horrific slump last season has continued into this season. That is troublesome. That has a big effect on his value.

What a player is doing now certainly matters a great deal. It affects his value and the return. A GM in this situation is going to try and take advantage of that if he believes in the player. Farabee may have had a career year last year but he has about 30 points in his last 70 games. I agree that he can be a lot better but his horrific slump last season has continued into this season. That is troublesome. That has a big effect on his value.
- MJL

And it’s not like he hasn’t been put in situations to succeed. His total regression is befuddling.

It's a fact and multiple witnesses have confirmed the same. Deny it all you want.

Is there a rule I missed about not being allowed to comment on a game you didn't watch.
- MJL

There are no rules governing how foolish you sound every day, so have at it. Did you see the video Ek posted? But ya, you’re right, Luchanko couldn’t possibly become a top 6 center

You know why you don’t respond to hello it’s me 2050, because he calls you out every single day.

Oh and one more thing, anyone who truly watches the games would readily see Risto is once again the Flyers best defenseman!

Flyers are running into a team tonight that plays the way the Flyers want to play, but does it way better than them and has been doing it for a longer time. Plus the stars have some snipers for sure.. NHL is so much about matchups. If the flyers made the playoffs, you’d want them to play Toronto before Florida for the same reasons. They actually played Toronto really well the last two games despite only getting one point. The difference again…. One team has bona fide snipers.

And it’s not like he hasn’t been put in situations to succeed. His total regression is befuddling.
- Just5

It’s not to me Farabee has been like this his entire career where he goes on these prolong scoring slumps. He just doesn’t have the skill to beat people one on one and score goals and generate offense on his own. At this point I think even though they’re selling low, the flyers should just move on from him.

Can you prove he isnt?
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Spoken like a true believing Tortstian.

What a player is doing now certainly matters a great deal. It affects his value and the return. A GM in this situation is going to try and take advantage of that if he believes in the player. Farabee may have had a career year last year but he has about 30 points in his last 70 games. I agree that he can be a lot better but his horrific slump last season has continued into this season. That is troublesome. That has a big effect on his value.
- MJL

In previous seasons you'd see some impressive flashes from Farabee where on some occasions he'd look like the best Flyers skater on the ice. Both Farabee and honestly the entire team fell into a black hole and slumped, limping to the final buzzer in game 82. I wonder if some of Farabee's injuries have affected his play. I also think Farabee would benefit with more ice time and better linemates.

Flyers are running into a team tonight that plays the way the Flyers want to play, but does it way better than them and has been doing it for a longer time. Plus the stars have some snipers for sure.. NHL is so much about matchups. If the flyers made the playoffs, you’d want them to play Toronto before Florida for the same reasons. They actually played Toronto really well the last two games despite only getting one point. The difference again…. One team has bona fide snipers.
- Eklund

One team has also drafted, and more importantly, developed their players better.

Flyers are running into a team tonight that plays the way the Flyers want to play, but does it way better than them and has been doing it for a longer time. Plus the stars have some snipers for sure.. NHL is so much about matchups. If the flyers made the playoffs, you’d want them to play Toronto before Florida for the same reasons. They actually played Toronto really well the last two games despite only getting one point. The difference again…. One team has bona fide snipers.
- Eklund

I thought the Flyers wanted to play like the Isles? Or was it the Blues? Or Vegas? Then Carolina.

First time hearing this one about Dallas.

One team has also drafted, and more importantly, developed their players better.
- MBFlyerfan

Dallas has been hit and miss if you look at their drafting history. They had a great 2017 draft which really built the team you see here. Hextall helped them out by not listening to his scouts.

There are no roles governing how foolish you sound levery day, so have at it. Did you see the video Ek posted? But ya, you’re right, Luchanko couldn’t possibly become a top 6 center

You know why you don’t respond to hello it’s me 2050, because he calls you out every single day.

Oh and one more thing, anyone who truly watches the games would readily see Risto is once again the Flyers best defenseman!
- jd250

I have never stated that Luchanko can't become a top 6 center. Is this an example of how you prove that I'm foolish? Not only are your responses uninformed and absurd. They're also ridiculously childish.

Yes, Sanheim has a CF% of 75% and scoring chances are 9-2 Flyers when he is on the ice in the game
York CF% of 73.6% and scoring chances are 8-4 Flyers
Ristolainen has a CF% of 25% and scoring chances are 12-3 Dallas when he is on the ice.

I know you're watching the game so this just cements that you have zero ability to accurately analyze anything in the game of hockey

I have never stated that Luchanko can't become a top 6 center. Is this an example of how you prove that I'm foolish? Not only are your responses uninformed and absurd. They're also ridiculously childish.

Yes, Sanheim has a CF% of 75% and scoring chances are 9-2 Flyers when he is on the ice in the game
York CF% of 73.6% and scoring chances are 8-4 Flyers
Ristolainen has a CF% of 25% and scoring chances are 12-3 Dallas when he is on the ice.

I know you're watching the game so this just cements that you have zero ability to accurately analyze anything in the game of hockey
- MJL

Absurd as usual, you have to consider who Risto is playing with! Rookie mistake by you.

Thing about trades is that it doesnt necessarily matter what the player is doing now. What matters is what a GM sees as his potential, what they think they can get out of him and how they value their or players. The Grass is always greener on the otherside.

Farabee has been disappointing but he had a career year last season. It is concerning he has taken a step back but that happens with developing young players. Farabee could end up being another Schenn in the sense that we dealt him at 24/25 and then breaks out the next season.

Farabee IMO can be a lot better than he has shown this season and to be fair he did have some very good games where he still didnt produce.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Hope you are correct. Issue is Farabee has a 5 million/cap hit until '28. A lot of faith a GM is taking he bounces back. Cates is an RFA, playing well as a 2 way center at the moment. I believe he has higher value at the moment. Since the Flyers have an abundance of bottom 6 forwards, I would hope Briere can trade Cates for a better player in the long run. Organization is lacking talent, but extensions for everyone. Very mixed messaging.

I swear it’s a (frank)ing epidemic with this team. They just don’t shoot the (frank)ing puck. It drives me absolutely insane.

Flyers are running into a team tonight that plays the way the Flyers want to play, but does it way better than them and has been doing it for a longer time. Plus the stars have some snipers for sure.. NHL is so much about matchups. If the flyers made the playoffs, you’d want them to play Toronto before Florida for the same reasons. They actually played Toronto really well the last two games despite only getting one point. The difference again…. One team has bona fide snipers.
- Eklund

The Stars have speed and talent up and down their lineup. One of the best goalies in the league (not who's in net tonight). They also have one of the best lead-by-example Captains in the game. They play like the top tier pro team that they are. The Flyers look like a decent beer league team with top level budget for uniforms and equipment.

One team has also drafted, and more importantly, developed their players better.
- MBFlyerfan

Only one team has Lawton though.

Only one team has Lawton though.
- landros 2

Temu The Room ™

Spoken like a true believing Tortstian.

- MBFlyerfan

Do you have a moment to talk about our lord and savior Tortorella?

I thought the Flyers wanted to play like the Isles? Or was it the Blues? Or Vegas? Then Carolina.

First time hearing this one about Dallas.
- furio16

Isles or Blues?