I know eh?

It’s not like Schenn worked the 2nd time 🙄
- mr.sir

For short while he did. But we only won 2 extra games in the playoffs. So whatever, bringing him back for a 3rd time isnt appealing. Also, he was a different player when he returned from when he was traded away and he provided exactly what the leafs were lacking for years....he filled a gap at that time.
Klingy is only a year away from playing 10 or so games with the leafs and he would bring or be doing a pretty similar role to what he did....which isnt high on what the leafs need.
So not a good comparison....but expected.

I know eh?

It’s not like Schenn worked the 2nd time 🙄
- mr.sir

Trivia time:

Can you name the 3 Maple Leafs that have had 3 separate stints with the Leafs, meaning they played for other NHL teams in between their Leafy tours of duty?

One is easy.

One is pretty difficult.

One you won't get without cheating.

Edit: there's a 4th. Once again, no way in hell you know him unless you look him up.

So what does $200 get you? Dinner and 2 drinks? Can you see the game?
- Atomic Wedgie

Fajitas for "3," two 1 lb wing orders and a margarita + mojito. WNBA was on. Would rather stare blankly ahead.

Trivia time:

Can you name the 3 Maple Leafs that have had 3 separate stints with the Leafs, meaning they played for other NHL teams in between their Leafy tours of duty?

One is easy.

One is pretty difficult.

One you won't get without cheating.

Edit: there's a 4th. Once again, no way in hell you know him unless you look him up.
- Atomic Wedgie

Daniel Winnik

Daniel Winnik
- AdamFrench

Alas, only two stints with the Leafs.

Although he wore the maple leaf in the 2022 Olympics, so maybe that counts?

Trivia time:

Can you name the 3 Maple Leafs that have had 3 separate stints with the Leafs, meaning they played for other NHL teams in between their Leafy tours of duty?

One is easy.

One is pretty difficult.

One you won't get without cheating.

Edit: there's a 4th. Once again, no way in hell you know him unless you look him up.
- Atomic Wedgie

Clark and Perreault are easy.

Harry Cameron and Benny Grant are impossible.

Trivia time:

Can you name the 3 Maple Leafs that have had 3 separate stints with the Leafs, meaning they played for other NHL teams in between their Leafy tours of duty?

One is easy.

One is pretty difficult.

One you won't get without cheating.

Edit: there's a 4th. Once again, no way in hell you know him unless you look him up.
- Atomic Wedgie

Dan Daoust
Peter Zezel
The Centipede

I'm just totally guessing and I made the last one up...*fingers crossed*

Trivia time:

Can you name the 3 Maple Leafs that have had 3 separate stints with the Leafs, meaning they played for other NHL teams in between their Leafy tours of duty?

One is easy.

One is pretty difficult.

One you won't get without cheating.

Edit: there's a 4th. Once again, no way in hell you know him unless you look him up.
- Atomic Wedgie

Wendel Clark is the easy one.

Wendel Clark is the easy one.
- fifty__missions

Perreault is pretty easy too, he was a deadline time trade twice so as long as you remember him being drafted by the Leafs, not that difficult.

Perreault is pretty easy too, he was a deadline time trade twice so as long as you remember him being drafted by the Leafs, not that difficult.
- Rare_Jewel

That's why we got to take some shots in the dark! Was it Newsie Lalonde?

That's why we got to take some shots in the dark! Was it Newsie Lalonde?
- AdamFrench

If Harry Cameron had a longer career, he could have been the only guy to play for the Arenas, the St. Pats and the Leafs. Toronto Wanderers too!

Trivia time:

Can you name the 3 Maple Leafs that have had 3 separate stints with the Leafs, meaning they played for other NHL teams in between their Leafy tours of duty?

One is easy.

One is pretty difficult.

One you won't get without cheating.

Edit: there's a 4th. Once again, no way in hell you know him unless you look him up.
- Atomic Wedgie

Gilmour - maybe
Clarke for sure

that's all got atm

Sounds like there isn't much interest in Klingberg in here, but what are people's thoughts on Tony 'the cancer' Deangelo? Maybe a jack@ss in the locker room would shake things up. We haven't tried that yet

Sounds like there isn't much interest in Klingberg in here, but what are people's thoughts on Tony 'the cancer' Deangelo? Maybe a jack@ss in the locker room would shake things up. We haven't tried that yet
- Whipper

Leafs are extremely woke. They couldn't handle it without a serious mental health crisis among it's employees and their radical fans.

Game day, biz-nitches.

Flyers came back to beat the Panthers (I did not see that coming) so tonight is an opportunity to get some further separation.

Probably a good game to snag some tix at 6 pm, for those of you wanting to see it live.
- Atomic Wedgie

Panic is starting to set in, and it's not even 3 pm.

Upper bowl tix now going for under $100 per ticket.

By 5:30 pm, this is going to be a bloodbath for sellers.

Sounds like there isn't much interest in Klingberg in here, but what are people's thoughts on Tony 'the cancer' Deangelo? Maybe a jack@ss in the locker room would shake things up. We haven't tried that yet
- Whipper

It's going to be interesting if someone has the guts to sign him.

He must be a truly awful human being if 32 teams refused to give him even a PTO this year.

Leafs are extremely woke. They couldn't handle it without a serious mental health crisis among it's employees and their radical fans.
- Rare_Jewel

It would at the very least be amusing. Klingberg good or bad is pretty "mehhhh"

It would at the very least be amusing. Klingberg good or bad is pretty "mehhhh"
- AdamFrench

Certainly would be very amusing to watch the Leafs sign DeAngelo then win the Cup and he brings it to the White House to see Trump while wearing a MAGA hat while Leafs fans have a mental breakdown.

Yep. I've got two kids in university, one in high school still who will also be going soon. We did a good job saving since they were born with RESPs, but postsecondary education costs ain't what they used to be!
- fifty__missions

We contributed the maximum 50K + the gov't grant and the interest... then my son decided to go to college for 2 years and will likely only do 1 if he gets an apprenticeship

Similar. Mine is in palliative care with less than 3 months, they say; I'm no expert but it seems like less than that. She'll leave behind almost enough to cover her final arrangements and some kitschy knick-knacks.
- Monkeypunk

Seems like everyone I know either gets a pretty big amount or SFA.

Certainly would be very amusing to watch the Leafs sign DeAngelo then win the Cup and he brings it to the White House to see Trump while wearing a MAGA hat while Leafs fans have a mental breakdown.
- Rare_Jewel

Likely

The problem isn't the quantity of shots. It's predictability and quality of shots.

If the other team knows for a fact every single play is going to end at Matthews, then it's easy to stop. You don't bite on any other pass, fake or shot until Matthews gets it.

Ideally, you want every PKer to be taken AWAY from Matthews so that he has the best possible shot on net. And the only way to do that is to force every other player on the ice to respect the other 4 players enough that Matthews can't be covered or blocked.

Tavares is a threat in front of the net but nowhere else. Marner is a threat when he passes but not as a shot. Nylander is a threat as a shooter. Rielly is never a threat. And that's where the PP usually breaks. This is why they're trying 5 forwards but I don't think that's enough either.

The Leafs need to put Tavares in front (deflections, garbage goals), Marner at the point, Nylander on his offwing for a shot, Matthews on the other side and OEL at the point. Every single player is a threat in that scheme. OEL has more goals as a D-man than 95% of D-men the past 10 years. Tee him up and let him shoot. The more they have to block his shots, the more open Nylander and Matthews become on the wings. If the shots get through, Tavares feasts.
- Rare_Jewel

If it's so easy to figure this stuff out, explain why Ovie, who literally has stood in one spot on the ice for 2 decades ripping home PP goals, can't be stopped? Matthews is as good a shooter or better than Ovie.

I don't think the non success on the PP is due to skill or how they draw it up. PPs around the league all operate pretty similar, there is no coach guru out there.

Its all mental, and something they need to work through themselves. This unit has had a lot fo success together before.

If it's so easy to figure this stuff out, explain why Ovie, who literally has stood in one spot on the ice for 2 decades ripping home PP goals, can't be stopped? Matthews is as good a shooter or better than Ovie.
- Aaron_85

It's rather easy to explain.

Because the other 4 guys on the ice who have created enough of a threat that teams are forced to leave Ovi open eventually.

You think all it takes is for Ovechkin to stand in one spot for 19 years and the puck just goes in the net? Or is there also 4 other dangerous players who are also a threat in other areas of the ice who pull away defenders and feed him the puck when the time is exactly right?

It's rather easy to explain.

Because the other 4 guys on the ice have created enough of a threat that teams are forced to leave Ovi open eventually.

You think all it takes is for Ovechkin to stand in one spot for 18 years and the puck just goes in the net? Or is there also 4 other dangerous players who are also a threat in other areas of the ice?
- Rare_Jewel

You think it's been 20 years of the same level of dangerous players? Only one constant in that time and it's Ovie being Ovie.

Regardless, your point was "too easy to have Matthews be a one trick pony" so I said why do the Capitals do it and you have no real reason. You vaguely point to the rest of the PP and act as if it's not the same one trick pony set up for Ovie.

Matthews and Ovie can just do the same thing and it would work. 18 years of success isn't a small sample size.