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Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Location: My Lovers call me Small23
Joined: 04.11.2018

Monday @ 2:00 PM ET
This is more media bullpoop. There's a bunch of context that's missing from this and the media likes to leave it out. He said that the team didn't do well through the neutral zone and limiting chances and speed - but they played will in the offensive zone.

We watched the game. Lankinen made several excellent saves and Hildeby let in at least 2 he probably wishes he didn't. You put that together and there was a decent chance the Leafs win that game.

But instead let's cook it into a Marner-doesn't-care cake and see who eats it up.

- Monkeypunk



The context.

Reporter: How do you judge the effort level on your guys’ part tonight?

Mitchy: I liked it. I mean thought we played well. I really did.


Overall he felt good about the game and effort - just thought they (Canucks) capitalized on the chances they were given.

That’s not a player who is uncomfortable losing.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Monday @ 2:02 PM ET
This is more media bullpoop. There's a bunch of context that's missing from this and the media likes to leave it out. He said that the team didn't do well through the neutral zone and limiting chances and speed - but they played will in the offensive zone.

We watched the game. Lankinen made several excellent saves and Hildeby let in at least 2 he probably wishes he didn't. You put that together and there was a decent chance the Leafs win that game.

But instead let's cook it into a Marner-doesn't-care cake and see who eats it up.

- Monkeypunk

That could be said of any game. If their goalie didnt make excellent saves and ours made two more saves, we would have won.
At the end of the day marner often fluffs off loses.
Him and matthews were -6 the game before and shut out Saturday, they both needed to be better
Bullot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 07.14.2010

Monday @ 2:10 PM ET
Marner thought they played well.
he is in his playoff mindset early. ahh shucks, we lost..but we played well

none of that hate to lose in him. as long he feels like he played well

- senstroll


He gets paid for regular season points! He’s not paid to win. And as such, book another early exit this year. But hey, give him a raise and keep doing it. After 50 years, I can’t watch it anymore or listen to his drivel, but I still check on you guys every now and then to see if you’re all drinking the cool side still. When the going gets tough, Marner checks out.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Monday @ 2:10 PM ET
enough coddling Marner. i call BS

if you contrast Marner with what Tanev said "Not good enough. They outworked us, outcompeted us, and that's why they won"

its not like they lost 4-3, they didnt score.

it would just be nice if he pretended losing bothered him just a tiny bit

- senstroll


But what Tanev said is also not really true. Vancouver had 18 shots. They didn't outwork them. The Leafs failed to capitalize on their chances and Vancouver scored two goals that wouldn't beat an average NHL goalie.

If anything it was a poop game with two teams both failing to execute with any real competency. It could have ended 0-0 - but if you look at the best chances of the night, they did belong to the Leafs.

I mean the Leafs lost so what Tanev said will always ring true with fans - "Yeah, what that guy said! They outworked us!" What Marner said is also true in its context - they did move the puck pretty well in the offensive zone. They did not shoot enough, they did not drive the net enough, they did not execute enough.

That said, I would like to see him pissed off that they lost as opposed to just accepting with a complete laissez-faire attitude. Matthews, Tavares and Marner all accept losing all too well. Rielly and Nylander seem more displeased by it, but they're not dwelling on it 15 minutes after the game, so it's not like it's all that upsetting to them either.

But where's that line? Crack like Jack Campbell?
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Monday @ 2:14 PM ET
The context.

Reporter: How do you judge the effort level on your guys’ part tonight?

Mitchy: I liked it. I mean thought we played well. I really did.


Overall he felt good about the game and effort - just thought they (Canucks) capitalized on the chances they were given.

That’s not a player who is uncomfortable losing.

- Big23Questions


Ok. Take that question at face value and tell me if it's not true. The Leafs had the better chances and Lankinen came up big. Vancouver hardly had any chances and still managed to score 2. The shots were 20-18 and if you're trying to limit offensive opportunities against with a defensive game . . .?

I'm not saying he dislikes losing, for the record. I said above that I don't think he dislikes it enough - but they all don't.
Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

Monday @ 2:22 PM ET
This is more media bullpoop. There's a bunch of context that's missing from this and the media likes to leave it out. He said that the team didn't do well through the neutral zone and limiting chances and speed - but they played will in the offensive zone.

We watched the game. Lankinen made several excellent saves and Hildeby let in at least 2 he probably wishes he didn't. You put that together and there was a decent chance the Leafs win that game.

But instead let's cook it into a Marner-doesn't-care cake and see who eats it up.

- Monkeypunk


Sure it's the media trying to sensationalize it but also just maybe Marner (Still) sucks when it comes to the media and how he deals with them.

They were 0 for 3 on the powerplay and only got 18 shots on net so to say or insinuate they played well in the offensive zone is a bit of a stretch.

Listen to this and if accurate / applicable to Marner it makes sense why he is so far off the path his coach said.

For those who don't want to watch the video it's Elliot Friedman saying he thinks it's Marner's 'defensive mechanism' to some degree and tells a story of how Mike Weir did the same and it was suggested to him by a sports psychologist because of being mentally fragile to negativity.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...-shutout-loss-to-canucks/

I actually think Elliot may be right on this.

Regardless IMO that doesn't make it right if you are going to be wearing the A on your jersey and supposed to be a leader. I see it as a major issue if true, if Marner is that fragile mentally then why do they continue to allow him to be an Assistant Captain?

Take that extra added pressure off of him, and give it to someone who is mentally strong enough to handle it & can call things out for what they are as unpleasant as that may be. Does Marner every say to a teammate 'hey you need to be better on this' or ' you should have done this instead of what you did'? I have my doubts and if the leaders on this team aren't holding themselves and other players accountable that's a problem.

This is Marner's full post game comments:

https://www.nhl.com/maple...r-post-game-6366981850112

So he says / acknowledges the PP sucked - true.

When asked about the effort level he says he liked it and thought they played well - sorry but this is the issue and it's not out of context. They didn't play well - full stop.

His post game comments seem to have a theme to them, we played well, just didn't get the luck, bounces, they capitalized on our mistakes and we didn't on theirs etc....guess what when you DON'T do those things you DIDN'T PLAY WELL ENOUGHT TO WIN and that's what fans care about. (And it should be what GM's and teams care about when negotiating contracts). If you want to put the positive spin on the game that's fine, do it in the room away from the cameras and play up the whole 'us vs them' media vs the team mentality all you want.

Compare his post game to Berube's: https://www.nhl.com/maple...e-post-game-6366981355112

First thing when asked about the performance tonight he talks about is what they were not good enough at - not enough pace, Didn't generate enough offense, PP not performing, didn't move puck well enough, just slow but defensively they were fine.

Even Matthews acknowledges that they were not connected enough:

https://www.nhl.com/maple...s-post-game-6366980106112

Marner is an exceptionally talented player but I think the A on his jersey is nothing more than a sewn letter on there and he is unable to lead. I know they won't strip the A from him sadly for the poop storm it would cause but if he stays here they should probably actually consider it unless he can change.

I mean if your a non-leadership team player on this team and hear your Captain and coach's comments and then Marner's what are you thinking?
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Monday @ 2:24 PM ET
The context.

Reporter: How do you judge the effort level on your guys’ part tonight?

Mitchy: I liked it. I mean thought we played well. I really did.


Overall he felt good about the game and effort - just thought they (Canucks) capitalized on the chances they were given.

That’s not a player who is uncomfortable losing.

- Big23Questions



By the way. THIS is the context.

Reporter: Mitch, what made it hard to generate offense tonight?


Marner: Uh. They did a good job around their net. Didn't create many opportunities. The Power play's gotta be way better. Uhm. Create more offense for our team.

Reporter: What was missing on the play tonight?

Marner: Uh. Christmas we weren't just making easy plays. Um. They're breaking them up. We've got to do a better job of getting pucks around the net. That's how we scored last game so we just gotta do a better job of finding lanes to get pucks to the net and bodies there.

Reporter: How would you judge that [effort? group?] level tonight on your guys' part.

Marner: I liked it. I mean I thought we played well. I really did. You know, I think . . just the last couple of games we've been giving up plays to teams that aren't missing on them, so you know I thought we good 5-man tight in our zone; I thought we went to the neutral zone as a unit. When we didn't do that's when breakdowns happen and they had a lot of offense off it and that's something that we talked about that we need to be better at and you know we'll look at it going forward and fix it.

https://www.nhl.com/maple...r-post-game-6366981850112
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Monday @ 2:25 PM ET
But what Tanev said is also not really true. Vancouver had 18 shots. They didn't outwork them. The Leafs failed to capitalize on their chances and Vancouver scored two goals that wouldn't beat an average NHL goalie.

If anything it was a poop game with two teams both failing to execute with any real competency. It could have ended 0-0 - but if you look at the best chances of the night, they did belong to the Leafs.

I mean the Leafs lost so what Tanev said will always ring true with fans - "Yeah, what that guy said! They outworked us!" What Marner said is also true in its context - they did move the puck pretty well in the offensive zone. They did not shoot enough, they did not drive the net enough, they did not execute enough.

That said, I would like to see him pissed off that they lost as opposed to just accepting with a complete laissez-faire attitude. Matthews, Tavares and Marner all accept losing all too well. Rielly and Nylander seem more displeased by it, but they're not dwelling on it 15 minutes after the game, so it's not like it's all that upsetting to them either.

But where's that line? Crack like Jack Campbell?

- Monkeypunk


i think we can see why this team hasnt had what it takes to bear down and get it done. its fine to them if they lose, they can go home and play xbox and its all ok

Marner is setting up to be the highest paid player on the team, with zero actual success.

Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Location: My Lovers call me Small23
Joined: 04.11.2018

Monday @ 2:31 PM ET
By the way. THIS is the context.

Reporter: Mitch, what made it hard to generate offense tonight?


Marner: Uh. They did a good job around their net. Didn't create many opportunities. The Power play's gotta be way better. Uhm. Create more offense for our team.

Reporter: What was missing on the play tonight?

Marner: Uh. Christmas we weren't just making easy plays. Um. They're breaking them up. We've got to do a better job of getting pucks around the net. That's how we scored last game so we just gotta do a better job of finding lanes to get pucks to the net and bodies there.

Reporter: How would you judge that

- Monkeypunk[effort? group?] level tonight on your guys' part.

Marner: I liked it. I mean I thought we played well. I really did. You know, I think . . just the last couple of games we've been giving up plays to teams that aren't missing on them, so you know I thought we good 5-man tight in our zone; I thought we went to the neutral zone as a unit. When we didn't do that's when breakdowns happen and they had a lot of offense off it and that's something that we talked about that we need to be better at and you know we'll look at it going forward and fix it.

https://www.nhl.com/maple...r-post-game-6366981850112




Well that’s the full interview - not the context for what I commenting on.

I was commenting on how Mitchy seems to not be overly uncomfortable losing/poor effort.

I posted the question he was asked how he felt about the teams effort - then posted his response.

He was point blank asked what he felt about the teams effort - he said he liked it.

I don’t care about his PP comments. I was looking at the fact a player who on a team who looks complacent with losing when it counts states he was happy with the terrible effort everyone including his teammates and coach found troubling.

THAT’S THE CONTEXT
Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Location: My Lovers call me Small23
Joined: 04.11.2018

Monday @ 2:32 PM ET
But what Tanev said is also not really true. Vancouver had 18 shots. They didn't outwork them. The Leafs failed to capitalize on their chances and Vancouver scored two goals that wouldn't beat an average NHL goalie.

If anything it was a poop game with two teams both failing to execute with any real competency. It could have ended 0-0 - but if you look at the best chances of the night, they did belong to the Leafs.

I mean the Leafs lost so what Tanev said will always ring true with fans - "Yeah, what that guy said! They outworked us!" What Marner said is also true in its context - they did move the puck pretty well in the offensive zone. They did not shoot enough, they did not drive the net enough, they did not execute enough.

That said, I would like to see him pissed off that they lost as opposed to just accepting with a complete laissez-faire attitude. Matthews, Tavares and Marner all accept losing all too well. Rielly and Nylander seem more displeased by it, but they're not dwelling on it 15 minutes after the game, so it's not like it's all that upsetting to them either.

But where's that line? Crack like Jack Campbell?

- Monkeypunk




They got out worked in all 3 zones. Soft effort and bad habits.
Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

Monday @ 2:41 PM ET
But what Tanev said is also not really true. Vancouver had 18 shots. They didn't outwork them. The Leafs failed to capitalize on their chances and Vancouver scored two goals that wouldn't beat an average NHL goalie.

If anything it was a poop game with two teams both failing to execute with any real competency. It could have ended 0-0 - but if you look at the best chances of the night, they did belong to the Leafs.

I mean the Leafs lost so what Tanev said will always ring true with fans - "Yeah, what that guy said! They outworked us!" What Marner said is also true in its context - they did move the puck pretty well in the offensive zone. They did not shoot enough, they did not drive the net enough, they did not execute enough.

That said, I would like to see him pissed off that they lost as opposed to just accepting with a complete laissez-faire attitude. Matthews, Tavares and Marner all accept losing all too well. Rielly and Nylander seem more displeased by it, but they're not dwelling on it 15 minutes after the game, so it's not like it's all that upsetting to them either.

But where's that line? Crack like Jack Campbell?

- Monkeypunk


Berube didn't blame the loss on Hildby I'm not sure why your insistent on doing so. The first goal wasn't on him, it was deflected. The 2nd one was sure but the leafs didn't score any so it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

What Marner said is not true - they did not play well in the offensive zone because passing the puck around but not getting quality scoring chances, nor enough traffic or urgency and being disconnected (all things the coach pointed out) do not equate to playing well in any zone.

If moving the puck around well = playing well in the offensive zone to you then sure I guess you can say Marner was accurate but sadly no points are gained by being the best team to pass the puck around and not get good opportunities to score or being able to score.

You defending Marner's comments here just makes it seem like you are the type of person who accepts losing far too easily and I don't think that's accurate of who you are when it comes to this team.

Marner has been coddled far too long, (they all have actually) so I'm not going to get too upset that the media is making a bit of a story of how little Mitchy is the only one who came out after a loss and made the stupid comment about how he thought they played well in the offensive zone - especially when they didn't score a single goal and only manufactured 18 shots.

As far as how far is too far as it relates to caring about losing - Jack Campbell is in another universe from Marner or any other Leaf player for that matter. It's like comparing apples to horseshoes.

Sure it's one game, in Jan after a stinker but it also may be further indication that the 'not hating to lose enough' or the willingness to accept losing is a bigger issue with the team than many acknowledge.

And no, I don't know what the answer is - maybe they need to win more in the playoffs to fall more in love with that feeling and then they will hate the feeling of losing more?

I'm moving on now but I couldn't after reading you post that this was simply the media making Mitch out to be the bad guy and then hearing his interview (and Berube's).
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Monday @ 3:10 PM ET
How do we feel about adding Gourde, Tanev, Jarnkrok and maybe a depth RHD this TDL?

Success for Tre?
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Monday @ 3:12 PM ET
Berube didn't blame the loss on Hildby I'm not sure why your insistent on doing so. The first goal wasn't on him, it was deflected. The 2nd one was sure but the leafs didn't score any so it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.


- Cush29


Let's take the Marner part out of it for now because we're not going to fully agree. There are areas I do agree on. I think the 5 top paid players on the team all take losing fair too casually and I also think those same players don't amp it up when they are losing in a game and need to get it going. That said I do believe that both Nylander and Marner actually TRY to get things going more often than not when the game isn't going well. It usually leads to poor giveaways on the rush by Willy and poor giveaways by Marner on poorly chosen passes. It also makes it easier to pick at whichever of them is irking the fanbase more at the time.

As for Hildeby's game - yeah, the first goal was deflected - but it was headed to Hildeby's right when it hit Boeser; I thought Hildeby was still too far to the left. Had it been on net, it looked like it could've beaten him clean. He wasn't in good position for the shot or a deflection, imo.

The second one was poop. Admittedly, I can't blame him . . . he's doing the right things. He's out, cutting down the angle, he's busy being 6'7, so being down early with that much height at your disposal is probably the right thing to do. Even considering the shot did come low, so he's positioned right for the shot - it just goes off Timmins and up and over. I'll take Leafiness for $1000, Alex.

On the other side, I thought Robertson had 2 excellent chances and Tavares had one excellent one - at least. I think Marner had a chance on the far side that Lankinen robbed him on, didn't he?

At the end of the day I guess my problem in the outline of this game is that no one really executed on either side and when shots are 20-18, that couldn't been a 0-0 game. That's Craig Berube hockey - and we drew up unlucky at the well. I want to see more net drive, net presence and battle and I think that would have been Berube's big problem with the 5v5 play. The fact that he can sit there and answer questions while still employing his pal to run the power play is a bigger travesty right now - because if they can get that going a lot of these games aren't a question.


mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Monday @ 3:24 PM ET
Sasaki and Alonso

Yankees Mets and Giants out on Sasaki 😃
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Monday @ 3:50 PM ET
Sasaki and Alonso

Yankees Mets and Giants out on Sasaki 😃

- mr.sir


Jays are the best team to keep on the line for leverage to get a few extra mill out of another team
Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

Monday @ 3:51 PM ET
Let's take the Marner part out of it for now because we're not going to fully agree. There are areas I do agree on. I think the 5 top paid players on the team all take losing fair too casually and I also think those same players don't amp it up when they are losing in a game and need to get it going. That said I do believe that both Nylander and Marner actually TRY to get things going more often than not when the game isn't going well. It usually leads to poor giveaways on the rush by Willy and poor giveaways by Marner on poorly chosen passes. It also makes it easier to pick at whichever of them is irking the fanbase more at the time.

As for Hildeby's game - yeah, the first goal was deflected - but it was headed to Hildeby's right when it hit Boeser; I thought Hildeby was still too far to the left. Had it been on net, it looked like it could've beaten him clean. He wasn't in good position for the shot or a deflection, imo.

The second one was poop. Admittedly, I can't blame him . . . he's doing the right things. He's out, cutting down the angle, he's busy being 6'7, so being down early with that much height at your disposal is probably the right thing to do. Even considering the shot did come low, so he's positioned right for the shot - it just goes off Timmins and up and over. I'll take Leafiness for $1000, Alex.

On the other side, I thought Robertson had 2 excellent chances and Tavares had one excellent one - at least. I think Marner had a chance on the far side that Lankinen robbed him on, didn't he?

At the end of the day I guess my problem in the outline of this game is that no one really executed on either side and when shots are 20-18, that couldn't been a 0-0 game. That's Craig Berube hockey - and we drew up unlucky at the well. I want to see more net drive, net presence and battle and I think that would have been Berube's big problem with the 5v5 play. The fact that he can sit there and answer questions while still employing his pal to run the power play is a bigger travesty right now - because if they can get that going a lot of these games aren't a question.

- Monkeypunk



OK goaltending talk!

I re-watched the 1st goal and I actually think Hildeby could have made the save if it wasn't defelected despite not being in perfect positioning but we will never know.

2nd goal I lay no blame on him.

3rd goal was a nice shot but the Leafs needed a save there (not sure it would have mattered anyway) as it was the final dagger.

Lankinen got pretty lucky on the Robertson shot that nearly got by him IMO, he was beat 95% on that but that's not enough.

Agreed Savard needs to be shot into the sun, the PP woes are concerning and sure don't bode well for playoff success.

I agree that many top end players (more than just Willy or Marner) try to do too much when it gets tight or a game is very close - that's the difference between true superstars and just really good or star players.

IMO NONE of the current leafs have done this consistently enough in the playoffs it's more than just Willy or Marner needing to do it it's all of them but part of this is the style of game they play. They have (and perhaps still do) lacked the 'lets just go get a greasy one to win this' ability - closest you could say was probably JT's winner to put them into the 2nd round as that was a real "shoot from anywhere and hope for a rebound or lucky bounce" type of GWG in the playoffs that stand out for me. JT on this play was all about getting/keeping possession and getting it to the net. Kudos to Rielly for driving the net to cause chaos which helped this go in too.

Here it is again so we can all watch something to feel good about and god love Joe Bowen (even though he thought MOE got it).

https://youtu.be/8TX97dhJbfc?si=qkJWT05SUfsSWYTM

They need to do more of this.

Marner needs to shoot vs look to thread the perfect pass through 4 sets of legs, Willy needs to shoot quickly for a rebound not the top cheddar snipe or try to carry it past 3 guys, Matthews needs to get free and let it rip or get his big ass in front to look to bang in the rebound (more likely the 2nd one as I feel like opposing teams aren't about to let him get free in a tight and crucial game), Knies needs to keep being a big body in front and look to bang in scraps etc. etc. etc.

THAT is what I want and hope Berube can drag these guys to come playoffs - they still don't do enough of it and need to start before game one of round 1.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Monday @ 4:14 PM ET
I think player press availability for anything other than charity work, is dumb.

Players shouldn't have to deal with it. Coach, sure okay, let him do it. GM for trades or questions, sure okay, maybe once a year or just around the TDL.

Players should just play the game and win the game.

When they win, nobody cares. When they lose, they get scrutinized for not saying the exact perfect right thing. It's just dumb IMO.

___________________________________

Savard needs to (frank) off.

Put out two mixed power plays....

PP 1
Knies - net front
Matthews, Marner, Robertson.....two shooters/one passer
ANYONE BUT RIELLY WHO HAS A SLAPSHOT (McCabe)

PP2
Lorentz - net front
Tavares, Nylander, Domi....two shooters/one passer
ANYONE BUT RIELLY WHO HAS A SLAPSHOT (OEL or Hakanpaa)

Easy as that.

Too many chefs in the kitchen is the PPs current problem and I don't know why nobody sees that?!?!

Spread the talent out and get much better results.

____________________________________________

Rielly looks like he just doesn't give AF any more, like he almost doesn't even want to play.

Trade him for a #4RD with a slapshot + 3C.

McCabe, Tanev
OEL, #4RHD
Benoit, Hakanpaa/Myers



Trade the rest of the Holmberg/Jarnkrok/Easton/picks/prospects and yeet the other scraps taking up Cap space and get a 2C/LW with some jam.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Monday @ 4:37 PM ET
Jays are the best team to keep on the line for leverage to get a few extra mill out of another team
- senstroll

C- Grandal
1st/DH- Alonso, France
SS- Kim
3- Moncada
OF- Santander, Profar, Winker, Bader, Laureano, Carlson (buy low)
SP- Sasaki, Flaherty, Pivetta, Quantrill
RP- Scott, Estevez, Minter, Graveman, Yarbrough

Since we have a low chance at divisional success this year…. I would try to sign:

Grandal
Alonso
Carlson
Pivetta
Quantrill
Yarbrough

That Bregman deal will look Springer bad in a few years and he already turned down 6 x 26m 🙄
UncleSoze
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: who hasn't shagged Al Iafrate's wife
Joined: 03.11.2013

Monday @ 4:39 PM ET
With their power play struggling worse than ever, Toronto Maple Leafs power play coach Marc Savard has introduced a new wrinkle that he’s confident will get the team over the hump: a second unnecessary drop pass before entering the offensive zone.

“Right now we have Morgan bring the puck up as if he’s going to enter the zone even though he never does and then drop it to Willy or Mitch who do try to enter the zone against a set defense and promptly lose the puck,” explained Savard. “But next game we’re going to have Morgan drop it to Mitch who skates around a bit and then drops it to Willy who tries to enter the zone against a set defense.”

“They’ll never see it coming.”

Some critics online have suggested the Leafs should prioritize gaining the zone with speed and then shooting more in order to go for tips and rebounds, but Savard is confident that taking 45 seconds to get the puck across the blue line will be well worth it.

“By the time we get set up, the defenders will be so tired from standing at top of the circle watching us slowly skate towards them that they won’t be ready for our attack, which will continue to consist of passing the puck between the blue line and hash marks with no movement whatsoever.”

If this attempt fails Savard is already ready for his next improvement: icing an all defenders power play unit.



hope you are doing well Frenchie
Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

Monday @ 4:42 PM ET
Fire Savard. He's (frank)ing terrible. He was bad in Calgary and he's been even worse in Toronto with way more talent. Could see that being a fail hire before the season even started.

Even Columbus and Ottawa are 9th and 10th on the PP.

With the Leafs PP talent, they should be minimum 25% on the PP.

And it's not the players because this same group of guys has been a top 5 PP before. It's clearly the idiot coach.

If this group use to go from top 5 to garbage in the playoffs, imagine how much more useless the PP is going to be when they got a PP that's 20th.
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Monday @ 5:25 PM ET
Fire Savard. He's (frank)ing terrible. He was bad in Calgary and he's been even worse in Toronto with way more talent. Could see that being a fail hire before the season even started.

Even Columbus and Ottawa are 9th and 10th on the PP.

With the Leafs PP talent, they should be minimum 25% on the PP.

And it's not the players because this same group of guys has been a top 5 PP before. It's clearly the idiot coach.

If this group use to go from top 5 to garbage in the playoffs, imagine how much more useless the PP is going to be when they got a PP that's 20th.

- Rare_Jewel


This is multiple coaches, multiple seasons that this powerplay has failed to perform.

It. Might. Just. Be. The. Players.


Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

Monday @ 5:39 PM ET
This is multiple coaches, multiple seasons that this powerplay has failed to perform.

It. Might. Just. Be. The. Players.

- fifty__missions


Incorrect.

Over the past 5 seasons, the Leafs are the 3rd best PP team in the regular season.

Now they sit at 19th.

You could argue the Leafs PP sucked in the playoffs and you would be 100% correct. But their regular season PP can't be argued.

If they go into the playoffs with the 20th ranked PP, they'll be completely useless, even more than usual.

It's definitely Savard. He has no idea what he's doing and needs to be fired right now.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Monday @ 6:10 PM ET
Jays are the best team to keep on the line for leverage to get a few extra mill out of another team
- senstroll

It’s down to Dodgers, Padres and Jays. If your goal is more leverage, why not keep the Yankees in the mix.

fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Monday @ 6:17 PM ET
Incorrect.

Over the past 5 seasons, the Leafs are the 3rd best PP team in the regular season.

Now they sit at 19th.

You could argue the Leafs PP sucked in the playoffs and you would be 100% correct. But their regular season PP can't be argued.

If they go into the playoffs with the 20th ranked PP, they'll be completely useless, even more than usual.

It's definitely Savard. He has no idea what he's doing and needs to be fired right now.

- Rare_Jewel


You made my point. They're useless in the playoffs no matter their reg. season stats. It's the mix of players. It doesn't work.

Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Monday @ 6:19 PM ET
With their power play struggling worse than ever, Toronto Maple Leafs power play coach Marc Savard has introduced a new wrinkle that he’s confident will get the team over the hump: a second unnecessary drop pass before entering the offensive zone.

“Right now we have Morgan bring the puck up as if he’s going to enter the zone even though he never does and then drop it to Willy or Mitch who do try to enter the zone against a set defense and promptly lose the puck,” explained Savard. “But next game we’re going to have Morgan drop it to Mitch who skates around a bit and then drops it to Willy who tries to enter the zone against a set defense.”

“They’ll never see it coming.”

Some critics online have suggested the Leafs should prioritize gaining the zone with speed and then shooting more in order to go for tips and rebounds, but Savard is confident that taking 45 seconds to get the puck across the blue line will be well worth it.

“By the time we get set up, the defenders will be so tired from standing at top of the circle watching us slowly skate towards them that they won’t be ready for our attack, which will continue to consist of passing the puck between the blue line and hash marks with no movement whatsoever.”

If this attempt fails Savard is already ready for his next improvement: icing an all defenders power play unit.



hope you are doing well Frenchie

- UncleSoze

🤬
REMOVE 2 PENCIL NECKS FROM THE POWER PLAY AND PLANT THE GRIM REAVER AND KNIESUS BIG ASSES IN FRONT OF THE NET SO THAT THE GOALIE CANNOT SEE THE PUCK ERGO ZE CANNOT STOP IT👊🏿

What a (frank)ing joke 🤦‍♂️

edit:nice alliteration 👍🏿

edit: it’s not that hard🤦

edit: trade really(?)👊🏿
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