huffman was allegedly an offensive dman. wasnt very sound defensively.
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Seeler is a much better player than he was in Minnesota. His decision making has gotten way better. His point production has spiraled this year. I see a TDL move here.

Don't you think other GM's know GM speak when they hear it?

though in this case I do not think they want to move Risto. Unless maybe they fall totally out of it.
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Doesnt matter. GMs cant know for sure if the Flyers want to move Risto or not. They can only go by what he says. It is a game of chess. They can have an idea of what Briere wants but at the end of the day Briere is in the drivers seat. GMs either have to pass or pay the price. At the end of the day GMs know that with 2 more years left, the Flyers dont need to trade him. They will need to make serious offers to get him.

Will Briere stand pat and hold him if the offers arent good enough? Only Briere\Flyers know that answer. The fact they are listening and have named a price means they have interest in moving him.

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best skater, never is about talent with this organization.

As far as Bonk, the coaches are concerned about winning the games and tourny. Not what his future role will be on the flyers. Danny is an amateur.
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Its About winning games yet what games was Canada winning? Luchenko played better than many Canadian World Jr players, Despite a limited 4th line role. Canada's leading point scorer had 3 points....

I dont watch Bonk so Im not sure what his strengths or weakness are but if a coach is not playing a guy to his strengths how are you concerned with winning? That is exactly like putting Michkov in the role of a defensive checker. That is not his strength and he is not going to play well in that role. The primary role for Michkov should be offensive and whatever Bonk's strengths are should be his primary role. Doesnt mean the coach cant have him do other things but you should be taking advantage of a guys strengths.

The fact that Canada did so poorly in the tourny should evidence enough that the coach was out of his depths.

Its About winning games yet what games was Canada winning? Luchenko played better than many Canadian World Jr players, Despite a limited 4th line role. Canada's leading point scorer had 3 points....

I dont watch Bonk so Im not sure what his strengths or weakness are but if a coach is not playing a guy to his strengths how are you concerned with winning? That is exactly like putting Michkov in the role of a defensive checker. That is not his strength and he is not going to play well in that role. The primary role for Michkov should be offensive and whatever Bonk's strengths are should be his primary role. Doesnt mean the coach cant have him do other things but you should be taking advantage of a guys strengths.

The fact that Canada did so poorly in the tourny should evidence enough that the coach was out of his depths.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Completely agree. I watched the whole tourney and right from the selection of players I knew this team was in trouble. The deployment of the players was even worse. The proof is in the pudding. Horrible result. Luchanko should have been given a bigger role and I get why db was disappointed. You want your players to have big roles and succeed as part of their development. Db is spot on. Team Canada management and coaching were brutal

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Briere on whether Ristolainen could be a tough decision come the trade deadline: "I don't know yet. There's teams that have called to inquire. But Risto's been so good too for us. And he's not a rental. For us, there's no rush to trade him."

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"I mean, we get excited about trading him & thinking about the kind of return we can get. But I'm not shopping him. I'm not trying to get rid of him. He's been a big asset for us, & it would be a big hole if we ever have to lose him. So I really don't know where it's going.
- StepfordSam

If those words came out of Chuck Fletcher's mouth the fanbase would be grabbing their torches and pitchforks... but since it's Danny they just nod and slobber along.

I'd be surprised if anybody is traded at the deadline, much less any of the sacred cows.

If those words came out of Chuck Fletcher's mouth the fanbase would be grabbing their torches and pitchforks... but since it's Danny they just nod and slobber along.

I'd be surprised if anybody is traded at the deadline, much less any of the sacred cows.


- Tomahawk

Fletcher would never say this. He would say Risto is not available and say the teams looking to buy for a playoff push

Doesnt matter. GMs cant know for sure if the Flyers want to move Risto or not. They can only go by what he says. It is a game of chess. They can have an idea of what Briere wants but at the end of the day Briere is in the drivers seat. GMs either have to pass or pay the price. At the end of the day GMs know that with 2 more years left, the Flyers dont need to trade him. They will need to make serious offers to get him.

Will Briere stand pat and hold him if the offers arent good enough? Only Briere\Flyers know that answer. The fact they are listening and have named a price means they have interest in moving him.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

With a player the level of Ristolainen, Briere is not in the driver seat. Teams may have interest with retained salary or sending a bad contract back but Ristolainen without that, there isn't going to be much of market. Other GM's know that a team like the Flyers should be looking to move that contract. The Flyers are not in the position that you think they are. If they set too high of a price, that would be irrational and they'd take themselves out of the market.

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take a listen. does this sound like a guy who can lead this team to contention?
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Very soft spoken, jovial, choirboy like. I doubt he can win over Torts in the room.. Jonsey is just a empty suit.

Its About winning games yet what games was Canada winning? Luchenko played better than many Canadian World Jr players, Despite a limited 4th line role. Canada's leading point scorer had 3 points....

I dont watch Bonk so Im not sure what his strengths or weakness are but if a coach is not playing a guy to his strengths how are you concerned with winning? That is exactly like putting Michkov in the role of a defensive checker. That is not his strength and he is not going to play well in that role. The primary role for Michkov should be offensive and whatever Bonk's strengths are should be his primary role. Doesnt mean the coach cant have him do other things but you should be taking advantage of a guys strengths.

The fact that Canada did so poorly in the tourny should evidence enough that the coach was out of his depths.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

In tournaments like that, where you're taking the best players of your country, it's not possible to put every player in a position to play to their strengths. Some players are going to have to play down in the lineup in roles they don't normally play.

Completely agree. I watched the whole tourney and right from the selection of players I knew this team was in trouble. The deployment of the players was even worse. The proof is in the pudding. Horrible result. Luchanko should have been given a bigger role and I get why db was disappointed. You want your players to have big roles and succeed as part of their development. Db is spot on. Team Canada management and coaching were brutal
- Hextall271

Briere's comments were out of line in my opinion.

If those words came out of Chuck Fletcher's mouth the fanbase would be grabbing their torches and pitchforks... but since it's Danny they just nod and slobber along.

I'd be surprised if anybody is traded at the deadline, much less any of the sacred cows.


- Tomahawk

The main thing that bothers me about all this is that he talks like these players are somehow part of some mythical foundation for the future cup winning roster. When the reality is that they haven't even printed the blueprints to create a foundation.

These guys are already talking about how they will decorate when they haven't even started construction.


Sorry for the poor building metaphors.

The truth of the matter is that they have one solid piece to build towards a cup. The pieces they THINK they have, Konecny, Laughton, etc...will be well past their primes when (and if) that happens. Konecny in my opinion has leaped in to the realm of (almost) elite players. But he will be well past being elite by the time this thing gets built, and that is if they started today.


I sincerely hope I am wrong about all of it. This trade deadline will tell us a lot.

Briere's comments were out of line in my opinion.
- MJL

It seems to me from reading a lot of different articles and criticisms, that Hockey Canada suffers from too much politics and hubris.

In tournaments like that, where you're taking the best players of your country, it's not possible to put every player in a position to play to their strengths. Some players are going to have to play down in the lineup in roles they don't normally play.
- MJL

This speaks to some of the criticism they received. They build an all star team instead of a hockey team. Some guy had to play roles they weren't used to because they didnt have guys who could play those roles. Team USA was built much more like a team, and the result was evident.

Its About winning games yet what games was Canada winning? Luchenko played better than many Canadian World Jr players, Despite a limited 4th line role. Canada's leading point scorer had 3 points....

I dont watch Bonk so Im not sure what his strengths or weakness are but if a coach is not playing a guy to his strengths how are you concerned with winning? That is exactly like putting Michkov in the role of a defensive checker. That is not his strength and he is not going to play well in that role. The primary role for Michkov should be offensive and whatever Bonk's strengths are should be his primary role. Doesnt mean the coach cant have him do other things but you should be taking advantage of a guys strengths.

The fact that Canada did so poorly in the tourny should evidence enough that the coach was out of his depths.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

May want to re-read what Briere said about Bonks role.

The main thing that bothers me about all this is that he talks like these players are somehow part of some mythical foundation for the future cup winning roster. When the reality is that they haven't even printed the blueprints to create a foundation.

These guys are already talking about how they will decorate when they haven't even started construction.


Sorry for the poor building metaphors.

The truth of the matter is that they have one solid piece to build towards a cup. The pieces they THINK they have, Konecny, Laughton, etc...will be well past their primes when (and if) that happens. Konecny in my opinion has leaped in to the realm of (almost) elite players. But he will be well past being elite by the time this thing gets built, and that is if they started today.


I sincerely hope I am wrong about all of it. This trade deadline will tell us a lot.
- MBFlyerfan

I have issue with the postering, I get both Laughton and RR still have term, there should be a good offer on both, I want to know what it is.

All the reports and not one asked “how are you going to get an elite C” is the draft not the best, easiest way to get one?

I do think the Flyers have good players, parts that all contenders need, some that are still not in their prime. I am sure that is what DB looks at, 2 years from now, when this core is 27ish. That is fine but does not solve the 1 C N D.

Briere's comments were out of line in my opinion.
- MJL

He seemed very bitter.

He seemed very bitter.
- furio16

You’d think he’d be used to other hockey people not being as impressed by his players as he is by now.

They have about a 9% chance to make the playoffs.
- MJL

Not disagreeing, but where do you get the statistics for that

Thats not at all what Danny is saying. He is saying he wont move Risto just to get rid of him. He's not just speaking to fans at these conferences but other GMs as well. Briere wants the best return possible, he is not going to let GMs think he is desperate to move guys. He is stating that Risto is not a rental so they do not have to take whatever the best offer is on the table. They can wait until they get the offer they want. Briere can still turn around and just take the best deal available but he doesnt want the other GMs to think he will do that so they up their offers.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

That's what I got from that as well, why not try to maximize what you can get, and if the offers are underwhelming no harm in keeping them till next season

Garnet Effing Hathaway has the longest consecutive games played streak for the Flyers at the moment.


Garnet Effing Hathaway..

This speaks to some of the criticism they received. They build an all star team instead of a hockey team. Some guy had to play roles they weren't used to because they didnt have guys who could play those roles. Team USA was built much more like a team, and the result was evident.
- MBFlyerfan

Canada cut a bunch of the more talented kids (Cristall, Tij, Misa, Sennecke, Parekh, Yakemchuk, etc) so they could carry a bunch of role players like Jett, and when the top guys couldn't score there was nobody there to pick up the slack.

They pretty much pulled a Flyers with their team-building... obsessed with playing a certain brand of 200-ft hockey over having enough talent to match up with the other top teams.

Not disagreeing, but where do you get the statistics for that
- SlNlSTER

https://moneypuck.com/predictions.htm

Garnet Effing Hathaway has the longest consecutive games played streak for the Flyers at the moment.


Garnet Effing Hathaway..
- MBFlyerfan

Pretty impressive considering the kind of game he plays

Pretty impressive considering the kind of game he plays
- Dkos

It amazing actually.

Great forecheck by Detroit on that shift.