Their hands were tied with Askarov. He wanted an NHL job. Flyers didnt have the room. Thjey already commited to Fedotov before he was made available. Sergachev was not possible. We didnt have the cap space. Flyers were reportedly in on Jiricek. You all female dog and complain that elite talent isnt available at 13th then cry that the Flyers passed over a 1st pair Dman in Biuim so either Biuim isnt a 1st pair guy or you are all full of poop that elite talent is not available

Draft and develop that is the plan. This team can easily be a bottom 10 team.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

The Flyers tied their own hands by signing a vet goalie to a 3+M cap hit. Same as they did with their entire cap situation. As a rebuilding team, having flexibility to make moves when they prevent themselves is important. It's about having future vision.

Your comment on Buium is a logic fail. It is about percentages. How often does a top pair defense talent fall to 13th? Not often. When it does, you should take advantage of it. Just like when a top elite talent falls to #7.

Their hands were tied with Askarov. He wanted an NHL job. Flyers didnt have the room. Thjey already commited to Fedotov before he was made available. Sergachev was not possible. We didnt have the cap space. Flyers were reportedly in on Jiricek. You all female dog and complain that elite talent isnt available at 13th then cry that the Flyers passed over a 1st pair Dman in Biuim so either Biuim isnt a 1st pair guy or you are all full of poop that elite talent is not available

Draft and develop that is the plan. This team can easily be a bottom 10 team.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

you don't have to defend everything they do.

that isn't a plan. that is what every team in every sport does to an extent. what was Ronalds's plan? I forget.

Yes, that is exactly the plan. What GM of a team with a 10% chance of making the playoffs states that moving a player like Ristolainen would leave a big hole? That's complete incompetence.
- MJL

The only one that is incompetent is you! You refuse to admit you were wrong about Risto, who has clearly become a legitimate top 4 impact defenseman for the Flyers. I told you when Torts and Shaw were hired that Risto for the first time in his career would be properly coached and he would become a much better defenseman and that is exactly what has happened. Anyone with eyes can see how well he has played this entire season, killing plays, using his body at the right times and using his legs to generate offense. I didn't like the extension at the time given where the Flyers were as a team, but right now Risto is a bargain for what he is giving the team.

Briere didn't say he would not trade him, only that he is not looking to trade him. Briere also pointed out that Risto is a big, RHS and skilled defensman that any contending team would covet. Briere is doing exactly what a competent GM does, build up the player and make it clear he is not looking to move him. Briere is maximizing the asset which is his job.

It's called trying to negotiate from a side of strength, why wouldn't any gm try to do that.

Doesn't mean it's gonna work but definitely try
- SlNlSTER

Agreed. I dont think for a second they dont want to move someone out on D. They want Andrae up here. It us just more likely the team is more active around the draft than the TDL. We dont have any rentals outside of EJ. He will be moved but return is going to be irrelevant.

If those words came out of Chuck Fletcher's mouth the fanbase would be grabbing their torches and pitchforks... but since it's Danny they just nod and slobber along.

I'd be surprised if anybody is traded at the deadline, much less any of the sacred cows.


- Tomahawk

I walked away shaking my head. This org is so out of touch.

If anyone wants to read a takedown of GMDB this one is pretty funny. Albeit, a bit much: https://thelibertyline.co...riere-undo-button-flyers/

It was touched on briefly in the game, but teams like Detroit, Ottawa, etc will be looking to add. I'm sure the Rags will too because they won't want to miss the playoffs. Even Columbus will push.

Flyers will be on the outside looking in come March.

The only one that incompetent is you! You refuse to admit you were wrong about Risto, who has clearly become a legitimate top 4 impact defenseman for the Flyers. I told you when Torts and Shaw were hired that Risto for the first time in his career would be properly coached and he would become a much better defenseman and that is exactly what has happened. Anyone with eyes can see how well he has played this entire season, killing plays, using his body at the right times and using his legs to generate offense. I didn't like the extension at the time give where the Flyers were as a team at the time, but right Risto is a bargain for what he is giving the team.

Briere didn't say he would not trade him, only that he is not looking to trade him. Briere also pointed out that Risto is a big, RHS and skilled defensman that any contending team would covet. Briere is doing exactly what a competent GM does, build up the player and make it clear he is not looking to move him. Briere is maximizing the asset which is his job.
- jd250

amazes me "smart" hockey people like yourself really think Danny felating Ristos tires is going to increase his value.

It is clear as day from that press conference he has no interest in moving him. Now if some dope team wants to overpay or meet whatever unrealistic ask he has set then sure he may trade him at that time. Otherwise, he aint going anywhere.

Ask yourself this, if he is as good as you and the Co-GM believe, on a bargain contract, someone they see as integral, why would they move him for pieces that are years away when they are trying to win to an extent now. Plus it is all up to the Coach/CO-GM if he is moved. Not danny the caddy.

As said before you are saying Risto is a top 4 on the flyers doesn't have the effect you think it does.

Agreed. I dont think for a second they dont want to move someone out on D. They want Andrae up here. It us just more likely the team is more active around the draft than the TDL. We dont have any rentals outside of EJ. He will be moved but return is going to be irrelevant.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

they surely have showed that. could have easily been kept up.

Who do they want to move out on D?

The only one that incompetent is you! You refuse to admit you were wrong about Risto, who has clearly become a legitimate top 4 impact defenseman for the Flyers. I told you when Torts and Shaw were hired that Risto for the first time in his career would be properly coached and he would become a much better defenseman and that is exactly what has happened. Anyone with eyes can see how well he has played this entire season, killing plays, using his body at the right times and using his legs to generate offense. I didn't like the extension at the time give where the Flyers were as a team at the time, but right Risto is a bargain for what he is giving the team.


- jd250

Anecdotal fantasy and fallacies. Not supported by the facts.

A bargain. LOL

Briere didn't say he would not trade him, only that he is not looking to trade him. Briere also pointed out that Risto is a big, RHS and skilled defensman that any contending team would covet. Briere is doing exactly what a competent GM does, build up the player and make it clear he is not looking to move him. Briere is maximizing the asset which is his job.
- jd250

I didn't state that he said he wouldn't trade him. That he is not looking to trade him, points to incompetence. He should be looking to trade a mediocre player that is overpaid. He should take whatever decent offer he can get and move on. Briere did not say that contending teams would covet Ristolainen. That is your imagination. It's as if you and a few others think that other NHL GM's are going to have the wool pulled over their eyes with this.

amazes me "smart" hockey people like yourself really think Danny felating Ristos tires is going to increase his value.

It is clear as day from that press conference he has no interest in moving him. Now if some dope team wants to overpay or meet whatever unrealistic ask he has set then sure he may trade him at that time. Otherwise, he aint going anywhere.

Ask yourself this, if he is as good as you and the Co-GM believe, on a bargain contract, someone they see as integral, why would they move him for pieces that are years away when they are trying to win to an extent now. Plus it is all up to the Coach/CO-GM if he is moved. Not danny the caddy.

As said before you are saying Risto is a top 4 on the flyers doesn't have the effect you think it does.
- login

all of GMDBs fellating over Laugthon has done wonders for his trade value.

I walked away shaking my head. This org is so out of touch.

If anyone wants to read a takedown of GMDB this one is pretty funny. Albeit, a bit much: https://thelibertyline.co...riere-undo-button-flyers/
- Flyfly

funny read. not bad either.

funny read. not bad either.
- login

The writer went all in LOL.

all of GMDBs fellating over Laugthon has done wonders for his trade value.

- Flyfly

those guys value is pretty much set. unless something drastic happens.

He clearly has no interest in trading these guys. Fine. Other GM's will eventually sour on both and go in other directions as they will not want to deal with Briere when they see he wants way too much and probably won't budge.

I walked away shaking my head. This org is so out of touch.

If anyone wants to read a takedown of GMDB this one is pretty funny. Albeit, a bit much: https://thelibertyline.co...riere-undo-button-flyers/
- Flyfly

That's a pretty poorly written article. The author is an ass in my opinion.

That's a pretty poorly written article. The author is an ass in my opinion.
- MJL

definitely a bit much LOL.

definitely a bit much LOL.
- Flyfly

Calling Briere a scumbag is over the top. I also don't believe that Briere is scared to make moves. I think they desperately want to make moves.

Calling Briere a scumbag is over the top. I also don't believe that Briere is scared to make moves. I think they desperately want to make moves.
- MJL

he is def scared to make the non easy moves. Proof is in the pudding so far.

you don't have to defend everything they do.

that isn't a plan. that is what every team in every sport does to an extent. what was Ronalds's plan? I forget.
- login

I dont. Hextall's plan was draft and Develop. Guess what? Rebuilding isnt a guarantee. Look how long it took EDM to get good. They had to draft in the top 10, 10 out of 12 years from 2007 to 2019. If Hextall grabbed Makar or Heiskanen instead of Nolan Patrick things would have been a lot different for him

I walked away shaking my head. This org is so out of touch.

If anyone wants to read a takedown of GMDB this one is pretty funny. Albeit, a bit much: https://thelibertyline.co...riere-undo-button-flyers/
- Flyfly

That was pretty funny. I definitely agree with the writer that that press conference was just pointless nothingness and that Briere comes off as too paralyzed by fear of making a mistake to make any real moves.

I walked away shaking my head. This org is so out of touch.

If anyone wants to read a takedown of GMDB this one is pretty funny. Albeit, a bit much: https://thelibertyline.co...riere-undo-button-flyers/
- Flyfly

Been awhile since I've read the word "asshat" in an article.

I walked away shaking my head. This org is so out of touch.

If anyone wants to read a takedown of GMDB this one is pretty funny. Albeit, a bit much: https://thelibertyline.co...riere-undo-button-flyers/
- Flyfly

Geez you'd think Briere banged this guys wife with the way this was written

That was pretty funny. I definitely agree with the writer that that press conference was just pointless nothingness and that Briere comes off as too paralyzed by fear of making a mistake to make any real moves.
- Dkos

Are they ever? GMs dont tip their hats. Press conferences are really there to appease the fans. It is like how businesses hold press conferences to keep shareholders happy. Its always going to be positive spin + buzzwords with vague answers

That's a pretty poorly written article. The author is an ass in my opinion.
- MJL

I don’t know what The Liberty Line is exactly, but I don’t think it’s trying to be journalism. Just seems to be opinion pieces. His writing is better than what I’ve been reading here of late.

I dont. Hextall's plan was draft and Develop. Guess what? Rebuilding isnt a guarantee. Look how long it took EDM to get good. They had to draft in the top 10, 10 out of 12 years from 2007 to 2019. If Hextall grabbed Makar or Heiskanen instead of Nolan Patrick things would have been a lot different for him
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Hextall was and is a bad gm, ill never understand ppl love for his time here as a gm

amazes me "smart" hockey people like yourself really think Danny felating Ristos tires is going to increase his value.

It is clear as day from that press conference he has no interest in moving him. Now if some dope team wants to overpay or meet whatever unrealistic ask he has set then sure he may trade him at that time. Otherwise, he aint going anywhere.

Ask yourself this, if he is as good as you and the Co-GM believe, on a bargain contract, someone they see as integral, why would they move him for pieces that are years away when they are trying to win to an extent now. Plus it is all up to the Coach/CO-GM if he is moved. Not danny the caddy.

As said before you are saying Risto is a top 4 on the flyers doesn't have the effect you think it does.
- login

Risto is a legitimate top 4 RHS NHL defenseman on *any* team, period. The GM stated clearly he is NOT shopping Risto because he would leave a big hole in the lineup and he is not a rental so there is no rush to move him. However, like any good GM, its Briere's duty to listen to all offers and if something makes sense for the future of the team he would consider it. But right now, it's clear unless Briere is blown away he is not moving Risto, nor should he.

The Flyers are not tanking. They are not getting rid of players just to get more draft picks or free up cap space. They understand that going down the tanking road year after year is a slippery slope and very hard to get out of. They are going to be patient, free up more cap space, give their younger players time to develop, build a winning culture and when the time is right, pull the trigger on a FA signing or a good hockey trade. Torts will continue to be their coach. They will continue to play the style they play, and that's that. So I suggest you all just sit back and root for the team to succeed, and enjoy the ride this year.