Move David Kampf or Jarnkrok. Both are not worth $2.1m and $2.4m for what they bring to the table with 3rd and 4th line minutes. Kampf has minimal offensive ability, can't cycle a puck in the offensive zone, doesnt hit and is soft. Kampf is a decent penalty killer, but not elite. Jarnkrok is approaching his mid 30s and has been injured. Time to move on.
Take a serious look at moving Max Domi. He may be more useful as the games get tighter, but right now he's just going through the motions. Nick Robertson's trade stock will never be higher.
I'd like to see the Leafs acquire Dylan Cozens or Barrett Hayton. Both players are approaching their mid 20s, both have under performed from their draft stock. Both need a change of scenery. Look at what Dylan Holloway has provided St Louis with after being a 4th line - 11 minutes a night plug in Edm.
Move David Kampf or Jarnkrok. Both are not worth $2.1m and $2.4m for what they bring to the table with 3rd and 4th line minutes. Kampf has minimal offensive ability, can't cycle a puck in the offensive zone, doesnt hit and is soft. Kampf is a decent penalty killer, but not elite. Jarnkrok is approaching his mid 30s and has been injured. Time to move on.
Take a serious look at moving Max Domi. He may be more useful as the games get tighter, but right now he's just going through the motions. Nick Robertson's trade stock will never be higher.
I'd like to see the Leafs acquire Dylan Cozens or Barrett Hayton. Both players are approaching their mid 20s, both have under performed from their draft stock. Both need a change of scenery. Look at what Dylan Holloway has provided St Louis with after being a 4th line - 11 minutes a night plug in Edm. - WendelClark82
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Tuesday @ 11:24 AM ET
Things the Leafs needs to do before the deadline:
Move David Kampf or Jarnkrok. Both are not worth $2.1m and $2.4m for what they bring to the table with 3rd and 4th line minutes. Kampf has minimal offensive ability, can't cycle a puck in the offensive zone, doesnt hit and is soft. Kampf is a decent penalty killer, but not elite. Jarnkrok is approaching his mid 30s and has been injured. Time to move on.
Take a serious look at moving Max Domi. He may be more useful as the games get tighter, but right now he's just going through the motions. Nick Robertson's trade stock will never be higher.
I'd like to see the Leafs acquire Dylan Cozens or Barrett Hayton. Both players are approaching their mid 20s, both have under performed from their draft stock. Both need a change of scenery. Look at what Dylan Holloway has provided St Louis with after being a 4th line - 11 minutes a night plug in Edm. - WendelClark82
I wouldn’t be shocked if Domi was moved. I don’t see where he fits in playoff hockey (especially for the $) and when they add a 3C and guys are healthy.
Move David Kampf or Jarnkrok. Both are not worth $2.1m and $2.4m for what they bring to the table with 3rd and 4th line minutes. Kampf has minimal offensive ability, can't cycle a puck in the offensive zone, doesnt hit and is soft. Kampf is a decent penalty killer, but not elite. Jarnkrok is approaching his mid 30s and has been injured. Time to move on.
Take a serious look at moving Max Domi. He may be more useful as the games get tighter, but right now he's just going through the motions. Nick Robertson's trade stock will never be higher.
I'd like to see the Leafs acquire Dylan Cozens or Barrett Hayton. Both players are approaching their mid 20s, both have under performed from their draft stock. Both need a change of scenery. Look at what Dylan Holloway has provided St Louis with after being a 4th line - 11 minutes a night plug in Edm. - WendelClark82
Why are we trading Jarnkrok? He is cheap and can score on a 20 goal pace while providing PK and speeed. Would be silly he is exactly a player the leafs need and is free. For only 2M.
If Buffalo trades Cozens it will be like the Midlstad trade...Leafs don't have that, will not happen. Why is Utah trading 24 year old Hayton? Their GM said they are done with the rebuild, will still look to get better in the future as well but trading him for picks and prospects is a setback.
Domi? Maybe in the offseason but if they need to make room they will use Kampf and get a cheap 4th C to replace him.
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Tuesday @ 11:49 AM ET
Things the Leafs needs to do before the deadline:
Move David Kampf or Jarnkrok. Both are not worth $2.1m and $2.4m for what they bring to the table with 3rd and 4th line minutes. Kampf has minimal offensive ability, can't cycle a puck in the offensive zone, doesnt hit and is soft. Kampf is a decent penalty killer, but not elite. Jarnkrok is approaching his mid 30s and has been injured. Time to move on.
Take a serious look at moving Max Domi. He may be more useful as the games get tighter, but right now he's just going through the motions. Nick Robertson's trade stock will never be higher.
I'd like to see the Leafs acquire Dylan Cozens or Barrett Hayton. Both players are approaching their mid 20s, both have under performed from their draft stock. Both need a change of scenery. Look at what Dylan Holloway has provided St Louis with after being a 4th line - 11 minutes a night plug in Edm. - WendelClark82
I would keep jarnie for now, but if an upgrade is available. Go ahead.
As expected Domi hasnt been able meet previous expectations. But not sure he can be moved yet.
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Tuesday @ 12:13 PM ET
Wendel Clark said in a recent interview that he likes the way the team is settling into Berube's system and thinks the team can "do some damage" in the postseason.
Wendel Clark said in a recent interview that he likes the way the team is settling into Berube's system and thinks the team can "do some damage" in the postseason.
Wendel Clark said in a recent interview that he likes the way the team is settling into Berube's system and thinks the team can "do some damage" in the postseason.
Move David Kampf or Jarnkrok. Both are not worth $2.1m and $2.4m for what they bring to the table with 3rd and 4th line minutes. Kampf has minimal offensive ability, can't cycle a puck in the offensive zone, doesnt hit and is soft. Kampf is a decent penalty killer, but not elite. Jarnkrok is approaching his mid 30s and has been injured. Time to move on.
Take a serious look at moving Max Domi. He may be more useful as the games get tighter, but right now he's just going through the motions. Nick Robertson's trade stock will never be higher.
I'd like to see the Leafs acquire Dylan Cozens or Barrett Hayton. Both players are approaching their mid 20s, both have under performed from their draft stock. Both need a change of scenery. Look at what Dylan Holloway has provided St Louis with after being a 4th line - 11 minutes a night plug in Edm. - WendelClark82
Completely agree on Kampf and Jarnkrok. They're both soft and ineffective playoff guys who have been given many chances and have sucked. Both overpaid and now injured. Time to move on from both for sure.
Domi, however, they should keep. He's had a few good playoff runs and while he has absolutely sucked for most of this season, the hope of playoff performance is worth the wait for now.
Robertson, agreed, move on. If the Sabres are dumb enough to give you Cozens, I would take it. But he's scored 30 before and they got burned on giving up Reinhart, they might not do it again. Hayton would be nice too but Utah is fighting for the playoffs and he's still a young former 5th overall pick. But if you can rip off another team, always better for us.
1 playoff goal, 3 playoff points in 18 playoff games with the Leafs.
5 career playoff goals in 93 career playoff games.
Leafs need guys who step UP in the playoffs, not down. Especially with the core the Leafs currently have.
For all the reasons you love ROR (he's never coming back) is all the reasons why the Leafs should be removing players like Jarnkrok, Kampf, Reaves etc.
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Tuesday @ 1:42 PM ET
I did a few days ago..
I said it looks like alcoholism is taking a much greater toll on Dougie than Wendel. - Arctic_AARDVARK
Living in that commie socialist hellhole will drive any legend to drink. They should come down to sunny Florida and live the good life. Free spray tans and meth.
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Tuesday @ 1:44 PM ET
Things the Leafs needs to do before the deadline:
Move David Kampf or Jarnkrok. Both are not worth $2.1m and $2.4m for what they bring to the table with 3rd and 4th line minutes. Kampf has minimal offensive ability, can't cycle a puck in the offensive zone, doesnt hit and is soft. Kampf is a decent penalty killer, but not elite. Jarnkrok is approaching his mid 30s and has been injured. Time to move on.
Take a serious look at moving Max Domi. He may be more useful as the games get tighter, but right now he's just going through the motions. Nick Robertson's trade stock will never be higher.
I'd like to see the Leafs acquire Dylan Cozens or Barrett Hayton. Both players are approaching their mid 20s, both have under performed from their draft stock. Both need a change of scenery. Look at what Dylan Holloway has provided St Louis with after being a 4th line - 11 minutes a night plug in Edm. - WendelClark82
Even without a trade . . In the top-6 you probably have Knies, Matthews, Marner, Pacioretty, Tavares and Nylander. Then you want to carve your identity lines - What is line 3? Is line 3 a checking line and line 4 is a physical line? Is line 3 also a scoring line and line 4 doubles as an energy/checking line?
Because when you look at Robertson, Domi and McMann you have the makings of some type of scoring line. Then you have Lorentz, Holmberg, Kampf, Jarnkrok, Reaves and Dewar - this ignores Grebenkin, Minten and Quillan for now.
So you have 9 guys for 6 spots and what those spots do should be defined by what the team wants them to do. Do they believe in a 3rd scoring line? Do they think they can make an actual effective checking line on Line 3?
Honestly if you made line 3 as Lorentz-Domi-McMann you might have the size to make Domi effective with net crashers who could highlight his passing and some decent speed to boot - along with defensive responsibility from the wings. Domi needs someone who creates space for him - like the way Matthews drew attention away from him - it just gave him that extra half second to move with the puck.
Line 4 could be Dewar - Kampf - Jarnkrok with Reaves in the wings for when you want to suck a little bit more. An alternative is to keep Line 4 more physical and move Lorentz here instead of Janrkrok and put him on line 3 - but I have to admit I like the way Lorentz plays and his size and I'd rather he were rolled out for more bottom-6 minutes.
Trade Robertson and demote Holmberg. I'd, for the record, be fine with demoting Reaves - I just know they won't.
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Plenty of meth and fentanyl in Canada, don't you worry. Free needles too.
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Tuesday @ 1:51 PM ET
1 playoff goal, 3 playoff points in 18 playoff games with the Leafs.
5 career playoff goals in 93 career playoff games.
Leafs need guys who step UP in the playoffs, not down. Especially with the core the Leafs currently have.
For all the reasons you love ROR (he's never coming back) is all the reasons why the Leafs should be removing players like Jarnkrok, Kampf, Reaves etc. - Rare_Jewel
One of our best checking forwards in 1992-93 was Mark Osborne; 1 goal, 1 assist in 19 games. He'd had 12g and 14a in the regular season. He was better in 93 when he had 4 goals and 2 assists in 18 games. The rest of that line:
Bill Berg also had 1 goal and 1 assist in 19 games. The next year he had 1 goal and 2 assists.
Peter Zezel had 2 goals and 1 assist in 92-93. He had 2g/4a the next year.
If the players are doing their job and they can effectively do their role, I don't need them to score. I need them to support their team.
Jarnkrok is an effective support player - don't expect him to be a lead guy.
Trade Robertson and demote Holmberg. I'd, for the record, be fine with demoting Reaves - I just know they won't. - Monkeypunk
Absolutely also get rid of Holmberg. He's weak and sucks. Robertson is also tiny and sucks at everything that isn't shooting.
Unfortunately, we all know they refuse to get rid of Reaves but can they at least get a goon that can play hockey? They want a cement head on the team, fine, but get a good one who is closer to 25 than he is 40.
Are there no advanced stats to show there's at least one available goon that can still play hockey?
One of our best checking forwards in 1992-93 was Mark Osborne; 1 goal, 1 assist in 19 games. He'd had 12g and 14a in the regular season. He was better in 93 when he had 4 goals and 2 assists in 18 games. The rest of that line:
Bill Berg also had 1 goal and 1 assist in 19 games. The next year he had 1 goal and 2 assists.
Peter Zezel had 2 goals and 1 assist in 92-93. He had 2g/4a the next year.
If the players are doing their job and they can effectively do their role, I don't need them to score. I need them to support their team.
Jarnkrok is an effective support player - don't expect him to be a lead guy. - Monkeypunk
You forgot the other half of the equation which was Gilmour, Clark and Andreychuk scored in the playoffs with no problem. The Leafs could afford to have a line that did not provide supplementary scoring at that time.
Also, as nice as that 92-94 run was ultimately it was unsuccessful. I prefer to look at Cup winners or at worst finalists.
Unfortunately, our current core has problems scoring in the playoffs. That means our bottom-six guys have to chip in more than just 1 goal every 20 games.
Does that mean I expect Jarnkrok to score 10 playoff goals? Absolutely not. But, more like Zezel, who use to be a very effective scorer, we need guys who can contribute more than just sit in their own zone for 15 min a game.
Think of Cirelli as the best possible example. Scored 9 goals in the regular season but had 5 goals and 12 points in 23 playoff games when they most recently won the Cup. Obviously, we can't get Cirelli, but a guy who can score 3-5 goals and 10 playoff points is better than what Jarnkrok and Kampf have already proven they can't provide.
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Tuesday @ 1:56 PM ET
One of our best checking forwards in 1992-93 was Mark Osborne; 1 goal, 1 assist in 19 games. He'd had 12g and 14a in the regular season. He was better in 93 when he had 4 goals and 2 assists in 18 games. The rest of that line:
Bill Berg also had 1 goal and 1 assist in 19 games. The next year he had 1 goal and 2 assists.
Peter Zezel had 2 goals and 1 assist in 92-93. He had 2g/4a the next year. - Monkeypunk
Living in that commie socialist hellhole will drive any legend to drink. They should come down to sunny Florida and live the good life. Free spray tans and meth. - GalacticStone
Florida has 40 years tops before the Greenland glaciers melt and sinks the state.
