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neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Tuesday @ 2:04 PM ET
Where is the sentence stating that Miller "asked" for a leave of absence?
- Marwood

When he takes a leave of absense for personal reasons, that implies he asked for one. Marijuana REALLY effects the memory with some
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Tuesday @ 2:17 PM ET
When he takes a leave of absense for personal reasons, that implies he asked for one. Marijuana REALLY effects the memory with some
- neem55


Having something implied and stating something are quite different.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Tuesday @ 2:18 PM ET
Was that before or after "tough guy" asked for time off cause the coach benched him?
- neem55

He was told to leave
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Tuesday @ 2:21 PM ET
When he takes a leave of absense for personal reasons, that implies he asked for one. Marijuana REALLY effects the memory with some
- neem55


Of course it does, son.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Tuesday @ 2:22 PM ET
Having something implied and stating something are quite different.
- NewYorkNuck

Yup.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Tuesday @ 2:25 PM ET
He was told to leave
- CanuckDon

According to who? I haven't seen a single thing say that other than people on here making it up. The team statement is he took a leave for personal reasons, turns out the reason is being a baby.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Tuesday @ 2:25 PM ET
Trade imminent?

Vancouver Canucks
@Canucks
General Manager Patrik Allvin announced today that F Aatu Räty has been recalled from Abbotsford (AHL).


Would make sense with Ruthy's interview.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Tuesday @ 2:26 PM ET
Having something implied and stating something are quite different.
- NewYorkNuck
Show me any evidence then. Only thing I have seen is he took a leave of absence for personal reasons.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Tuesday @ 2:28 PM ET

Of course it does, son.

- Marwood

I did forget that implies might be too big of a word for you, my bad on that one. Personal Leave is something you ask for, when you have a job, just to clarify. The team could suspend him, but leave is on the person taking it.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Tuesday @ 2:32 PM ET
I did forget that implies might be too big of a word for you, my bad on that one. Personal Leave is something you ask for, when you have a job, just to clarify. The team could suspend him, but leave is on the person taking it.
- neem55

The hill you're dying on.

I love your smartest guy in the room routine, very entertaining.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson USA
Joined: 07.01.2007

Tuesday @ 2:32 PM ET
Show me any evidence then. Only thing I have seen is he took a leave of absence for personal reasons.
- neem55



Farhan Lalji
@FarhanLaljiTSN

Tocchet insists that JT Miller is not injured. He’s downplayed injuries before. Miller was asked, with the understanding he wouldn’t be expected to provide specifics, “I think you just answered your own question.” and added, “I’m good”
#Canucks
@TSNHockey
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Tuesday @ 2:33 PM ET
Trade imminent?



Would make sense with Ruthy's interview.

- NewYorkNuck


Or they want to run a bit with Suter on the wing in the top 6. Or both. To me Boeser is the likely first domino. He could easily have priced himself out of the market.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Tuesday @ 2:33 PM ET
Trade imminent?



Would make sense with Ruthy's interview.

- NewYorkNuck

Perhaps Miller has asked for another personal leave of absence.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Tuesday @ 2:34 PM ET
I did forget that implies might be too big of a word for you, my bad on that one. Personal Leave is something you ask for, when you have a job, just to clarify. The team could suspend him, but leave is on the person taking it.
- neem55


No it isn't.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson USA
Joined: 07.01.2007

Tuesday @ 2:36 PM ET
Or they want to run a bit with Suter on the wing in the top 6. Or both. To me Boeser is the likely first domino. He could easily have priced himself out of the market.
- Load Management

Nice kid, Suter, but he needs to be trade for a 3rd or whatever they can get for him. Sasson can do his job.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Tuesday @ 2:41 PM ET
Nice kid, Suter, but he needs to be trade for a 3rd or whatever they can get for him. Sasson can do his job.
- Pacificgem


If that's gonna happen there's really no need until closer to the trade deadline. You'll get more for him and it gives you more flexibility to move another Winger or Centre.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson USA
Joined: 07.01.2007

Tuesday @ 2:41 PM ET
So guys, this is what happened, in a nutshell. Not verbatim.

When Petey signed his new deal Miller kinda took it personal that it was so much more than his, he was always hard on Petey but he took it to another level because he felt like he needed to hold Petey to a certain standard based on his contract. He was relentless on the kid, apparently.

Not only is that not his job, to hold another player to a contract standard, it got to the point where it was outright abusive. You can hold a player to on-ice standards (missed assignment/laziness), but it ends there player vs player. That's when Tocchet stepped in and said "enough". Miller then had it out with Tocchet, not a good career move. He was asked to remove himself from the team.

There, that's what I was told from ex-players who kind of dug into the situation.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson USA
Joined: 07.01.2007

Tuesday @ 2:44 PM ET
Dhaliwal: After hearing Rutherford today, I have to believe both are going to get traded.

Donnie Dhali
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Tuesday @ 2:46 PM ET
No it isn't.
- Load Management

Yes, it is. Im shop stewart at my office and have signed off on leave of absences many times.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Tuesday @ 2:48 PM ET
So guys, this is what happened, in a nutshell. Not verbatim.

When Petey signed his new deal Miller kinda took it personal that it was so much more than his, he was always hard on Petey but he took it to another level because he felt like he needed to hold Petey to a certain standard based on his contract. He was relentless on the kid, apparently.

Not only is that not his job, to hold another player to a contract standard, it got to the point where it was outright abusive. You can hold a player to on-ice standards, but it ends there player vs player. That's when Tocchet stepped in and said "enough". Miller then had it out with Tocchet, not a good career move. He was asked to remove himself from the team.

There, that's what I was told from ex players who kind of dug into the situation.

- Pacificgem

Cool, now can you print that slowly so that Neem has a chance of understanding.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Tuesday @ 2:48 PM ET
Dhaliwal: After hearing Rutherford today, I have to believe both are going to get traded.

Donnie Dhali

- Pacificgem


Good.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Tuesday @ 2:51 PM ET
Cool, now can you print that slowly so that Neem has a chance of understanding.
- Marwood

That isn’t evidence, saying that a random hockey buzz poster talked to ex-players. (e4) from the Roxy
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Tuesday @ 2:54 PM ET
Yes, it is. Im shop stewart at my office and have signed off on leave of absences many times.
- neem55


I just witnessed a workplace scenario where someone was asked to take a personal leave to look after their substance abuse issues or lose their job. Guess which option they took. As a Shop Steward you should know there's more than one singular way personal leaves work. For the sake of the workers you represent, educate yourself.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Tuesday @ 3:03 PM ET
I just witnessed a workplace scenario where someone was asked to take a personal leave to look after their substance abuse issues or lose their job. Guess which opinion they took. As a Shop Steward you should know there's more than one singular way personal leaves work. For the sake of the workers you represent, educate yourself.
- Load Management

Thank you.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Tuesday @ 3:07 PM ET
Show me any evidence then. Only thing I have seen is he took a leave of absence for personal reasons.
- neem55


I'm not saying that he definitely was asked. You're saying it was "stated" he took the leave, then backtracked to "it was implied". Those aren't the same things.

As Loady said, I could ask my boss for a personal leave, or my boss could tell me I should take a personal leave to get my head straight. Being on personal leave doesn't relay one way or the other who initiated it.
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