Hope it happens!
- VanHockeyGuy

Would be the only thing that makes sense for a return IMO.

However, the more I think about it, if these "JTM as bully" narratives are true... he's gotta be traded no matter what. If you're going to bring new and young guys into the room, there's nothing to say he won't start ragging on them or causing another problem in the room.

Would be the only thing that makes sense for a return IMO.

However, the more I think about it, if these "JTM as bully" narratives are true... he's gotta be traded no matter what. If you're going to bring new and young guys into the room, there's nothing to say he won't start ragging on them or causing another problem in the room.
- NewYorkNuck

Both of them need to go, start with a clean slate.

Both of them need to go, start with a clean slate.
- VanHockeyGuy

Yup

Both of them need to go, start with a clean slate.
- VanHockeyGuy

Would you not want to see how EP performs at first after getting rid of JTM? During the time JTM was away EP looked a lot better IMO, 15 points in those 10 games

Would you not want to see how EP performs at first after getting rid of JTM? During the time JTM was away EP looked a lot better IMO, 15 points in those 10 games
- Canuck204

No. Not tough enough doesn't put in enough effort. There's reasons JT is hard on him. Move them both i can't believe how mad I am at these two whiny jack asses

Would you not want to see how EP performs at first after getting rid of JTM? During the time JTM was away EP looked a lot better IMO, 15 points in those 10 games
- Canuck204

I would wait. Trade JTM before 4 nations. If need be, trade Petey before the draft.

I would wait. Trade JTM before 4 nations. If need be, trade Petey before the draft.
- NewYorkNuck

EP116 deadline is July 1st, hopefully he's gone much sooner.

EP116 deadline is July 1st, hopefully he's gone much sooner.
- VanHockeyGuy

Yup as a petey supporter all I can say now is (frank) that guy

I would wait. Trade JTM before 4 nations. If need be, trade Petey before the draft.
- NewYorkNuck

Speaking of 4 Nations, I wonder if JT takes a run at Petey and takes his head off? Sweden vs USA

EP116 deadline is July 1st, hopefully he's gone much sooner.
- VanHockeyGuy

Something is off with him, I saw a stat on X today about his speed, before his knee tendinitis he was in the top 20% of the league, speed wise. I'll search for the post.

Also, his wrist injury affected his ability to take the slapshot from the right half-wall on the PP, he doesn't do it anymore, or rarely. Is he the modern day version of Barry Pederson? Is it all downhill from here on in with injuries?

https://x.com/TrevBeggs/status/1884596105339383884

https://x.com/ChesterM222...tatus/1868334323419824201

Would you not want to see how EP performs at first after getting rid of JTM? During the time JTM was away EP looked a lot better IMO, 15 points in those 10 games
- Canuck204

No, seen enough of him. Time for him to go to another team.

Something is off with him, I saw a stat on X today about his speed, before his knee tendinitis he was in the top 20% of the league, speed wise. I'll search for the post.

Also, his wrist injury affected his ability to take the slapshot from the right half-wall on the PP, he doesn't do it anymore, or rarely. Is he the modern day version of Barry Pederson? Is it all downhill from here on in with injuries?
- Pacificgem

Yup, the flags are up. You can't let him get past July 1st.

Something is off with him, I saw a stat on X today about his speed, before his knee tendinitis he was in the top 20% of the league, speed wise. I'll search for the post.

Also, his wrist injury affected his ability to take the slapshot from the right half-wall on the PP, he doesn't do it anymore, or rarely. Is he the modern day version of Barry Pederson? Is it all downhill from here on in with injuries?

https://x.com/TrevBeggs/status/1884596105339383884

https://x.com/ChesterM222...tatus/1868334323419824201
- Pacificgem

There was this post I referenced on Reddit.. it's long but goes into the whole injury thing and speed impact and timeline etc.

https://www.reddit.com/r/..._here_and_whats_going_on/

He mentioned it impacted his off-season training. Maybe that adds to the narrative he's lazy or came to camp unprepared? Tendinitis usually requires rest more than anything, so trying to strike a balance of not continually aggravating it plus resting it more than normal... his speed is definitely way down though.

There was this post I referenced on Reddit.. it's long but goes into the whole injury thing and speed impact and timeline etc.

https://www.reddit.com/r/..._here_and_whats_going_on/

He mentioned it impacted his off-season training. Maybe that adds to the narrative he's lazy or came to camp unprepared? Tendinitis usually requires rest more than anything, so trying to strike a balance of not continually aggravating it plus resting it more than normal... his speed is definitely way down though.
- NewYorkNuck

He could explode once traded but I don't care. I'm sick of his attitude and I doubt he wins a cup where he goes cause he his going to be able to play through top centers on contenders in the playoffs. Get rid of him

There was this post I referenced on Reddit.. it's long but goes into the whole injury thing and speed impact and timeline etc.

https://www.reddit.com/r/..._here_and_whats_going_on/

He mentioned it impacted his off-season training. Maybe that adds to the narrative he's lazy or came to camp unprepared? Tendinitis usually requires rest more than anything, so trying to strike a balance of not continually aggravating it plus resting it more than normal... his speed is definitely way down though.
- NewYorkNuck

He needs more of these, this will cure anything!!!

https://x.com/PicturesFoI...tatus/1884339469613973744

He needs more of these, this will cure anything!!!

https://x.com/PicturesFoI...tatus/1884339469613973744
- Pacificgem

Proper Hotdog 🌭 for sure. Pepper is a great touch.

Would you not want to see how EP performs at first after getting rid of JTM? During the time JTM was away EP looked a lot better IMO, 15 points in those 10 games
- Canuck204

If EP will only try when Miller isn’t around he is a cancer. EP the cancer needs to go

There was this post I referenced on Reddit.. it's long but goes into the whole injury thing and speed impact and timeline etc.

https://www.reddit.com/r/..._here_and_whats_going_on/

He mentioned it impacted his off-season training. Maybe that adds to the narrative he's lazy or came to camp unprepared? Tendinitis usually requires rest more than anything, so trying to strike a balance of not continually aggravating it plus resting it more than normal... his speed is definitely way down though.
- NewYorkNuck

More excuses!

If EP will only try when Miller isn’t around he is a cancer. EP the cancer needs to go
- CanuckDon

I think they both need to go, but the returns are not going to be pretty. It could get ugly, like you, if they don't get a #1 center back.

Proper Hotdog 🌭 for sure. Pepper is a great touch.
- VanHockeyGuy

If EP will only try when Miller isn’t around he is a cancer. EP the cancer needs to go
- CanuckDon

100%

I hope we win again tonight.

I think they both need to go, but the returns are not going to be pretty. It could get ugly, like you, if they don't get a #1 center back.
- Pacificgem

They won't get a #1 center back. Ruthy knows that, basically said as much. Best you can hope for is a #2 and something else you can flip to fill other holes.

They won't get a #1 center back. Ruthy knows that, basically said as much. Best you can hope for is a #2 and something else you can flip to fill other holes.
- NewYorkNuck

Even a low-end one is a must, or the team is in big trouble of losing Hughes and heading back to the Benning years....the worst years in Canucks history in terms of losing.

Even a low-end one is a must, or the team is in big trouble of losing Hughes and heading back to the Benning years....the worst years in Canucks history in terms of losing.
- Pacificgem

I don't buy that... I don't think the need to get a 1C back is a must in a trade. I hope they keep Petey and he's the 1C, but if they trade them both then there won't necessarily be an established 1C coming back. They have to make a secondary trade in the off-season for one, just like they did when they flipped the 1st for Hronek.