Luckily for that price increase fans will get to enjoy Jett's rookie season as he replaces forrmer Flyer Morgan Frost. Fear not, the rest of the team will remain in tact.

Might I suggest the Flyers offer giveaways to the fans everytime the team score 2 PP goals in game. Mind you, this has happened exactly 1 time under Rocky's leadership. He's getting better from all the seasons of failure. Comcast cares about the fans.

Hindsight is 20/20. At the time I was in favor of the extension because I looked at Couts as a similar play to Patrice Bergeron who could play good hockey and provide excellent leadership well into his 30s. The back injuries have messed up Couts, there is no doubt about it. Who knew at the time?
- jd250[/quote]
No one knew at the time, but if you "ran the numbers" you could predict that what happened was a reasonably possible outcome given all the miles he logged and the type of game he plays. Couturier is the cautionary tale of why you do not give 30yo's 8-year deals

I don’t put much stock in the following site’s postings, but this one seems to crystallize many Flyers’ fans views of the current front office, specifically GMDB and his lack of guts to makes any type of aggressive moves.

https://brotherlypuck.com...strating-for-flyers-fans/

I agree but the only issue is that Ristolainen is not a physical and skilled top 4 NHL defenseman. He is a mediocre 3rd pair defenseman with a bad contract. If the Flyers would be willing to retain salary or take a bad contract back, he'll have some value.
- MJL

You are now officially dead, courtesy of Mt. Risto!

So MM first on the ice today, 10 minutes by himself, love the kids attitude.
- wcorvette

He is going to be a great NHL player, we just have to be patient and let the coaches do their job with him.

He is going to be a great NHL player, we just have to be patient and let the coaches do their job with him.
- jd250

The sooner he gets away from this coaching staff the better.

The sooner he gets away from this coaching staff the better.
- MBFlyerfan

Amen!

He is going to be a great NHL player, we just have to be patient and let the coaches do their job with him.
- jd250

They will do a job on him. What can he possibly learn from Rocky I wonder.

I don’t put much stock in the following site’s postings, but this one seems to crystallize many Flyers’ fans views of the current front office, specifically GMDB and his lack of guts to makes any type of aggressive moves.

https://brotherlypuck.com...strating-for-flyers-fans/
- mikeyo27

That’s definitely one section of the fan base. I’m not quite where this guy is, but I’m also not willing to give DB the benefit of the doubt anymore. There have been quite a few mis steps in his short tenure that a lot of his fan club seem to gloss over. If this becomes a Sellers market at this years trade deadline (which is trending that way) then Briere’s whole shtick of a rebuild will be put to the test. With so many teams looking to buy….teams like the Flyers should be aggressive in trying to fill those needs of the buying clubs….i keep hearing….oh it’s about the off season….what a crock of shiit. A rebuilding team should be always on the look out for BUILDING opportunities because they don’t always wait for the draft weekend. Briere’s ineptness and excuses are starting to look eerily similar to that of Fletchers regime.

That’s definitely one section of the fan base. I’m not quite where this guy is, but I’m also not willing to give DB the benefit of the doubt anymore. There have been quite a few mis steps in his short tenure that a lot of his fan club seem to gloss over. If this becomes a Sellers market at this years trade deadline (which is trending that way) then Briere’s whole shtick of a rebuild will be put to the test. With so many teams looking to buy….teams like the Flyers should be aggressive in trying to fill those needs of the buying clubs….i keep hearing….oh it’s about the off season….what a crock of shiit. A rebuilding team should be always on the look out for BUILDING opportunities because they don’t always wait for the draft weekend. Briere’s ineptness and excuses are starting to look eerily similar to that of Fletchers regime.
- landros 2

They should have been sellers last year and weren't. What makes you think they will change course this year?

That’s definitely one section of the fan base. I’m not quite where this guy is, but I’m also not willing to give DB the benefit of the doubt anymore. There have been quite a few mis steps in his short tenure that a lot of his fan club seem to gloss over. If this becomes a Sellers market at this years trade deadline (which is trending that way) then Briere’s whole shtick of a rebuild will be put to the test. With so many teams looking to buy….teams like the Flyers should be aggressive in trying to fill those needs of the buying clubs….i keep hearing….oh it’s about the off season….what a crock of shiit. A rebuilding team should be always on the look out for BUILDING opportunities because they don’t always wait for the draft weekend. Briere’s ineptness and excuses are starting to look eerily similar to that of Fletchers regime.
- landros 2

I agree on the general principle but the reality is that they just don't have the bullets for trade deadline deals. None of the players they might trade are good candidates for the deadline. Let's keep in mind that inactivity was not Fletchers issue. They signed Hayes, traded for Niskanen, Ristolainen, Ellis and Atkinson. Those were the results of a team escalating. Is that what we want, the Flyers to trade for the sake of trading? I don't. I want the right moves to be made, not moves made in haste or to appease a starved fanbase. My issue is that I have zero faith that this regime can and will make the right moves.

They should have been sellers last year and weren't. What makes you think they will change course this year?
- corduroy

I actually don’t think they’ll be aggressive.

I agree on the general principle but the reality is that they just don't have the bullets for trade deadline deals. None of the players they might trade are good candidates for the deadline. Let's keep in mind that inactivity was not Fletchers issue. They signed Hayes, traded for Niskanen, Ristolainen, Ellis and Atkinson. Those were the results of a team escalating. Is that what we want, the Flyers to trade for the sake of trading? I don't. I want the right moves to be made, not moves made in haste or to appease a starved fanbase. My issue is that I have zero faith that this regime can and will make the right moves.
- MJL

Part of the reason for that is that they keep extending everyone. It becomes a lot easier to defend not selling when they don't have anyone on expiring deals.

Many of Fletcher's deals went against the analytics (and probably the trading app we heard so much about). We never hear about the analytics dept anymore except when they want to remind everyone they have one and aren't in the stone age anymore.

https://x.com/JudasGray/s...-As-GM-in-Crazy-Interview

And then they go right back to hunting mammoths with spears....

[quote=MJL

Part of the reason for that is that they keep extending everyone. It becomes a lot easier to defend not selling when they don't have anyone on expiring deals.

Many of Fletcher's deals went against the analytics (and probably the trading app we heard so much about). We never hear about the analytics dept anymore except when they want to remind everyone they have one and aren't in the stone age anymore.

https://x.com/JudasGray/s...-As-GM-in-Crazy-Interview

And then they go right back to trusting their gut and using the eye test ...
- Flyers_01

Tortorella gets a report after every game. He says he doesn't know what it means and that is obvious with his coaching

I actually don’t think they’ll be aggressive.
- landros 2

Nor do I -- hence the same distaste for this leadership as the last, as The Who once said "Meet the new boss Same as the old boss"

Bottom line, Briere has got to trade at least one of his 1st orund picks and a roster player, like Farabee, for a good prospect ready to take the next step into the NHL. According to McKenzie, this draft has a big drop off after the top 8 and then another drop off after pick 15. Have 6 picks starting around 15 and then later is going to do nothing for the Flyers, other than help them accumulate more bottom pairing defenseman and bottom 6 forwards. If the Flyers calculated that this draft was going to be a good one, they were wrong and they now have to adjust quickly, because otherwise these 6 picks that we think are assets are really not worth much.

I agree on the general principle but the reality is that they just don't have the bullets for trade deadline deals. None of the players they might trade are good candidates for the deadline. Let's keep in mind that inactivity was not Fletchers issue. They signed Hayes, traded for Niskanen, Ristolainen, Ellis and Atkinson. Those were the results of a team escalating. Is that what we want, the Flyers to trade for the sake of trading? I don't. I want the right moves to be made, not moves made in haste or to appease a starved fanbase. My issue is that I have zero faith that this regime can and will make the right moves.
- MJL

The Flyers can trade Laughton and Risto at this deadline, there is really no doubt of that. The thing is they cannot wait until the last week of deadline to do so. We are already seeing teams making deals, and big ones at that. Briere has to strike before other deals are made and teams run out of assets and cap space.

I agree on the general principle but the reality is that they just don't have the bullets for trade deadline deals. None of the players they might trade are good candidates for the deadline. Let's keep in mind that inactivity was not Fletchers issue. They signed Hayes, traded for Niskanen, Ristolainen, Ellis and Atkinson. Those were the results of a team escalating. Is that what we want, the Flyers to trade for the sake of trading? I don't. I want the right moves to be made, not moves made in haste or to appease a starved fanbase. My issue is that I have zero faith that this regime can and will make the right moves.
- MJL

Fletcher never saw the Flyers as rebuilding or having the need to. He was aggressive which can be dangerous when you’re not very good at your job. As pointed out the Flyers are now making moves that are contrary to what a rebuild move is. I agree that to this point I have little faith in the new regime. It’s the lack of a coherent plan that scares a lot of the fan base. I fear we are 2 years into a five year failed regime and in store for 3 more years of BS.

Bottom line, Briere has got to trade at least one of his 1st orund picks and a roster player, like Farabee, for a good prospect ready to take the next step into the NHL. According to McKenzie, this draft has a big drop off after the top 8 and then another drop off after pick 15. Have 6 picks starting around 15 and then later is going to do nothing for the Flyers, other than help them accumulate more bottom pairing defenseman and bottom 6 forwards. If the Flyers calculated that this draft was going to be a good one, they were wrong and they now have to adjust quickly, because otherwise these 6 picks that we think are assets are really not worth much.
- jd250

Now after repeatedly using the existence of those picks to support that the Flyers are rebuilding. Now you claim that the assets are not worth much. LOL

Bottom line, Briere has got to trade at least one of his 1st orund picks and a roster player, like Farabee, for a good prospect ready to take the next step into the NHL. According to McKenzie, this draft has a big drop off after the top 8 and then another drop off after pick 15. Have 6 picks starting around 15 and then later is going to do nothing for the Flyers, other than help them accumulate more bottom pairing defenseman and bottom 6 forwards. If the Flyers calculated that this draft was going to be a good one, they were wrong and they now have to adjust quickly, because otherwise these 6 picks that we think are assets are really not worth much.
- jd250

It will probably take more, because as you admit, the picks aren't going to be worth that much.

Bottom line, Briere has got to trade at least one of his 1st orund picks and a roster player, like Farabee, for a good prospect ready to take the next step into the NHL. According to McKenzie, this draft has a big drop off after the top 8 and then another drop off after pick 15. Have 6 picks starting around 15 and then later is going to do nothing for the Flyers, other than help them accumulate more bottom pairing defenseman and bottom 6 forwards. If the Flyers calculated that this draft was going to be a good one, they were wrong and they now have to adjust quickly, because otherwise these 6 picks that we think are assets are really not worth much.
- jd250

I don’t want to even put a number on it. I just want a GM that shows some creativity and the semblance of a coherent plan.

I agree on the general principle but the reality is that they just don't have the bullets for trade deadline deals. None of the players they might trade are good candidates for the deadline. Let's keep in mind that inactivity was not Fletchers issue. They signed Hayes, traded for Niskanen, Ristolainen, Ellis and Atkinson. Those were the results of a team escalating. Is that what we want, the Flyers to trade for the sake of trading? I don't. I want the right moves to be made, not moves made in haste or to appease a starved fanbase. My issue is that I have zero faith that this regime can and will make the right moves.
- MJL

Don't buy that at all. That is a cop out.

Bottom line, Briere has got to trade at least one of his 1st orund picks and a roster player, like Farabee, for a good prospect ready to take the next step into the NHL. According to McKenzie, this draft has a big drop off after the top 8 and then another drop off after pick 15. Have 6 picks starting around 15 and then later is going to do nothing for the Flyers, other than help them accumulate more bottom pairing defenseman and bottom 6 forwards. If the Flyers calculated that this draft was going to be a good one, they were wrong and they now have to adjust quickly, because otherwise these 6 picks that we think are assets are really not worth much.
- jd250

The 2025 franchise altering draft the management pushed on everyone. They trumped it up as the savior.

The Flyers can trade Laughton and Risto at this deadline, there is really no doubt of that. The thing is they cannot wait until the last week of deadline to do so. We are already seeing teams making deals, and big ones at that. Briere has to strike before other deals are made and teams run out of assets and cap space.
- jd250

Do you honestly believe either one will be moved? If so why.

They have shown they are not very proactive.

The Flyers can trade Laughton and Risto at this deadline, there is really no doubt of that. The thing is they cannot wait until the last week of deadline to do so. We are already seeing teams making deals, and big ones at that. Briere has to strike before other deals are made and teams run out of assets and cap space.
- jd250

Anyone can be traded but neither will have the market that you think they do. Especially Ristolainen. Tagging space is an issue with both.