He was on for 2 minutes. Miss Tavares
- Drapz

Wouldn't expect that to absolve him of the 3 terrible plays in his first 30 seconds on the ice, but also im mostly just village idiot whispering here...

going to be a tough road trip out west next week
- dmnted

Will be at all 4 games. Best turn it around 👍

Will be at all 4 games. Best turn it around 👍
- joel878

You are going to all the games? That sounds like an awesome trip!

Still first in the division. We're missing JT, Knies, and clearly Woll is getting overworked. Not an ideal situation, but they'll bounce back.
- Whipper

Wolls not the problem. Team can't (frank)ing score goals.

Wolls not the problem. Team can't (frank)ing score goals.
- fifty__missions

Just like in the playoffs.

Just like in the playoffs.
- Rare_Jewel

And you're not winning in this league if you show up for 11 minutes.

No idea why Berube didn't blender the lines when it was clear the team was sleepwalking through this game. Mix it up ffs.

Wolls not the problem. Team can't (frank)ing score goals.
- fifty__missions

Impossible.

Not a good problem to have with over $34m invested in 3 forwards

Good teams dont have multiple 3 game losing streaks in a month.

But the leafs do.
It would be funny if the sens pass the leafs

Onto the next game.
- Fakepartofme

Sure they do. The Vegas Golden Knights lost 4 in a row, managed to win one game, then lost 3 in a row the year they won the cup. I don't think it was in the same month, but Florida had 2 4 game losing streaks and a 3 game losing streak last year. It happens.

It's a long season and injuries happen. Depending on how many and who they affect, the injuries can challenge your depth and all teams suffer from it. The Leafs have been periodically without many of McCabe, Tavares, Knies, Stolarz, Pacioretty and Kampf - just this month.

It's easy to get down on the team - especially when you see them outworked at times - but it's not like Minnesota was dominating them; the game winner was a PP goal scored against them on what I thought was a questionable penalty, but they controlled much of the play in the third.

To your point I don't feel that Matthews or Marner are showing their ability to be game breakers or uncontainable in tight checking games - and that's what we need to see for this team to take the next step in the playoffs. Colorado can rely on MacKinnon to do that and Edmonton can rely on McDavid to do that. We need to see Matthews be that guy in these types of games - especially if he wants to be considered in the same sentence as those two.

Impossible.

Not a good problem to have with over $34m invested in 3 forwards
- Fakepartofme

one of those guys scored last night.
only IF those two posts the Leafs hit went in ...

Sure they do. The Vegas Golden Knights lost 4 in a row, managed to win one game, then lost 3 in a row the year they won the cup. I don't think it was in the same month, but Florida had 2 4 game losing streaks and a 3 game losing streak last year. It happens.

It's a long season and injuries happen. Depending on how many and who they affect, the injuries can challenge your depth and all teams suffer from it. The Leafs have been periodically without many of McCabe, Tavares, Knies, Stolarz, Pacioretty and Kampf - just this month.

It's easy to get down on the team - especially when you see them outworked at times - but it's not like Minnesota was dominating them; the game winner was a PP goal scored against them on what I thought was a questionable penalty, but they controlled much of the play in the third.

To your point I don't feel that Matthews or Marner are showing their ability to be game breakers or uncontainable in tight checking games - and that's what we need to see for this team to take the next step in the playoffs. Colorado can rely on MacKinnon to do that and Edmonton can rely on McDavid to do that. We need to see Matthews be that guy in these types of games - especially if he wants to be considered in the same sentence as those two.
- Monkeypunk

Stop with your facts

Are the Leafs going to find a way to squander a weaker division and not finish 1st?

bold strategy.
Let see how it works out

this team need lots of help.

weak

Sure they do. The Vegas Golden Knights lost 4 in a row, managed to win one game, then lost 3 in a row the year they won the cup. I don't think it was in the same month, but Florida had 2 4 game losing streaks and a 3 game losing streak last year. It happens.

It's a long season and injuries happen. Depending on how many and who they affect, the injuries can challenge your depth and all teams suffer from it. The Leafs have been periodically without many of McCabe, Tavares, Knies, Stolarz, Pacioretty and Kampf - just this month.

It's easy to get down on the team - especially when you see them outworked at times - but it's not like Minnesota was dominating them; the game winner was a PP goal scored against them on what I thought was a questionable penalty, but they controlled much of the play in the third.

To your point I don't feel that Matthews or Marner are showing their ability to be game breakers or uncontainable in tight checking games - and that's what we need to see for this team to take the next step in the playoffs. Colorado can rely on MacKinnon to do that and Edmonton can rely on McDavid to do that. We need to see Matthews be that guy in these types of games - especially if he wants to be considered in the same sentence as those two.
- Monkeypunk

It was moreso sarcasm.
I hear that from the talking heads all the time.

But that vegas team was better and it wasnt in the same month.

Just saw that Shawn Simpson passed away. Sad

was on Ottawa sports radio. also know for the bench-clearing brawl between Canada and the Soviet Union in 1987

RIP

Are the Leafs going to find a way to squander a weaker division and not finish 1st?

bold strategy.
Let see how it works out

this team need lots of help.

weak
- senstroll

Maybe getting their most experienced star forward, their best power forward, and most experienced reliable goalie back might help?

Just saw that Shawn Simpson passed away. Sad

was on Ottawa sports radio. also know for the bench-clearing brawl between Canada and the Soviet Union in 1987

RIP
- senstroll

Too many pinot grigio's?

Never liked his hockey takes, but he seemed like a fun guy and missed him on the radio. =(

Maybe getting their most experienced star forward, their best power forward, and most experienced reliable goalie back might help?
- Dozzer

sure it would, but all teams have to overcome injuries.

Also I think Stolarz being a beast early on hid some of the issues.

Too many pinot grigio's?

Never liked his hockey takes, but he seemed like a fun guy and missed him on the radio. =(
- AdamFrench

not sure, some are speculating mental health issues got him.

but same, didnt agree with him most of the time, but he was entertaining and grew on you

not sure, some are speculating mental health issues got him.

but same, didnt agree with him most of the time, but he was entertaining and grew on you
- senstroll

56 is brutal.

sure it would, but all teams have to overcome injuries.

Also I think Stolarz being a beast early on hid some of the issues.
- senstroll

Overcoming injuries is one thing, overcoming a loss of 33% of your top 6 is quite another, can’t expect bottom six guys to take that on and be as effective.

As for the goalies they need their reliable veteran back. This is where young guys with little league experience (not even games) get rattled and play weaker, tightening up the D making them play weaker, hurting the breakouts making the already damaged forwards play weaker. Yes, steady goaltending matters that much.

Overcoming injuries is one thing, overcoming a loss of 33% of your top 6 is quite another, can’t expect bottom six guys to take that on and be as effective.

As for the goalies they need their reliable veteran back. This is where young guys with little league experience (not even games) get rattled and play weaker, tightening up the D making them play weaker, hurting the breakouts making the already damaged forwards play weaker. Yes, steady goaltending matters that much.
- Dozzer

There is one specific poster who will argue against this till they are blue in the face.
On the other hand, I agree with you.

one of those guys scored last night.
only IF those two posts the Leafs hit went in ...
- dmnted

I watched the game on PVR after my own hockey game and I thought they hit the iron 3 times - Willy, Matthews and Marner but your right if they score on 1 or 2 (or all 3) of those the game is much different.

Leafs looked flat to me for a lot of that game and the 1st goal would drive me nuts as a goalie - well it does drive me nuts because it happens to me. The rule is block it fully or GTFO of the way. What Matthews did was as much instinct as anything but you aren't blocking or knocking down a full NHL quality shot with the blade of your stick and he should have recognized that.

Oh well not the end of the world, on to the next game still in 1st place so hard to be too upset.

Sure they do. The Vegas Golden Knights lost 4 in a row, managed to win one game, then lost 3 in a row the year they won the cup. I don't think it was in the same month, but Florida had 2 4 game losing streaks and a 3 game losing streak last year. It happens.

It's a long season and injuries happen. Depending on how many and who they affect, the injuries can challenge your depth and all teams suffer from it. The Leafs have been periodically without many of McCabe, Tavares, Knies, Stolarz, Pacioretty and Kampf - just this month.

It's easy to get down on the team - especially when you see them outworked at times - but it's not like Minnesota was dominating them; the game winner was a PP goal scored against them on what I thought was a questionable penalty, but they controlled much of the play in the third.

To your point I don't feel that Matthews or Marner are showing their ability to be game breakers or uncontainable in tight checking games - and that's what we need to see for this team to take the next step in the playoffs. Colorado can rely on MacKinnon to do that and Edmonton can rely on McDavid to do that. We need to see Matthews be that guy in these types of games - especially if he wants to be considered in the same sentence as those two.
- Monkeypunk

Fake also says the playoffs are all that matters

Except when they lose in the regular season, then it matters

There is one specific poster who will argue against this till they are blue in the face.
On the other hand, I agree with you.
- dmnted

Yeah the 4C and the guy who’s been out since last spring is why the bottom 6 can’t score

sure it would, but all teams have to overcome injuries.

Also I think Stolarz being a beast early on hid some of the issues.
- senstroll

They have 80 more man games lost at this point last year, and have an identical record

They are fine relax

You can’t talk about adding at the TDL alike it makes a difference but gloss over the fact having 250 man games lost is going to hurt a team

There is one specific poster who will argue against this till they are blue in the face.
On the other hand, I agree with you.
- dmnted

I think we have all been told how easy the fix here is, let the top players continue to be paid at the top of the scale for the entire league while consistently not performing to the level needed for playoff success and get better bottom 6 players to fill that gap.

This is for sure the way the most successful teams and cup winners do it, and it's amazingly easy because those types of bottom 6 players are just sitting there waiting to be signed for league minimum with guaranteed results - it's not a gamble at all.

Like look at all the cups Corey Perry has led teams to - stupid Leafs for not signing him and drafting poorly since the dawn of time.

Trust him bro, he knows and anyone who disagrees is wrong.