https://www.espn.com/nhl/...izing-deal-golden-knights
Okay, that ship has sailed. Who's up next?
- Whipper

bradly
Donato
Cole

Back to hockey because (frank) political talk.

Saw a tweet that the Leafs should have about 28.5M in cap space for next year. Sounds great but they also have the following contracts up:

UFAs

Marner
JT
Patches
Lorentz
Hak
Murray

RFAs

Knies
Timmins
Holmberg
Robertson
Dewar

Knowing some of these are no brainer "See ya's" they will still be tight to re-up everyone they want, especially if some of these guys want huge bank.

Going to be interesting to see what happens here.
- Cush29

What do you think Knies next contract will be?
I am less worried about JT contract, they will find some common ground on this.
Marner contract is the biggest issue.

I heard Trump went into a restaurant and he ate all the food in the restaurant and they had to close the restaurant.

Your over reliance on this weak response is telling. Anyone you disagree with politically is deranged. I'm seeing a definite pattern here.
- GalacticStone

The pattern is not wasting time on people so deranged they can't be saved.

Saad officially a Vegas Golden Knight.

https://x.com/GoldenKnigh...tatus/1885413320142053727

Vegas sitting with about 500K in cap space **until someone goes on the LTIR**

The pattern is not wasting time on people so deranged they can't be saved.
- Rare_Jewel

Again, like many of your hockey takes, that is your opinion, not an objective fact. You sometimes seem to have trouble distinguishing the two.

Back to hockey because (frank) political talk.

Saw a tweet that the Leafs should have about 28.5M in cap space for next year. Sounds great but they also have the following contracts up/

Knowing some of these are no brainer "See ya's" they will still be tight to re-up everyone they want, especially if some of these guys want huge bank.

Going to be interesting to see what happens here.
- Cush29

UFAs

Marner - pay the man
JT - can come back at a reduced rate - I'm thinking $4M X 4. He'll get much better offers, and it's up to him (and his wife).
Patches - Not a penny over $1M.
Lorentz - there are 200 other guys who can provide what he provides.
Hak - ha ha ha, good one
Murray - see ya

RFAs

Knies - pay the man
Timmins - who cares?
Holmberg - who cares?
Robertson - fresh start elsewhere
Dewar - who cares?

What do you think Knies next contract will be?
I am less worried about JT contract, they will find some common ground on this.
Marner contract is the biggest issue.
- alex.TML

I'm really worried about what Marner's camp wants and if MLSE will cave and give it to him if it's insanely high. I have a hard time with what he makes today TBH but they can't pay him more than Matthews at least I hope not.

Knies is an RFA so not sure - I would like them to lock him up for 5 years at least but again not sure what he will want but they have arb if they are really far apart I guess?

Agree on JT but again hope MLSE says "if you want to stay you have to take less so we can build and bring in more of what is needed" AND hope JT says yes and does so.

UFAs

Marner - pay the man
JT - can come back at a reduced rate - I'm thinking $4M X 4. He'll get much better offers, and it's up to him (and his wife).
Patches - Not a penny over $1M.
Lorentz - there are 200 other guys who can provide what he provides.
Hak - ha ha ha, good one
Murray - see ya

RFAs

Knies - pay the man
Timmins - who cares?
Holmberg - who cares?
Robertson - fresh start elsewhere
Dewar - who cares?
- Atomic Wedgie

Seconded.

UFAs

Marner - pay the man
JT - can come back at a reduced rate - I'm thinking $4M X 4. He'll get much better offers, and it's up to him (and his wife).
Patches - Not a penny over $1M.
Lorentz - there are 200 other guys who can provide what he provides.
Hak - ha ha ha, good one
Murray - see ya

RFAs

Knies - pay the man
Timmins - who cares?
Holmberg - who cares?
Robertson - fresh start elsewhere
Dewar - who cares?
- Atomic Wedgie

FYI I was just listing them all, I was not saying any were 'must re-sign' players or not.

"Pay the man" means what though? i.e. Marner and Knies? What is your ceiling on how much? I mean what if Marner wants half or more of that cap space? Do you give him 14M or more?

What do you think Knies next contract will be?
I am less worried about JT contract, they will find some common ground on this.
Marner contract is the biggest issue.
- alex.TML

6yrs @ 6.5M per

Saad officially a Vegas Golden Knight.

https://x.com/GoldenKnigh...tatus/1885413320142053727

Vegas sitting with about 500K in cap space **until someone goes on the LTIR**


- Cush29

Stone to the LTIR .....

.. in 1, 2, 3,

I'm really worried about what Marner's camp wants and if MLSE will cave and give it to him if it's insanely high. I have a hard time with what he makes today TBH but they can't pay him more than Matthews at least I hope not.

Knies is an RFA so not sure - I would like them to lock him up for 5 years at least but again not sure what he will want but they have arb if they are really far apart I guess?

Agree on JT but again hope MLSE says "if you want to stay you have to take less so we can build and bring in more of what is needed" AND hope JT says yes and does so.
- Cush29

Also I would like Robertson to stay with Leafs. He needs more time to develop, but he has the jump and good offensive upside. All he needs is time, not sure if the Leafs have the time to wait though.
Marner camp will put a huge pressure on MLSE and I am afraid they will cave as usually.

Again, like many of your hockey takes, that is your opinion, not an objective fact. You sometimes seem to have trouble distinguishing the two.
- GalacticStone

No, the objective facts are what these TDS boys can't comprehend which is why they have TDS much like yourself.

Stone to the LTIR .....

.. in 1, 2, 3,
- dmnted

Very realistic scenario.

6yrs @ 6.5M per
- dmnted

We are going to see the emoji a lot the next year as people adjust to the new numbers with the cap percentages.

6yrs @ 6.5M per
- dmnted

I hope for 5 x 5.0, but your numbers could be more accurate.

I'm really worried about what Marner's camp wants and if MLSE will cave and give it to him if it's insanely high. I have a hard time with what he makes today TBH but they can't pay him more than Matthews at least I hope not.

Knies is an RFA so not sure - I would like them to lock him up for 5 years at least but again not sure what he will want but they have arb if they are really far apart I guess?

Agree on JT but again hope MLSE says "if you want to stay you have to take less so we can build and bring in more of what is needed" AND hope JT says yes and does so.
- Cush29

If I was Marner, I'd take a 3 or 4 year deal @ 12.5M and re-up again @16M for another 3 years and so on.

If I was Marner, I'd take a 3 or 4 year deal @ 12.5M and re-up again @16M for another 3 years and so on.
- dmnted

It is always risk to get injured during these first 3 years.
He will try to cash it now and as much as possible.

It is always risk to get injured during these first 3 years.
He will try to cash it now and as much as possible.
- alex.TML

there is that possibility but it give the team some flexibility in signing better depth players.
otherwise it's a 13M for 8 years with full NMC or see yeah!

Interesting that the cap floor in 27-28 is going to be what the cap ceiling is now.

After years of pinching pennies, this is nuts.

Marner and his agent are rock hard.

No, the objective facts are what these TDS boys can't comprehend which is why they have TDS much like yourself.
- Rare_Jewel

If you insist. Sure.

there is that possibility but it give the team some flexibility in signing better depth players.
otherwise it's a 13M for 8 years with full NMC or see yeah!
- dmnted

It would be nice of course. But I have not seen our best players giving poop about team's cap space yet. Hopefully I am wrong.

Back to hockey because (frank) political talk.

Saw a tweet that the Leafs should have about 28.5M in cap space for next year. Sounds great but they also have the following contracts up:

UFAs

Marner
JT
Patches
Lorentz
Hak
Murray

RFAs

Knies
Timmins
Holmberg
Robertson
Dewar

Knowing some of these are no brainer "See ya's" they will still be tight to re-up everyone they want, especially if some of these guys want huge bank.

Going to be interesting to see what happens here.
- Cush29

My nerdy spreadsheet shows they'll have 64M committed to 7F, 6D and both goalies. Without moving any of those they need to add 5F and 2-3 depth pieces.

Marner, JT and Knies are probably 3 of the F. Lorentz could be back. Some kids could get in the mix (Cowan, Minten, Grebenkin). Could see them wanting to add that 3C too.

I think it's shaping up pretty good. Re-sign the big 3, backfill a couple of cheap depth guys and/or graft in a kid or two, and have about 4-5M to spend on a legit 3C.