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NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Today @ 11:40 AM ET
Just curious, why do you keep calling him that? Its' very childish and stupid.

I haven't seen him Pout in ages, The Kid actually draws more penalties than most players in the league, never see him pout or rarely look to the refs for a call. You should grow up a little - your shtick is getting old.

The fact that none of you think this kid is gonna rebound within the next 7 years is baffling.

- Brooks_Light


Especially as one guy just pouted himself off the team
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Today @ 11:40 AM ET
Just curious, why do you keep calling him that? Its' very childish and stupid.

I haven't seen him Pout in ages, The Kid actually draws more penalties than most players in the league, never see him pout or rarely look to the refs for a call. You should grow up a little - your shtick is getting old.

The fact that none of you think this kid is gonna rebound within the next 7 years is baffling.

- Brooks_Light

It's wild hey? He's extremely stoic and composed virtually all the time and yet he gets called pouty? Reminds me a lot of how people talked about the Sedins.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Today @ 11:40 AM ET
Imagine this thread was like that...instead its the same posters repeating the same sh&t over and over, everyday. Negative, pessimistic, cancer filled rhetoric.

Misery loves company.

- Brooks_Light

Looks like you were wrong about Miller never getting traded.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson USA
Joined: 07.01.2007

Today @ 11:42 AM ET
Kicking horse coffee is widely available. It was bought by Lazazza a couple years ago but still operates independently out of Invermere BC. I have many friends in Chicago that get it there. So it shouldn’t be hard to find. I get it by the case for about $9 cad per bag.
- TurdFergeson

I'll check here at Krogers or Safeway grocery stores. LavAzza is good coffee too, we sold it at our restaurant, it's expensive though, I think my wife said the new owners shitcanned it because it was too expensive for them.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Today @ 11:43 AM ET
You know, I just looked and last night was only the fourth time in Chytil's career that he had 20 or more minutes of ice-time. He's actually barely been given 19 minutes in his career. Maybe he's just ready for it as he's been stuck behind better centers his entire career in New York.

Him and EP40 were close in ice-time last night, Chytil had 24 shifts 20:03 in ice-time, Petey had 23 shifts 18:59 in ice-time, which would indicate Chytil's shifts are longer.

- Pacificgem

I love that Chytil likes to carry the puck in himself as opposed to dumping and chasing. We know Petey would do a lot more of that if the coaches would let him. That quote in the blog from Dayal is bang on imo, if we watch Tocchet beat that out of him, we know where the problem lies.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Today @ 11:48 AM ET
Looks like you were wrong about Miller never getting traded.
- Marwood


Darn
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Today @ 11:52 AM ET
Been a petey supporter until about a month ago. That's 1 year of poop hockey and the fact that the coach and the management is working with him on his preparation habits is all too telling. Can't win with guys like that. Get rid of him
- Jkuzzi

I've been saying that since day 1.
Good complementary player, but not a player you build a team around. For the money and contract length, get out now before that no trade kicks in.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson USA
Joined: 07.01.2007

Today @ 11:53 AM ET
Thank you
- Reubenkincade

This has been completely debunked, he hasn't played poorly for a year, it was only toward the end of last season he started to struggle. As widely reported, knee and wrist injuries caught up to him.

January 1, 2024 to end of the season he had 46 points in 46 games, +12 while averaging 19:31 in ice. Which is fine at a point per game.

February he had 11 points in 13 games, -4 while averaging 18:53 in ice. Again, fine.

March he had 9 points in 12 games, +6 while averaging 20:03 in ice. Again perfectly fine.

April he had 5 points in 8 games, +2 while averaging 19:23 in ice. He was struggling at even strength for goal scoring here and it carried into the playoffs.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Today @ 11:54 AM ET
You know, I just looked and last night was only the fourth time in Chytil's career that he had 20 or more minutes of ice-time. He's actually barely been given 19 minutes in his career. Maybe he's just ready for it as he's been stuck behind better centers his entire career in New York.

Him and EP40 were close in ice-time last night, Chytil had 24 shifts 20:03 in ice-time, Petey had 23 shifts 18:59 in ice-time, which would indicate Chytil's shifts are longer.

- Pacificgem

Injuries and roster depth kept him held back for sure in NYR. He has size and talent, and after seeing him score that goal last night, hopefully fire and drive as well.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Today @ 11:54 AM ET
I love that Chytil likes to carry the puck in himself as opposed to dumping and chasing. We know Petey would do a lot more of that if the coaches would let him. That quote in the blog from Dayal is bang on imo, if we watch Tocchet beat that out of him, we know where the problem lies.
- NorthNuck


It'll be interesting how it plays out. Apparently Tocc has lamented the dump and chase before, but his teams usually do that more? Maybe fixing the D now lets the forwards not have to come back in support as much and can play with more pace. Who knows. Should be a better last stretch of the season either way
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Today @ 11:55 AM ET
Darn
- Brooks_Light

carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Today @ 11:55 AM ET
He's also already smashing sticks as a Ranger
- NorthNuck

Good for him. FIRE it UP!
Jkuzzi
Joined: 12.14.2016

Today @ 11:55 AM ET
This has been completely debunked, he hasn't played poorly for a year, it was only toward the end of last season he started to struggle. As widely reported, knee and wrist injuries caught up to him.

January 1, 2024 to end of the season he had 46 points in 46 games, +12 while averaging 19:31 in ice. Which is fine at a point per game.

February he had 11 points in 13 games, -4 while averaging 18:53 in ice. Again, fine.

March he had 9 points in 12 games, +6 while averaging 20:03 in ice. Again perfectly fine.

April he had 5 points in 8 games, +2 while averaging 19:23 in ice. He was struggling at even strength for goal scoring here and it carried into the playoffs.

- Pacificgem


Points aren't everything. He legit just appears to not want to play and he's lazy and seemingly arrogant as well. If he's so good and it's been proven wrong I'm sure we will get a ton for him
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson USA
Joined: 07.01.2007

Today @ 11:56 AM ET
I love that Chytil likes to carry the puck in himself as opposed to dumping and chasing. We know Petey would do a lot more of that if the coaches would let him. That quote in the blog from Dayal is bang on imo, if we watch Tocchet beat that out of him, we know where the problem lies.
- NorthNuck

Yes, both him and O'Connor lead the team in possession, they carry the puck, almost like offense hasn't been beaten out of them with the dump and chase. Petey, Boeser and DeBrusk need to control the puck more and not be afraid to turn it over. Rag that (frank)ing thing!!
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Today @ 11:56 AM ET
Injuries and roster depth kept him held back for sure in NYR. He has size and talent, and after seeing him score that goal last night, hopefully fire and drive as well.
- carsonagenic


From Jan Levine's blog:

I am a huge Chytil fan as you all know. He was the team’s most creative and complete center. His line with Kaapo Kakko and Alexis Lafreniere was by the far the squad’s best trio in the 2022 run to the ECF. The main issue with Chytil was health. Concerns over another passable concussion dominated everything. Any absence, head related or not, created massive handwringing over whether his career would be over. His absence this year was viewed to not be concussion related, though that did not diminish the anxiety created by it. That is the only reason why he was included in the trade.

In full disclosure, I hated NY giving up Chytil. [...] If Chytil stays healthy, he will explode with the additional ice time as the 2C in Vancouver.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Today @ 11:57 AM ET
It'll be interesting how it plays out. Apparently Tocc has lamented the dump and chase before, but his teams usually do that more? Maybe fixing the D now lets the forwards not have to come back in support as much and can play with more pace. Who knows. Should be a better last stretch of the season either way
- NewYorkNuck

I'm curious to see if Chytil sticks with Garland/Joshua. He was very complimentary of them after the game, it'd be cool to see some chemistry develop there
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Today @ 11:58 AM ET
Yes, both him and O'Connor lead the team in possession, they carry the puck, almost like offense hasn't been beaten out of them with the dump and chase. Petey, Boeser and DeBrusk need to control the puck more and not be afraid to turn it over. Rag that (frank)ing thing!!
- Pacificgem

They all play better and look more confident when they do it. Maybe a more trustworthy D corps allows them to do it with less fear
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson USA
Joined: 07.01.2007

Today @ 11:59 AM ET
Points aren't everything. He legit just appears to not want to play and he's lazy and seemingly arrogant as well. If he's so good and it's been proven wrong I'm sure we will get a ton for him
- Jkuzzi

He's absolutely not lazy, you don't average the most ice-time being lazy in the NHL. He lead all forwards last season on the Canucks with 19:39 in ice-time. JT Miller was second.

Is he a weird kid, yeah, apparently he is. I don't care if he's traded, but he doesn't deserve the hate he gets.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Today @ 12:00 PM ET
Points aren't everything. He legit just appears to not want to play and he's lazy and seemingly arrogant as well. If he's so good and it's been proven wrong I'm sure we will get a ton for him
- Jkuzzi

Calling him lazy makes me think you just don't watch Canucks games. The guy backchecks as hard as anyone and jumps in front of shots on defense more regularly than any almost any other forward on the team.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Today @ 12:00 PM ET
It's wild hey? He's extremely stoic and composed virtually all the time and yet he gets called pouty? Reminds me a lot of how people talked about the Sedins.
- NorthNuck

I loved the Sedins, and supported them especially in their early career, when lots of people were riding them into the ground. Only thing about them, and it wasn't their fault is, the team didn't move on and trade them when the slide was happening. Could have added picks and prospects that were desperately needed for the rebuild / retool, but didn't....
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Today @ 12:01 PM ET
Imagine this thread was like that...instead its the same posters repeating the same sh&t over and over, everyday. Negative, pessimistic, cancer filled rhetoric.

Misery loves company.

- Brooks_Light

Almost 55 years of not winning a Cup may lead to this.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Today @ 12:03 PM ET
I loved the Sedins, and supported them especially in their early career, when lots of people were riding them into the ground. Only thing about them, and it wasn't their fault is, the team didn't move on and trade them when the slide was happening. Could have added picks and prospects that were desperately needed for the rebuild / retool, but didn't....
- carsonagenic

Yeah, the team set themselves back about 5 years not moving them. Similar to what Pit is doing with Crosby and Malkin right now. Tough to ship out franchise legends, but looking at it from a purely business standpoint clearly it would have been better to trade them.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Today @ 12:11 PM ET
I love that Chytil likes to carry the puck in himself as opposed to dumping and chasing. We know Petey would do a lot more of that if the coaches would let him. That quote in the blog from Dayal is bang on imo, if we watch Tocchet beat that out of him, we know where the problem lies.
- NorthNuck

All coaches are like that in todays game. Defensive structure rules the game as it should. It is the highly skilled players like McK and McD that can blow through those systems, both their teams and the other teams, and succeed. You can't win playing pond / 1980's Oilers style anymore. I'm not advocating killing all creativity, but you can't just blame a coach for stifling players and making them play within a system.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Today @ 12:11 PM ET
Yeah, the team set themselves back about 5 years not moving them. Similar to what Pit is doing with Crosby and Malkin right now. Tough to ship out franchise legends, but looking at it from a purely business standpoint clearly it would have been better to trade them.
- NorthNuck


It would have been better if they did a quick retool after that first first-round loss and still had the Sedins for one last run. Shoulda coulda woulda
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson USA
Joined: 07.01.2007

Today @ 12:14 PM ET
Almost 55 years of not winning a Cup may lead to this.
- carsonagenic

It's been that way since the Bure years, he wanted to get out of Vancouver because there's too much noise surrounding himself and the team, so they drove him to the airport and said see ya later.

If the organization was smart they'd quiet the noise and just try to win instead of shipping everyone good out of town. The fans attacked Bure, they attacked the Sedins, they attacked Naslund, now they're attacking Petey. Some of that is on the players, no doubt, but Canucks fans are the worst for pressuring management to get rid of great players.

#ZeroCups
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