Our biggest hole is center, and do you know how the injury is gonna affect him in the future, yes the kid looks good.
- SlNlSTER

and 1D is another huge hole. But hey, last year they reached for a C while completely passing on a potential 1D. Makes perfect sense when you draft for need and not BPA.

and 1D is another huge hole. But hey, last year they reached for a C while completely passing on a potential 1D. Makes perfect sense when you draft for need and not BPA.
- Flyfly

It's more important to fill 1D than 1C.

A dude like Schaefer, who is often compared to a modern day Scott Niedermeyer, will be on the ice for literally half the game, jump starting every possession and being the primary stopper defensively.

Hagens isn't gonna come close to that kind of impact... lot of folks are predicting he'll be more of a 2C in the NHL.

and 1D is another huge hole. But hey, last year they reached for a C while completely passing on a potential 1D. Makes perfect sense when you draft for need and not BPA.
- Flyfly

Oh I agree I would have drafted the d last year, but in fairness they probably didn't want to deal with that agent.

If he was a number 1 d then why he drop so far in a weaker draft, there must be a reason. I'm thinking teams are getting tired of that agent way of doing business, I definitely could be wrong but thats my guess

It's more important to fill 1D than 1C.

A dude like Schaefer, who is often compared to a modern day Scott Niedermeyer, will be on the ice for literally half the game, jump starting every possession and being the primary stopper defensively.

Hagens isn't gonna come close to that kind of impact... lot of folks are predicting he'll be more of a 2C in the NHL.
- Tomahawk

Who knows you both probably are right, I'm just hesitant with a kid coming off surgery

It's more important to fill 1D than 1C.

A dude like Schaefer, who is often compared to a modern day Scott Niedermeyer, will be on the ice for literally half the game, jump starting every possession and being the primary stopper defensively.

Hagens isn't gonna come close to that kind of impact... lot of folks are predicting he'll be more of a 2C in the NHL.
- Tomahawk

Could not agree more. To me, if you have the chance to get Schaefer, you don't even think about it. Make the pick and address the C position w the other picks. It's simple really, but you know, the Triumvirate will need a 200 foot center that plays "flyers hockey."

After years of futility the Flyers still do not have a #1 center, #1 D, or a #1 goalie.
- furio16

You are wrong

The Room Jr™ is going to be like McDavid

Hunter McDonald is the American version of Nick Lindstrom

Yegor Zavragin is going to be better than Dryden, Roy, and Broduer

Oh I agree I would have drafted the d last year, but in fairness they probably didn't want to deal with that agent.

If he was a number 1 d then why he drop so far in a weaker draft, there must be a reason. I'm thinking teams are getting tired of that agent way of doing business, I definitely could be wrong but thats my guess
- SlNlSTER

Let me ask you something, the D that were picked before Buium, were any of them outlandish picks?

As far teams getting tired of the that agent. What other teams would you be referring too?

Oh I agree I would have drafted the d last year, but in fairness they probably didn't want to deal with that agent.

If he was a number 1 d then why he drop so far in a weaker draft, there must be a reason. I'm thinking teams are getting tired of that agent way of doing business, I definitely could be wrong but thats my guess
- SlNlSTER

That is pure stupidity -- and that shows that the issue with Cutter was the FO fault and not the kids

Could not agree more. To me, if you have the chance to get Schaefer, you don't even think about it. Make the pick and address the C position w the other picks. It's simple really, but you know, the Triumvirate will need a 200 foot center that plays "flyers hockey."
- Flyfly

For all the faults of the current regime, I don't get the sense they won't draft a Dman early. At the last draft, Briere looked like someone stole his dog after SJ selected D!ckinson. They were rumored to value Yakemchuk. Certainly, fair to question why Buium was not held as high as regard as the other 2 Dmen. I tend to believe they will take Schaefer if they win the lottery. Not exactly like the current regime has been huge risk takers so far. So bypassing the consensus best prospect in the draft, who has all the measureables and production does not seem like a move they would make. Just my thoughts.

Oh I agree I would have drafted the d last year, but in fairness they probably didn't want to deal with that agent.

If he was a number 1 d then why he drop so far in a weaker draft, there must be a reason. I'm thinking teams are getting tired of that agent way of doing business, I definitely could be wrong but thats my guess
- SlNlSTER

Then that is dumb, petty, and not good business.

I agree that agent played a big part in them not picking Buium.

They are third worst in the NHL in goals allowed...so why wouldn't you trade him if you can get a good return? Because the Flyers are going to make a run at a cup in the next two years? Get a clue.

Who knows you both probably are right, I'm just hesitant with a kid coming off surgery
- SlNlSTER

It's a collar bone, tho, from driving the net. Not a Nolan Patrick kind of thing.

Oh I agree I would have drafted the d last year, but in fairness they probably didn't want to deal with that agent.

If he was a number 1 d then why he drop so far in a weaker draft, there must be a reason. I'm thinking teams are getting tired of that agent way of doing business, I definitely could be wrong but thats my guess
- SlNlSTER

I guess the Phillies should've stiffed any Boras client after the JD Drew fiasco. Ditto the Eagles and Drew Rosenhaus after TO.

If the Flyers have an ongoing spat with Kurt Overhardt and his agency, then they themselves are idiots. He is going to be around a long time and representing more and more drafted players.

I guess the Phillies should've stiffed any Boras client after the JD Drew fiasco. Ditto the Eagles and Drew Rosenhaus after TO.

If the Flyers have an ongoing spat with Kurt Overhardt and his agency, then they themselves are idiots. He is going to be around a long time and representing more and more drafted players.
- TobyFlenderson

The tiumvirate likes to say the org is the gold standard on the NHL They are correct -- they are the gold standard of stupidity

For all the faults of the current regime, I don't get the sense they won't draft a Dman early. At the last draft, Briere looked like someone stole his dog after SJ selected D!ckinson. They were rumored to value Yakemchuk. Certainly, fair to question why Buium was not held as high as regard as the other 2 Dmen. I tend to believe they will take Schaefer if they win the lottery. Not exactly like the current regime has been huge risk takers so far. So bypassing the consensus best prospect in the draft, who has all the measureables and production does not seem like a move they would make. Just my thoughts.
- Trox88

Well said and I agree

I guess the Phillies should've stiffed any Boras client after the JD Drew fiasco. Ditto the Eagles and Drew Rosenhaus after TO.

If the Flyers have an ongoing spat with Kurt Overhardt and his agency, then they themselves are idiots. He is going to be around a long time and representing more and more drafted players.
- TobyFlenderson

I guess the Phillies should've stiffed any Boras client after the JD Drew fiasco. Ditto the Eagles and Drew Rosenhaus after TO.

If the Flyers have an ongoing spat with Kurt Overhardt and his agency, then they themselves are idiots. He is going to be around a long time and representing more and more drafted players.
- TobyFlenderson

Maybe it’s not so much of a spat as it is a fear of drafting another college player who is repped by him.

For all the faults of the current regime, I don't get the sense they won't draft a Dman early. At the last draft, Briere looked like someone stole his dog after SJ selected D!ckinson. They were rumored to value Yakemchuk. Certainly, fair to question why Buium was not held as high as regard as the other 2 Dmen. I tend to believe they will take Schaefer if they win the lottery. Not exactly like the current regime has been huge risk takers so far. So bypassing the consensus best prospect in the draft, who has all the measureables and production does not seem like a move they would make. Just my thoughts.
- Trox88

Bonk 6'2" - physical defenseman
Richardensen 6'3" - aggressive skilled physical defenseman
Yak 6'3 - heavy hitter skilled physical defenseman
Buium 6'0 - ridiculously skilled and complete defenseman but not someone who is as physical as the other players.

Smaller and not that physical presence that the Flyers covet above all else. Plus the FO was drooling over The Room 2.0.

They’ve both scored a goal, Frost is kicking it in the faceoff circle as well. Flames are lucky to get them. How’s Pelts and Kuzmenko playing?
- K-man25

Still haven't played. Trump, work Visa issues.

Bonk 6'2" - physical defenseman
Richardensen 6'3" - aggressive skilled physical defenseman
Yak 6'3 - heavy hitter skilled physical defenseman
Buium 6'0 - ridiculously skilled and complete defenseman but not someone who is as physical as the other players.

Smaller and not that physical presence that the Flyers covet above all else. Plus the FO was drooling over The Room 2.0.
- Flyers_01

My sources tell me that the org asked Buium to spell intangibles and he couldn't that put the fork in the flyers selecting him

Maybe it’s not so much of a spat as it is a fear of drafting another college player who is repped by him.
- Dkos

Why though? You run the risk of getting stiffed by any college player you draft, regardless of who their agent is. Should they avoid drafting Hagens if he is being advised by KO?

Ok, but a counter to this is when players were asked who they would most like to play for, Torts came in 7th ahead of Cassidy and Laviolette.
- jd250

at a whopping 3.77%

at a whopping 3.77%

- MBFlyerfan

Top tier coach players love the guy!

at a whopping 3.77%

- MBFlyerfan

They must have asked Seeler, Laughton, and Poehlig

They must have asked Seeler, Laughton, and Poehlig
- furio16

Word on the street is The Room™ is going to ask opposing players their thoughts on torts and if the reply is not he's great he is going to jabbed them in the nuts with his stick