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So what will Soucy net in a trade? 5th? |
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I don't think anyone in the Canucks organization is ignoring it. They're working with him to try and get better results, it's just going to be a process. - Pacificgem
Why does a 26 year old who's been in the league for 5 seasons need to be 'worked with' to get better results? Results of a trade, I hope. |
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You know what would help him? A bunch of anonymous people and media writers pouring onto him, insulting him, and casting him out of Vancouver. That will show him! - NewYorkNuck
People love running someone down instead of lifting him out and helping him. |
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Your Allvin is the worst GM in Canucks history rhetoric has sure subsided in recent days….hmmmm? ![;)](https://hbcf.s3.amazonaws.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif) - Pacificgem
He is the worst GM. He made huge mistakes and even though he is trying to back peddle and fix them, they still happened. The team is still the butt end of all jokes, and you still have an 11.6 mil player 3 rd line center playing like a 3 mil center.
If they don't move EP40 they are going to be handcuffed for years. |
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Pacificgem
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He is the worst GM. He made huge mistakes and even though he is trying to back peddle and fix them, they still happened. The team is still the butt end of all jokes, and you still have an 11.6 mil player 3 rd line center playing like a 3 mil center.
If they don't move EP40 they are going to be handcuffed for years. - VANTEL
His winning percentage as GM is amongst the highest in Canucks history. |
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So what will Soucy net in a trade? 5th? - VanHockeyGuy
Keep him for back up. Weak draft.
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His winning percentage as GM is amongst the highest in Canucks history. ![:lol:](https://hbcf.s3.amazonaws.com/images/emoticons/lol.gif) - Pacificgem
Tells you a lot about the history of this team.
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If this continues that Miller trade is going to look like a huge win for the Canucks, not vs the Rangers, just purely from a Canuck perspective. Not only has Chytil been fantastic, O'Connor has as well. Not to mention the 1st they flipped for Marcus Pettersson, completely different team thus far. - Pacificgem
Yeah I don't want to get too ahead but the defense seems way better. Myers being so trusted is still dangerous to me though. Probably a product of Hughes being out but he can't even flip a puck out with plenty of time without icing it ... and then of course his one touch pass right to Mackinnon could have changed the whole game. Good on Demmer, some bubble demko saves. I know Brock was snakebitten but he looks better than I thought since Miller's departure too.
Chytil looks good but got rocked a few times, 3 times in one shift. Bounced back up so hopefully alleviates some of the concussion concern. But yikes he needs to pick his head up a little sooner.
Full disclosure only caught the third yesterday, but from highlights it looked like it could have been a different game not for some huge saves by Demko and some posts. So again I don't want to get too ahead, but a step in the right direction holding on to a third period lead. Nice patience by Drew at the end there too, many would have panic iced that instead he delayed and iced it in another way |
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Sid said MP was a good leader and very vocal, maybe he can help EP40 get over this. |
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Pacificgem
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![:thumbsup:](https://hbcf.s3.amazonaws.com/images/emoticons/thumbsup.gif) - VanHockeyGuy
You just have to look back to see how fluid the NHL is in terms of player movement. Mike Peca turned into Alex Mogilny, who turned into Brendan Morrison.
Linden turned into Bertuzzi, McCabe and Ruutu, McCabe in part turned into the Sedin pick, Bure turned in Jovo. Bertuzzi turned into Luongo.
It’s just the cycle of the NHL, fans are so easy to flip out when they trade a good player like Miller and they’re too easy to flip out over a gut who’s struggling like Petey.
The circle of NHL life. |
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Pacificgem
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Tells you a lot about the history of this team. - VANTEL
It’s been a small window but any GM with a winning percentage over .600 is very good, regardless of team. |
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You just have to look back to see how fluid the NHL is in terms of player movement. Mike Peca turned into Alex Mogilny, who turned into Brendan Morrison.
Linden turned into Bertuzzi, McCabe and Ruutu, McCabe in part turned into the Sedin pick, Bure turned in Jovo. Bertuzzi turned into Luongo.
It’s just the cycle of the NHL, fans are so easy to flip out when they trade a good player like Miller and they’re to easy to flip out over a gut who’s struggling like Petey.
The circle of NHL life. - Pacificgem
It was different when there was no cap. A lot more trading in those days. I see what you're saying but poor example. |
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It was different when there was no cap. A lot more trading in those days. I see what you're saying but poor example. - Marwood
Sure, but the point still stands, players come and go regardless of era. The amount of freakout over moving Miller, who was a fantastic player but a selfish cancer pr ick, was astronomical amongst the fans. Now….crickets?
Allvin has proven to move on quickly from missteps, I suspect he’ll make a good decision on Petey one way or the other. |
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It’s been a small window but any GM with a winning percentage over .600 is very good, regardless of team. - Pacificgem
Has He been here a full two years? I can't remember how far into the year it was when Benning was fired. Anyways it is close to two full seasons over a three year span. He had a very good second year. You know who else had a very good second season and made the playoffs? Benning.
Again Canucks have sucked for 56 years, so it is very easy to break any record set by the team.
Canucks had the Tochett bump the first year and a very good second year. The third year they had a kick to the nuts, |
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Sure, but the point still stands, players come and go regardless of era. The amount of freakout over moving Miller, who was a fantastic player but a selfish cancer prick, was astronomical amongst the fans. Now….crickets?
Allvin has proven to move on quickly from missteps, I suspect he’ll make a good decision on Petey one way or the other. - Pacificgem
All two days?
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Sure, but the point still stands, players come and go regardless of era. The amount of freakout over moving Miller, who was a fantastic player but a selfish cancer prick, was astronomical amongst the fans. Now….crickets?
Allvin has proven to move on quickly from missteps, I suspect he’ll make a good decision on Petey one way or the other. - Pacificgem
Agreed. They know what they're doing better than any of us. |
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Sure, but the point still stands, players come and go regardless of era. The amount of freakout over moving Miller, who was a fantastic player but a selfish cancer prick, was astronomical amongst the fans. Now….crickets?
Allvin has proven to move on quickly from missteps, I suspect he’ll make a good decision on Petey one way or the other. - Pacificgem
It would have to be by July 1st.
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Pacificgem
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Sid said MP was a good leader and very vocal, maybe he can help EP40 get over this. - Bettmanhatesus
One can only hope. Avs are a good club, EP40 did some good things last night. He took 20 faceoff, almost double any other center, and won 50% of them. Positive.
He boxed out the Avs dman directly in front of the net on DeBrusk’s goal, positive. He wasn’t a defensive liability, positive. Forced Makar to haul him down and take a penalty by moving his feet around the Avs net, positive.
Now he just needs to keep,working and getting his confidence back and hopefully the points will come. |
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Pacificgem
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All two days? - VANTEL
It was a month leading up to moving him and how ridiculous it would be, not just after the trade. The amount of crying was off the charts. |
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One can only hope. Avs are a good club, EP40 did some good things last night. He took 20 faceoff, almost double any other center, and won 50% of them. Positive.
He boxed out the Avs dman directly in front of the net on DeBrusk’s goal, positive. He wasn’t a defensive liability, positive. Forced Makar to haul him down and take a penalty by moving his feet around the Avs net, positive.
Now he just needs to keep,working and getting his confidence back and hopefully the points will come. - Pacificgem
You pretty well described what Blueger does.
In the three games without Miller Petey has one assist and five shots,
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Pacificgem
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It would have to be by July 1st. - VanHockeyGuy
Yes…either way I hope it works out. |
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Why does a 26 year old who's been in the league for 5 seasons need to be 'worked with' to get better results? Results of a trade, I hope. - Marwood
I don’t think Pouty’s issues have anything to do with Miller. He’s clearly not recovered from injury. And it’s up to him to get back to where he was or not. |
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Sure, but the point still stands, players come and go regardless of era. The amount of freakout over moving Miller, who was a fantastic player but a selfish cancer prick, was astronomical amongst the fans. Now….crickets?
Allvin has proven to move on quickly from missteps, I suspect he’ll make a good decision on Petey one way or the other. - Pacificgem
Hence my comment "I see what you're saying", and I agree Allvin has been quick to fix mistakes but he let this recent one fester for far too long.
Let's hope he does the right thing with Pouty. |
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You pretty well described what Blueger does.
In the three games without Miller Petey has one assist and five shots, - VANTEL
I have the ability to disassociate his salary from his on ice performance given what he and the rooms been through. I don’t expect immediate offensive results and having played hockey at a high level I know it’s a process to get back to where he was.
Im pointing out things to build on for him, he’s doing good things, he just needs to keep doing those things and the offensive side of things will hopefully come. If they don’t, trade him. Im good either way, I’m not emotionally attached to any of the players. I do think he was a great player though and I hope he finds his way back there. |
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Tells you a lot about the history of this team. - VANTEL
Tells you just as much about the history of our GM's. |
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