I have the ability to disassociate his salary from his on ice performance given what he and the rooms been through. I don’t expect immediate offensive results and having played hockey at a high level I know it’s a process to get back to where he was.
Im pointing out things to build on for him, he’s doing good things, he just needs to keep doing those things and the offensive side of things will hopefully come. If they don’t, trade him. Im good either way, I’m not emotionally attached to any of the players. I do think he was a great player though and I hope he finds his way back there. - Pacificgem
Hey my first comment of the day was he had a solid night for a 4 mil player.
I don't agree with the disconnect salary for performance. That could hurt a team real quick. You can't pay third liners 11 mil
Hey my first comment of the day was he had a solid night for a 4 mil player.
I don't agree with the disconnect salary for performance. That could hurt a team real quick. You can't pay third liners 11 mil - VANTEL
But again, you’re ignoring the noise around himself and the team and saying he has to just play through it because he’s highly paid. They’re all highly paid, Miller was being paid 8 million and he was playing the poop. Boeser is highly paid and he’s playing like poop. The arguments are all on Petey because he’s played 50 games on his new contract and he hasn’t delivered, which he hasn’t, but the reasons are right out there for everyone to see, yet they still ignore them.
If there weren’t any issues surrounding the team, sure, blast the kid, he’d deserve it. But there are HUGE issues affecting the whole team.
Hence my comment "I see what you're saying", and I agree Allvin has been quick to fix mistakes but he let this recent one fester for far too long.
Let's hope he does the right thing with Pouty. - Marwood
I am a little embarrassed to say I am watching Don and Dhali. They were just talking about this.
Dhali's quote was sort of bang on IMO. He said "Yes, they are quick to fix their mistakes, but stop making the mistakes. He said just over a year and you are trading Miller. four months in you are looking to move EP40. He said they are going to get hurt down the road if UFA and RFA keep getting moved right after they sign".
But again, you’re ignoring the noise around himself and the team and saying he has to just play through it because he’s highly paid. They’re all highly paid, Miller was being paid 8 million and he was playing the poop. Boeser is highly paid and he’s playing like poop. The arguments are all on Petey because he’s played 50 games on his new contract and he hasn’t delivered, which he hasn’t, but the reasons are right out there for everyone to see, yet they still ignore them.
If there weren’t any issues surrounding the team, sure, blast the kid, he’d deserve it. But there are HUGE issues affecting the whole team. - Pacificgem
No, I was against signing Petey even before they gave him that stupid contract. I was on board the Trade Petey train long before his contract.
Boeser's two centers he has played with production has gone to the sh1tter this year. I am indifferent with Boeser, Sign him for 6 mil? Sure why not. Sign him for 7 mil? No.
I am a little embarrassed to say I am watching Don and Dhali. They were just talking about this.
Dhali's quote was sort of bang on IMO. He said "Yes, they are quick to fix their mistakes, but stop making the mistakes. He said just over a year and you are trading Miller. four months in you are looking to move EP40. He said they are going to get hurt down the road if UFA and RFA keep getting moved right after they sign". - VANTEL
Dhali is part of the reason this all happened. Miller is 1.5 into his deal and 2 years since signing it, EP is .5 in and nearly 1 year since signing it. The #1 reason any trade happened is because of the Media beating a dead horse regarding the Ep/Miller rift.
If they STFU it probably wouldn't have gotten as bad as it did. As Burke said (summarizing, don't feel like finding exact quote) "Every good team has people who don't like each other, then they go on the ice and play hockey."
Anyways, we were never going to win a Miller trade, but fans will be up and down about it. When he is playing great hockey in NY we will say how dumb we were to trade him. And when he plays like a selfish a$$hat with zero interest in the game, we will be glad he's gone.
Hard to argue about those guys. After Burke they’ve sorta turned into a teaching ground for inexperienced GM'S. - Load Management
Burke did some nice, and not so nice, things but he's completely over-rated. His record with the Canucks was 219-181-68-24 (wikipedia) and he won one playoff round as GM for Vancouver. Not great numbers or success. But I like his abrasive personality.
Dhali is part of the reason this all happened. Miller is 1.5 into his deal and 2 years since signing it, EP is .5 in and nearly 1 year since signing it. The #1 reason any trade happened is because of the Media beating a dead horse regarding the Ep/Miller rift.
If they STFU it probably wouldn't have gotten as bad as it did. As Burke said (summarizing, don't feel like finding exact quote) "Every good team has people who don't like each other, then they go on the ice and play hockey."
Anyways, we were never going to win a Miller trade, but fans will be up and down about it. When he is playing great hockey in NY we will say how dumb we were to trade him. And when he plays like a selfish a$$hat with zero interest in the game, we will be glad he's gone. - Retinalz
Last year the media was very kind to the Canucks because they were winning. I pointed out that the body language between Miller and Petey was glaring. Our favorite poster who lives with his daddy made a mockery of it and went on a 26 page rant.
So I don't buy this nonsense of the media being the problem and start of all this. If Canucks play well the media will praise them, if they stink they will roast them.
Why the hell do you sign two players that really dislike each other to long term contracts?
Burke did some nice, and not so nice, things but he's completely over-rated. His record with the Canucks was 219-181-68-24 (wikipedia) and he won one playoff round as GM for Vancouver. Not great numbers or success. But I like his abrasive personality. - Pacificgem
And this is the whole point. Canucks history is so bad it is easy to be one of the best.
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Burke did some nice, and not so nice, things but he's completely over-rated. His record with the Canucks was 219-181-68-24 (wikipedia) and he won one playoff round as GM for Vancouver. Not great numbers or success. But I like his abrasive personality. - Pacificgem
Burke was overrated especially in ANA where he basically inherited and entire club that Brian Murray built.
Pretty accurate here Quinn was our best GM and Keenan the worst.
And this is the whole point. Canucks history is so bad it is easy to be one of the best. - VANTEL
Just perception, yes they've never won the Cup but they're in the middle of the pack for success in terms of wins and losses. They've neither been great or horrible since 1970. I'll look up the numbers and show you.
Just perception, yes they've never won the Cup but they're in the middle of the pack for success in terms of wins and losses. They've neither been great or horrible since 1970. I'll look up the numbers and show you. - Pacificgem
The first 25 years they were downright awful. The next 25 pulled them to middle class.
Allvin's record in three years as the Canucks GM is 133-89-28-7 with one playoff series win. Very similar numbers to Burke, but Burke is perceived to be so star-spangled awesome because he drafted the Sedins. He didn't win a damn thing in Vancouver. One playoff series win.
The first 25 years they were downright awful. The next 25 pulled them to middle class.
This is to make your day. - VANTEL
Most expansion teams are awful, Flyers being the exception, until recently when Vegas came in and they changed the rules so they could be more competitive.
They went to the Cup finals in their, what, 14th year? And then again ten years later. And then again in 2011. Like I said, in terms of wins and losses for teams that've been around as long as they have, they aren't at the bottom and they aren't at the top. Just a false perception they've been horrible, they haven't. But yes, they've never won a Cup.
Most expansion teams are awful, Flyers being the exception, until recently when Vegas came in and they changed the rules so they could be more competitive.
They went to the Cup finals in their, what, 14th year? And then again ten years later. And then again in 2011. Like I said, in terms of wins and losses for teams that've been around as long as they have, they aren't at the bottom and they aren't at the top. Just a false perception they've been horrible, they haven't. But yes, they've never won a Cup. - Pacificgem
But again, you’re ignoring the noise around himself and the team and saying he has to just play through it because he’s highly paid. They’re all highly paid, Miller was being paid 8 million and he was playing the poop. Boeser is highly paid and he’s playing like poop. The arguments are all on Petey because he’s played 50 games on his new contract and he hasn’t delivered, which he hasn’t, but the reasons are right out there for everyone to see, yet they still ignore them.
If there weren’t any issues surrounding the team, sure, blast the kid, he’d deserve it. But there are HUGE issues affecting the whole team. - Pacificgem
And this is the whole point. Canucks history is so bad it is easy to be one of the best. - VANTEL
75 they had a good year, they played the mighty Habs first round and won a game and played well, I remember suitcase smith skating the puck to center ice 😆
