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TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Today @ 12:08 PM ET
the one where the food goes in or the one where the food goes out?
- TheMussel


Are you calling poop food??
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Imma Luigi, #1!, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Today @ 12:09 PM ET
I thinks its going to be 12.5 x 5.
12 x4 works as well.

- Fakepartofme


Caps going to 115M in 3 years.

I think they’ll give him similar to what Matthews got, even though he deserves more.

But it’s looking more and more likely that it won’t be 8 years.

With the cap going to what it is, Willys contract looks fine. Mitch gets 13.75M x 4 or 5.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Today @ 12:18 PM ET
Are you calling poop food??
- TurdFergeson

processed food
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Today @ 12:19 PM ET
So.... which is it?

Or are you also a bot looking for more data?

- Scabeh

I don’t think there’s a better place to harvest the very best data.
GalacticStone
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We shoulda let Uncle Billy finish the job.
Joined: 01.29.2013

Today @ 12:21 PM ET
Caps going to 115M in 3 years.

I think they’ll give him similar to what Matthews got, even though he deserves more.

But it’s looking more and more likely that it won’t be 8 years.

With the cap going to what it is, Willys contract looks fine. Mitch gets 13.75M x 4 or 5.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


Just think, in another year or two, the Lightning's Cup winning squad will be cap compliant.
Turnitaround
Joined: 07.03.2011

Today @ 12:34 PM ET
My opinion is, and I feel certain that, Marners cap hit will remain below AM’s whether it’s a long or short term deal

If he does exceed AM’s cap hit, it won’t be by much ($13.75 tops) and only if it’s a 7-8year deal. This would allow the leafs to make AM the highest paid Leafs again in 3 years.

With the rising cap one can make a reasonable argument that there is 1-2 teams out there that would be willing to give MM a $105M (7x $15 aav) contract. But I don’t think those are teams in great markets or with a competitive roster. Assuming that the Leafs are offering $100M (12.5 x 8years), would MM rather play elsewhere for the extra $5M received over 7 years? Everyone knows nobody does front loaded bonus laden contacts better than MLSE
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Today @ 1:05 PM ET


Saint Nylander

- GalacticStone

I was wondering what to get AA for his Bday.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Today @ 1:08 PM ET
My opinion is, and I feel certain that, Marners cap hit will remain below AM’s whether it’s a long or short term deal

If he does exceed AM’s cap hit, it won’t be by much ($13.75 tops) and only if it’s a 7-8year deal. This would allow the leafs to make AM the highest paid Leafs again in 3 years.

With the rising cap one can make a reasonable argument that there is 1-2 teams out there that would be willing to give MM a $105M (7x $15 aav) contract. But I don’t think those are teams in great markets or with a competitive roster. Assuming that the Leafs are offering $100M (12.5 x 8years), would MM rather play elsewhere for the extra $5M received over 7 years? Everyone knows nobody does front loaded bonus laden contacts better than MLSE

- Turnitaround

This seems reasonable.
GalacticStone
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We shoulda let Uncle Billy finish the job.
Joined: 01.29.2013

Today @ 1:16 PM ET
If you sort NHL all-time player stats by shooting percentage, the results are not what you think.

Only include players who played a minimum of 100 games to screen out the flukes.

The top-5 are all names you wouldn't expect.


senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Today @ 1:21 PM ET
If you sort NHL all-time player stats by shooting percentage, the results are not what you think.

Only include players who played a minimum of 100 games to screen out the flukes.

The top-5 are all names you wouldn't expect.



- GalacticStone


i would expect mostly players from the 80s

also Brantt Myhres took 27 shots on goal in 154 games or 1 shot every 5.5 games
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Today @ 1:25 PM ET
Mario shot 19% his career, 1 season he shot 27%

wild
GalacticStone
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We shoulda let Uncle Billy finish the job.
Joined: 01.29.2013

Today @ 1:35 PM ET
i would expect mostly players from the 80s

also Brantt Myhres took 27 shots on goal in 154 games or 1 shot every 5.5 games

- senstroll

Craig Simpson is nuts though.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Today @ 1:41 PM ET
Caps going to 115M in 3 years.

I think they’ll give him similar to what Matthews got, even though he deserves more.

But it’s looking more and more likely that it won’t be 8 years.

With the cap going to what it is, Willys contract looks fine. Mitch gets 13.75M x 4 or 5.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


We obviously won’t know for years but I highly doubt their projections come true. Back before the pandemic even they’d come out with “projections” then the cap would rise by less than projected. Ratings on tv are down. Economy is down. Canadian dollar is down. Season tickets are down. Corporate spending is down. You can usually buy discounted seats for any game . Sports betting is already declining. I guess we’ll see where it all goes but I doubt their projections come projections come true.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Imma Luigi, #1!, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Today @ 1:45 PM ET
I was wondering what to get AA for his Bday.
- Fakepartofme

I would (frank)’n rock poop around PL so fk’n hard.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Today @ 1:45 PM ET
Craig Simpson is nuts though.
- GalacticStone


in 1989 he shot 36% over 56 games score 43 goals...what in the world
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Today @ 1:48 PM ET
We obviously won’t know for years but I highly doubt their projections come true. Back before the pandemic even they’d come out with “projections” then the cap would rise by less than projected. Ratings on tv are down. Economy is down. Canadian dollar is down. Season tickets are down. Corporate spending is down. You can usually buy discounted seats for any game . Sports betting is already declining. I guess we’ll see where it all goes but I doubt their projections come projections come true.
- TurdFergeson

This is from NHL.com on Jan 31st 2025
But I do agree, a lot can change between now and the next 3 years.

"The NHL and the NHL Players' Association announced on Friday an agreement that will provide increased predictability on core NHL Salary Cap economics for a minimum of the next three years (through 2027-28).

The agreement sets the following annual increases to the Upper Limit, subject to the Collective Bargaining Agreement being in effect beyond the 2025-26 season: $7.5 million in 2025-26; $8.5 million in the 2026-27 season and $9.5 million in the 2027-28 season.

The NHL and NHLPA also announced that team payroll ranges for the next three seasons would be an Upper Limit of $95.5 million and a Lower Limit of $70.6 million next season; an Upper Limit of $104 million and a Lower Limit of $76.9 million in 2026-27 and an Upper Limit of $113.5 million in 2027-28 with a Lower Limit of $83.9 million.

The projected Team Payroll Ranges for the 2026-27 and 2027-28 seasons will be subject to potential minor adjustments (up or down).

In December, NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman said the salary cap for the 2025-26 season was projected to be $92.4 million, a $4 million jump from this season's cap of $88 million. But speaking at the NHL Board of Governors meeting in Florida, Bettman said then that there was a potential of the cap going even higher pending a possible negotiation between the NHL and NHLPA.
"
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Imma Luigi, #1!, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Today @ 1:50 PM ET
We obviously won’t know for years but I highly doubt their projections come true. Back before the pandemic even they’d come out with “projections” then the cap would rise by less than projected. Ratings on tv are down. Economy is down. Canadian dollar is down. Season tickets are down. Corporate spending is down. You can usually buy discounted seats for any game . Sports betting is already declining. I guess we’ll see where it all goes but I doubt their projections come projections come true.
- TurdFergeson

There are smarter people than you or I coming up with these projections.

I’ve heard the real projection is $117M in 3 years. Poverty franchises like the Jets or Sabres hate this because they don’t want to pay the cap floor, but good for teams like the Leafs.

TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Today @ 1:51 PM ET
This is from NHL.com on Jan 31st 2025
But I do agree, a lot can change between now and the next 3 years.

"The NHL and the NHL Players' Association announced on Friday an agreement that will provide increased predictability on core NHL Salary Cap economics for a minimum of the next three years (through 2027-28).

The agreement sets the following annual increases to the Upper Limit, subject to the Collective Bargaining Agreement being in effect beyond the 2025-26 season: $7.5 million in 2025-26; $8.5 million in the 2026-27 season and $9.5 million in the 2027-28 season.

The NHL and NHLPA also announced that team payroll ranges for the next three seasons would be an Upper Limit of $95.5 million and a Lower Limit of $70.6 million next season; an Upper Limit of $104 million and a Lower Limit of $76.9 million in 2026-27 and an Upper Limit of $113.5 million in 2027-28 with a Lower Limit of $83.9 million.

The projected Team Payroll Ranges for the 2026-27 and 2027-28 seasons will be subject to potential minor adjustments (up or down).

In December, NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman said the salary cap for the 2025-26 season was projected to be $92.4 million, a $4 million jump from this season's cap of $88 million. But speaking at the NHL Board of Governors meeting in Florida, Bettman said then that there was a potential of the cap going even higher pending a possible negotiation between the NHL and NHLPA.
"

- Fakepartofme


I’ve seen all of this many times. Notice the word “ projected” in here many times.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Today @ 2:00 PM ET
In queso emergency
Pray to cheesuz
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Today @ 2:08 PM ET
This seems reasonable.
- Fakepartofme


I don't think you'll get him for 12.5
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Today @ 2:21 PM ET
Mario shot 19% his career, 1 season he shot 27%

wild

- senstroll


The absolute best.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Today @ 2:27 PM ET
I don't think you'll get him for 12.5
- Aetherial


marner is a 14 min now. wont be under that.

its annoying, draisaitl starts at 14 next season, and he is worth a good chunk more than mm.

Florida gets tkchuk for 9.5, Barkov 10
etc etc etc

Leafs pay more always
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Imma Luigi, #1!, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Today @ 2:31 PM ET
marner is a 14 min now. wont be under that.

its annoying, draisaitl starts at 14 next season, and he is worth a good chunk more than mm.

Florida gets tkchuk for 9.5, Barkov 10
etc etc etc

Leafs pay more always

- senstroll

FWIW, look at Draisaitl’s 5v5 stats..

Are they really any better than Mitch’s? Drai is also more injury prone. He also has the world’s best playmaker on his team.

I’m not saying Mitch is better, but they’re of similar value.

Career PPG: Drai 1.2, Mitch 1.13.

Mitch is also 2 years younger, and kills penalties.

Mitch on pace for 109 pts.
Drai on pace for 123 pts.

He plays with McDavid, I mean…
HockeyBuzzed
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Nashville
Joined: 09.10.2021

Today @ 2:31 PM ET
in 1989 he shot 36% over 56 games score 43 goals...what in the world
- senstroll


Simpson either banged in rebounds from net front or went to the slot and was fed pucks. Nothing but grade A scoring chances. Still amazing. He was a sniper. His body took a beating from crosschecks in front of the net. Wore a flak jacket in his later years.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Today @ 2:40 PM ET
FWIW, look at Draisaitl’s 5v5 stats..

Are they really any better than Mitch’s? Drai is also more injury prone. He also has the world’s best playmaker on his team.

I’m not saying Mitch is better, but they’re of similar value.

Career PPG: Drai 1.2, Mitch 1.13.

Mitch is also 2 years younger, and kills penalties.

Mitch on pace for 109 pts.
Drai on pace for 123 pts.

He plays with McDavid, I mean…

- Arctic_AARDVARK


yes Draisaitl 5v5 looks much better
18g-25a to 7-27

even if you count first assists, 17-16 for LD

he is a much better player, and shouldn't be similar value

your MM goggles blind you every time..cant see clear out of them
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