Saw this - not sure how accurate it actually is but for me that's too much per year if it's 7.

Per David Pagnotta the Toronto Maple Leafs and John Tavares have made significant progress on a contract extension that Is expected to come to fruition.
The deal still needs some “fine tuning” before becoming official but it is believed it will be a 3 year extension as agreed by both team and player around $7 million AAV (or at least in that ballpark)

Jarvis in for konecky tonight

Saw this - not sure how accurate it actually is but for me that's too much per year if it's 7.

Per David Pagnotta the Toronto Maple Leafs and John Tavares have made significant progress on a contract extension that Is expected to come to fruition.
The deal still needs some “fine tuning” before becoming official but it is believed it will be a 3 year extension as agreed by both team and player around $7 million AAV (or at least in that ballpark)
- Cush29

AAV seems a little high for me still. Was hoping the 5-6 range.

Saw this - not sure how accurate it actually is but for me that's too much per year if it's 7.

Per David Pagnotta the Toronto Maple Leafs and John Tavares have made significant progress on a contract extension that Is expected to come to fruition.
The deal still needs some “fine tuning” before becoming official but it is believed it will be a 3 year extension as agreed by both team and player around $7 million AAV (or at least in that ballpark)
- Cush29

Finally! Something non-politics we can all argue about.

With a rising cap, I could live with 3x7m.

Saw this - not sure how accurate it actually is but for me that's too much per year if it's 7.

Per David Pagnotta the Toronto Maple Leafs and John Tavares have made significant progress on a contract extension that Is expected to come to fruition.
The deal still needs some “fine tuning” before becoming official but it is believed it will be a 3 year extension as agreed by both team and player around $7 million AAV (or at least in that ballpark)
- Cush29

That's 4 AAV higher per year than some in here said he would sign for.

That's 4 AAV higher per year than some in here said he would sign for.
- Rare_Jewel

In fairness, Dreger was on the panel earlier in the year and said JT would have to take "far less than 5" to stay with the Leafs.

He doesn't have medical clearance - still injured.
- Atomic Wedgie

I think the Canucks didn’t want him to fly out and then back just to sit so they denied him a medical clearance.

Finally! Something non-politics we can all argue about.

With a rising cap, I could live with 3x7m.
- GalacticStone

No kidding! Sign the man.

That's 4 AAV higher per year than some in here said he would sign for.
- Rare_Jewel

😂

In fairness, Dreger was on the panel earlier in the year and said JT would have to take "far less than 5" to stay with the Leafs.

- Whipper

I guess that makes Dreger the CNN of sports media.

Without any trades….

Knies Matthews Marner
McMann Tavares Nylander
Pacioretty Domi Jarnkrok
Lorentz Kampf Dewar
———————————-
Robertson Holmboy Reaves


Now go trade Domi ++ for Jenner
Tanev too

Guys, Tyson Barrie is expected to go on waivers today. Reunion?

Guys, Tyson Barrie is expected to go on waivers today. Reunion?
- Whipper

Fuuuuuuuck no.

I'd bring back Cory Cross first.

Guys, Tyson Barrie is expected to go on waivers today. Reunion?
- Whipper

Well we did miss out on the Klinberg sweeps

Saw this - not sure how accurate it actually is but for me that's too much per year if it's 7.

Per David Pagnotta the Toronto Maple Leafs and John Tavares have made significant progress on a contract extension that Is expected to come to fruition.
The deal still needs some “fine tuning” before becoming official but it is believed it will be a 3 year extension as agreed by both team and player around $7 million AAV (or at least in that ballpark)
- Cush29

I find that we have trouble adjusting our cap thinking with the increasing cap - so we get used to thinking of a number as high when perhaps it's becoming the norm - and so on. Like I think due to the flat cap for 3 years and incremental change we have a normalized concept of the cap sitting around $82m in our head. We know it's more but when judging numbers it floats back to that basic familiar structure.

Like for instance Tavares' $11m contract would be worth $13.2m in next year's cap money, but $7m - if it had been signed in 2018, would have been $5.8m . . . which is roughly where a lot of Leaf fans feel he belongs ($5 - $6m). Some are closer to $4m and so on, but I think 5-6 is still in the range.

If I were doing a 3 year span, I'd have probably considered something like 6, 5, 4 - or even scaled a little less, but still it sets that mid point at around a considered $5m of the "normalized" cap. That equals 6.1% of the cap. If I average the next 3 years at 6.1%, it works out to $5.56m - so $7m would be high . . but in 2028 $7m will be the new $5m, so it's not abysmal.

I bumped into Colton Orr few years ago in Eaton Center and this dude is giant.
- alex.TML

i was in tampon bay for a game during the first human eraser stint👍

i happened to be staying at the same hotel as our loafs and i ran into schenn and pencil neck gunnarssen in the elevator👍🏿

i asked them, “hey fellas, are you going to the game tonight?”👍

schenn replied, “we’re PLAYING IN the game”🤦🏿‍♂️

follow me on facebuzz for more fascinating, non provocative anecdotes 👍

what a (frank)ing joke 🤦🏿‍♂️

edit: nice alliteration 👍

In 2002 we played the Islanders in the quarter-finals and I both worked and lived downtown - my route either way took me basically beside the ACC. I had joked that if I saw Yashin I was going to knee cap him.

Well I did see Yashin - walking with Isbister and Kvasha.

Holy Jesus those guys were massive. I had no idea Yashin was that big - and he was the small one. Needless to say no one got knee capped that day.
- Monkeypunk

A few years ago, the whole famn damily went to Pittsburgh to see the Leafs play.

We happened to stay at the same hotel the Baltimore Ravens were staying.

I got into an elevator with a few of them - I've never felt smaller in my entire life.

A few years ago, the whole famn damily went to Pittsburgh to see the Leafs play.

We happened to stay at the same hotel the Baltimore Ravens were staying.

I got into an elevator with a few of them - I've never felt smaller in my entire life.
- Atomic Wedgie

Now this I can understand. That is some big boys.

I find that we have trouble adjusting our cap thinking with the increasing cap - so we get used to thinking of a number as high when perhaps it's becoming the norm - and so on. Like I think due to the flat cap for 3 years and incremental change we have a normalized concept of the cap sitting around $82m in our head. We know it's more but when judging numbers it floats back to that basic familiar structure.

Like for instance Tavares' $11m contract would be worth $13.2m in next year's cap money, but $7m - if it had been signed in 2018, would have been $5.8m . . . which is roughly where a lot of Leaf fans feel he belongs ($5 - $6m). Some are closer to $4m and so on, but I think 5-6 is still in the range.

If I were doing a 3 year span, I'd have probably considered something like 6, 5, 4 - or even scaled a little less, but still it sets that mid point at around a considered $5m of the "normalized" cap. That equals 6.1% of the cap. If I average the next 3 years at 6.1%, it works out to $5.56m - so $7m would be high . . but in 2028 $7m will be the new $5m, so it's not abysmal.
- Monkeypunk

I guess the optimist in me says that it's $1M less than Stamkos.

And then the pessimist in me says "look how far Stamkos has fallen, so quickly. He's not worth $4M. Signing guys that old always comes with a risk."

AAV seems a little high for me still. Was hoping the 5-6 range.
- bryant

I was / am hoping for same AAV.

I find that we have trouble adjusting our cap thinking with the increasing cap - so we get used to thinking of a number as high when perhaps it's becoming the norm - and so on. Like I think due to the flat cap for 3 years and incremental change we have a normalized concept of the cap sitting around $82m in our head. We know it's more but when judging numbers it floats back to that basic familiar structure.

Like for instance Tavares' $11m contract would be worth $13.2m in next year's cap money, but $7m - if it had been signed in 2018, would have been $5.8m . . . which is roughly where a lot of Leaf fans feel he belongs ($5 - $6m). Some are closer to $4m and so on, but I think 5-6 is still in the range.

If I were doing a 3 year span, I'd have probably considered something like 6, 5, 4 - or even scaled a little less, but still it sets that mid point at around a considered $5m of the "normalized" cap. That equals 6.1% of the cap. If I average the next 3 years at 6.1%, it works out to $5.56m - so $7m would be high . . but in 2028 $7m will be the new $5m, so it's not abysmal.
- Monkeypunk

Fair points but you need to also layer in the 'give us a (big/medium) hometown discount because you have been here for 8 years and not delivered a cup and been paid 11M per year' factor. lol

Could he be our blueline Wendel?

https://x.com/_nickrichar...&t=U9ywPXeJUnEiTFt0iY1YBw
- Arctic_AARDVARK

That is the type of politics that we can all get behind.

That is the type of politics that we can all get behind.
- The Law

I think we could all get behind Trudeau, you know...

i was in tampon bay for a game during the first human eraser stint👍

i happened to be staying at the same hotel as our loafs and i ran into schenn and pencil neck gunnarssen in the elevator👍🏿

i asked them, “hey fellas, are you going to the game tonight?”👍

schenn replied, “we’re PLAYING IN the game”🤦🏿‍♂️

follow me on facebuzz for more fascinating, non provocative anecdotes 👍

what a (frank)ing joke 🤦🏿‍♂️

edit: nice alliteration 👍
- Skalapy

I find that we have trouble adjusting our cap thinking with the increasing cap - so we get used to thinking of a number as high when perhaps it's becoming the norm - and so on. Like I think due to the flat cap for 3 years and incremental change we have a normalized concept of the cap sitting around $82m in our head. We know it's more but when judging numbers it floats back to that basic familiar structure.

Like for instance Tavares' $11m contract would be worth $13.2m in next year's cap money, but $7m - if it had been signed in 2018, would have been $5.8m . . . which is roughly where a lot of Leaf fans feel he belongs ($5 - $6m). Some are closer to $4m and so on, but I think 5-6 is still in the range.

If I were doing a 3 year span, I'd have probably considered something like 6, 5, 4 - or even scaled a little less, but still it sets that mid point at around a considered $5m of the "normalized" cap. That equals 6.1% of the cap. If I average the next 3 years at 6.1%, it works out to $5.56m - so $7m would be high . . but in 2028 $7m will be the new $5m, so it's not abysmal.
- Monkeypunk

You make very valid points, as usual.

But if Tavares is truly that obsessed with having to play in Toronto, the Leafs need a better discount than that. Just look at what happened with Stamkos. Goal scoring dries up at first slowly, then quickly.

The Leafs still stand to spend 70%+ on forwards next year (assuming Marner re-signs for 14 AAV and Tavares signs for 7 AAV). Knies is also ready for an extension as well and wouldn't surprise me if he wants 7 AAV too. They need that number down closer to 60-65%.

The cap is indeed going up but that also means your future UFAs will be more expensive. And the Leafs still need to make additions to improve the team during it's window of opportunity. As well as cap space for trades.

I'd like to see how much $ Chicago is willing to retain on Seth Jones. He's not elite but I think he's better than he's been in Chicago. The Leafs could use a big body, RHD with a strong point shot. That's the type of player I'd rather spend 7-9 AAV on than Tavares unless Tavares continues to reduce his price. Perhaps then can promise him a front office position to make up the lost $ in the future if he's that steadfast on never leaving Toronto ever again.