Would y'all take a chance on Rantanen for Petterson? What if you got to negotiate with his agent ahead of time?

Would y'all take a chance on Rantanen for Petterson? What if you got to negotiate with his agent ahead of time?
- BINGO!

Yes

This is a business. The goal of the business is to win a cup and build the value of the brand/ company. A successful business has no time for your fanboyism.

I don’t care who drafted him and where a players is from. He is a commodity like all players
- CanuckDon

Oh I don't disagree with that at all, but you aren't winning the Cup without having some forward thinking within your organization. It takes years and years of trial & error, patience, more good decisions than bad, and luck. Caps won the Cup 14 years after they drafted Ovechkin, Wings won the Cup 14 years after they drafted Yzerman.

Trading Pettersson seems like a very short-sighted, reactionary, impatient, poor decision, given the context that's gone into his demise this year. He finished 18th in NHL scoring last year and he was very mediocre in March, April & into the playoffs, the impatience being shown by the fanbase, and perhaps management, is laughable.

Again, it's the same mistakes they've been making over and over again as a franchise. This team was a tire-fire this year, the defense was horrible, management let the dressing room turn into a festering mess, their depth is poor, their speed is poor, their size is a weakness, none of this has anything to do with Pettersson. But trading Petey will fix everything...ok.

Would y'all take a chance on Rantanen for Petterson? What if you got to negotiate with his agent ahead of time?
- BINGO!

Oh I don't disagree with that at all, but you aren't winning the Cup without having some forward thinking within your organization. It takes years and years of trial & error, patience, more good decisions than bad, and luck. Caps won the Cup 14 years after they drafted Ovechkin, Wings won the Cup 14 years after they drafted Yzerman.

Trading Pettersson seems like a very short-sighted, reactionary, impatient, poor decision, given the context that's gone into his demise this year. He finished 18th in NHL scoring last year and he was very mediocre in March, April & into the playoffs, the impatience being shown by the fanbase, and perhaps management, is laughable.

Again, it's the same mistakes they've been making over and over again as a franchise. This team was a tire-fire this year, the defense was horrible, management let the dressing room turn into a festering mess, their depth is poor, their speed is poor, their size is a weakness, none of this has anything to do with Pettersson. But trading Petey will fix everything...ok.
- Pacificgem

The highest paid player has no fault! The American saturated fats have gone to your head. Completely delusional

The highest paid player has no fault! The American saturated fats have gone to your head. Completely delusional
- CanuckDon

Have you not read anything I wrote? I know you're a bit of a meathead, but come on, of course he's to share in the blame. But, the entire fortunes of the franchise aren't singularly on his head.

Being impatience when you're in no position to win anyways, is short-sighted. If the team was ready to win the Cup and trading him could make all the difference, sure trade him. At this point trading him just sets you back as you're surely not going to win any trade involving him right now.

Trading him will only expose other areas of weakness and then the fans will be onto something else to complain about. Caroline traded their leading scorer, idiots, for a pending UFA, they've lost 5 of 8 games since that trade, meanwhile, Colorado went on a heater. The Canucks organization is not flush with centers. Trading him is stupid. But not unexpected.

Oh I don't disagree with that at all, but you aren't winning the Cup without having some forward thinking within your organization. It takes years and years of trial & error, patience, more good decisions than bad, and luck. Caps won the Cup 14 years after they drafted Ovechkin, Wings won the Cup 14 years after they drafted Yzerman.

Trading Pettersson seems like a very short-sighted, reactionary, impatient, poor decision, given the context that's gone into his demise this year. He finished 18th in NHL scoring last year and he was very mediocre in March, April & into the playoffs, the impatience being shown by the fanbase, and perhaps management, is laughable.

Again, it's the same mistakes they've been making over and over again as a franchise. This team was a tire-fire this year, the defense was horrible, management let the dressing room turn into a festering mess, their depth is poor, their speed is poor, their size is a weakness, none of this has anything to do with Pettersson. But trading Petey will fix everything...ok.
- Pacificgem

I don't disagree with you, to an extent, but those 2 examples, Washington and Detroit, kept drafting to add on to those players, Canucks continue to give out high draft choices, because they got false hope from the play-in thingy and last seasons anomaly.
This team has nothing in the cupboards, but we keep hearing from this management that signing euro, college and Chl free agents is the way to fill in prospect pool.
Fire the bunch

I don't disagree with you, to an extent, but those 2 examples, Washington and Detroit, kept drafting to add on to those players, Canucks continue to give out high draft choices, because they got false hope from the play-in thingy and last seasons anomaly.
This team has nothing in the cupboards, but we keep hearing from this management that signing euro, college and Chl free agents is the way to fill in prospect pool.
Fire the bunch
- Reubenkincade

Just some extreme examples of the time it takes to win, it requires patience. Of course a lot has to fall into place to win, but when you have two top six centers in your entire organization, trading one of them in a moment of weakness just doesn't come off as a good idea.

Chytil and Cozens as your top six centers doesn't make you better, in fact it makes you worse, even if they give up a good dman to you.

Just some extreme examples of the time it takes to win, it requires patience. Of course a lot has to fall into place to win, but when you have two top six centers in your entire organization, trading one of them in a moment of weakness just doesn't come off as a good idea.
- Pacificgem

His NMC doesn’t concern you?

His NMC doesn’t concern you?
- CanuckDon

If things aren't working down the line he will probably be happy to go anyways, what is there to worry about?

His NMC doesn’t concern you?
- CanuckDon

No, Miller had one and they moved him. I think he could be easily convinced that a fresh start would do him well even if he had a NMC.

https://vancouver.citynew...canucks-elias-pettersson/

No, Miller had one and they moved him. I think he could be easily convinced that a fresh start would do him well even if he had a NMC.
- Pacificgem

Just some extreme examples of the time it takes to win, it requires patience. Of course a lot has to fall into place to win, but when you have two top six centers in your entire organization, trading one of them in a moment of weakness just doesn't come off as a good idea.

Chytil and Cozens as your top six centers doesn't make you better, in fact it makes you worse, even if they give up give you a good dman.
- Pacificgem

With the lack of talent on the roster and in the pool, I think it might be best to start over. Let's hope they get it right next time.

With the lack of talent on the roster and in the pool, I think it might be best to start over. Let's hope they get it right next time.
- Reubenkincade

Starting over would take a decade, and even then it's no guarantee of success. You could end up right back in the same place except you've wasted 10 years.

Selfishly, I'll be 69 years old, or dead, I'm not in favor!!

No, Miller had one and they moved him. I think he could be easily convinced that a fresh start would do him well even if he had a NMC.
- Pacificgem

The only team that will want him are bottom feeders like buffalo. Zero chance he is ever waving to a sh!t hole like that

Just some extreme examples of the time it takes to win, it requires patience. Of course a lot has to fall into place to win, but when you have two top six centers in your entire organization, trading one of them in a moment of weakness just doesn't come off as a good idea.

Chytil and Cozens as your top six centers doesn't make you better, in fact it makes you worse, even if they give up give you a good dman.
- Pacificgem

That's why you trade Hughes for Bedard while you're at it

- Load Management

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The only team that will want him are bottom feeders like buffalo. Zero chance he is ever waving to a sh!t hole like that
- CanuckDon

I would run it back with him after a proper summer of rest and training. If it doesn't work out I'm sure he could easily be convinced to move along. Not next year, but the year after, they cap is supposed to be 105 million.

That's why you trade Hughes for Bedard while you're at it
- NewYorkNuck

This isn't a video game.

I approve of this message.
- Pacificgem

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$32.00
- Load Management

Then $285,000 dollar hospital bill when you have a heart attack.

I would run it back with him after a proper summer of rest and training. If it doesn't work out I'm sure he could easily be convinced to move along. Not next year, but the year after, they cap is supposed to be 105 million.
- Pacificgem

Ok agree to disagree. I don’t want that little puke to have any control over his destination: let him rot in buffalo or Carolina

This isn't a video game.
- Pacificgem

You have no imagination.

Hughes + Suter to NJ for Nemec, Mercer, 2 1sts, +
Petey + Soucy to Buff for Cozens + Power
Nemec, Cozens, 2 1sts + for Bedard

Bedard, Chytil, Mercer up front; Power, Hronek, Pettersson, Willander on the back. Problems solved!

(This is all an unrealistic joke, btw)

You have no imagination.

Hughes + Suter to NJ for Nemec, Mercer, 2 1sts, +
Petey + Soucy to Buff for Cozens + Power
Nemec, Cozens, 2 1sts + for Bedard

Bedard, Chytil, Mercer up front; Power, Hronek, Pettersson, Willander on the back. Problems solved!

(This is all an unrealistic joke, btw)
- NewYorkNuck

You're no Nighthawk.