Do you know how dumb you sound saying the same crap over and over. No, Sanheim did not score last night, and he is the Flyers best dman by a mile.
- TheFreak

Sanheim has been very good as well. I think he is a #1D at this point. Maybe not top tier but certainly middle of the pack type 1D or lower Tier 1D.

Flyers seem content to fill out the roster with complimentary players with no clear plan to acquire truly elite players. Their strategy basically involves draft luck without helping themselves by intentionally making roster moves to improve draft position. Briere's trades so far have been Provy, Hayes, Walker, Frost, and Farabee basically. All of these roster players did not involve trying to move a complimentary piece in the hope of trading for a player with potential higher upside. Draft picks are lottery tickets especially outside the top 7.

Btw, it would be awesome if the NHL adopted the points given in the standings as they did in 4 Nations. They will never do it because the current points system allows basically all teams except 5 to have the illusion being in the playoff hunt over the last quarter of the season.

LOL you are going to die on this hill aren't you? Stepford for Lyfe.
- MBFlyerfan

Until proven otherwise I like the pick. Draft Rankings are not the Holy Bible. They dont mean jack.

The subject has been discussed and beaten to death as to why they both played out that way. But no, Flyerz geniuses!
- MBFlyerfan

I'm not saying i would have drafted jett at 14 but what i will say is i watch a lot of storm games and don't sleep on jett i think he has a higher ceiling then what's projected

Flyers seem content to fill out the roster with complimentary players with no clear plan to acquire truly elite players. Their strategy basically involves draft luck without helping themselves by intentionally making roster moves to improve draft position. Briere's trades so far have been Provy, Hayes, Walker, Frost, and Farabee basically. All of these roster players did not involve trying to move a complimentary piece in the hope of trading for a player with potential higher upside. Draft picks are lottery tickets especially outside the top 7.
- Trox88

If they don’t want to tank that is fine but selling off 30 years olds isn’t going to get them the talent they need either. Other teams want young cost controlled players. They would get way more for moving Bonk than Ristolainen. Unfortunately they are falling into the same trap as prior regimes in falling in love with their own players.

Like you said it’s get lucky in draft and sign UFAs. That’s the plan and it’s identical to every mid GM in the NHL.

If they don’t want to tank that is fine but selling off 30 years olds isn’t going to get them the talent they need either. Other teams want young cost controlled players. They would get way more for moving Bonk than Ristolainen. Unfortunately they are falling into the same trap as prior regimes in falling in love with their own players.

Like you said it’s get lucky in draft and sign UFAs. That’s the plan and it’s identical to every mid GM in the NHL.
- psuhockey

I agree. This is what happened with Konecny. I think a smart Gm would have looked at the landscape of the team and seen that trading him for what could have been a pretty solid package instead of tying long term money and term into him.

I agree. This is what happened with Konecny. I think a smart Gm would have looked at the landscape of the team and seen that trading him for what could have been a pretty solid package instead of tying long term money and term into him.
- J35Bacher

EDIT: Look how Colorado was able to move off Ratanaen once they knew the path forward wasn't going to work and capitalize on that asset.

If they don’t want to tank that is fine but selling off 30 years olds isn’t going to get them the talent they need either. Other teams want young cost controlled players. They would get way more for moving Bonk than Ristolainen. Unfortunately they are falling into the same trap as prior regimes in falling in love with their own players.

Like you said it’s get lucky in draft and sign UFAs. That’s the plan and it’s identical to every mid GM in the NHL.
- psuhockey

I agree with all of this. Most GMs have become extremely risk averse. Only a handful of GMs are truly bold. McCrimmon in Vegas and Zito in FLA come to mind. I still shake my head when the Flyers chose Fletcher over Zito.

Draft @ 12 and hope for the best. Spread leaks in the press how Briere really wanted to move into the top 6, but the price was ridiculous and other teams were unwilling to move. Extensions for York, Cates, and Foerster and look at how are young, complimentary players have developed because of our culture. Rinse and repeat.

Anyone else want to ignorantly state Drysdale is not improving?

Flyers seem content to fill out the roster with complimentary players with no clear plan to acquire truly elite players. Their strategy basically involves draft luck without helping themselves by intentionally making roster moves to improve draft position. Briere's trades so far have been Provy, Hayes, Walker, Frost, and Farabee basically. All of these roster players did not involve trying to move a complimentary piece in the hope of trading for a player with potential higher upside. Draft picks are lottery tickets especially outside the top 7.

Btw, it would be awesome if the NHL adopted the points given in the standings as they did in 4 Nations. They will never do it because the current points system allows basically all teams except 5 to have the illusion being in the playoff hunt over the last quarter of the season.
- Trox88

Completely agree. It's funny too, they HAD draft luck last year when Buium fell into their laps. They just chose to ignore it.

Do you know how dumb you sound saying the same crap over and over. No, Sanheim did not score last night, and he is the Flyers best dman by a mile.
- TheFreak

You know how dumb you sound when you repeatedly double down on your Risto hate. Risto is far and away playing the best out of all the Flyers defenseman, including your boy Sanheim.

LOL you are going to die on this hill aren't you? Stepford for Lyfe.
- MBFlyerfan

At least it is entertaining lol

Completely agree. It's funny too, they HAD draft luck last year when Buium fell into their laps. They just chose to ignore it.
- TobyFlenderson

So when Buium is playing in the AHL and Luchanko is lighting it up for the Flyers next year, you coming on this forum and stating Briere made the right pick?

Completely agree. It's funny too, they HAD draft luck last year when Buium fell into their laps. They just chose to ignore it.
- TobyFlenderson

Its meaningless. They had draft luck in 2017 too. Took the BPA and how did that work out? You cant base anything on a draft pick until you know the result. If Biuim ends up a bust like Nolan Patrick all this female doging and complaining was for nothing

Anyone else want to ignorantly state Drysdale is not improving?
- jd250

Yes. Using one game against a team that quit last night. He has a long way to go. Not good defensively and below average offensively. What an improvement.

Anyone want to ignorantly want to state Risto is the flyers beat dman.

So when Buium is playing in the AHL and Luchanko is lighting it up for the Flyers next year, you coming on this forum and stating Briere made the right pick?
- jd250

If he plays on the flyers it will be by default and incompetence.

Please define what him lighting it up will entail.

Its a quandary. I am always happy when they win a game, even though I know it is hurting them in the near and long future. I'm tired of being bad and also having no chance at truly elite talent without massive luck. They aren't going to luck in to a player like Michkov every year. They need to hit on these picks, IMO they have blown it the last 2 drafts except for the obvious pick that HAD to be made with Michkov.

If they keep drafting "Flyers Type Players" it wont ever change.
- MBFlyerfan

Blown it the past two drafts? Is Perrault playing for the Rangers? Is Buium playing for the Wild? Both Bonk and Luchanko are developing quite nicely in the OHL, and Bonk is on track to be playing for the Phantoms next year while Luchanko will make the Flyers out of camp. Perrault will be playing for the Rangers next year, and Buium will be in the AHL. What evidence can you present thus far to show that Briere has blown the past two drafts??

So when Buium is playing in the AHL and Luchanko is lighting it up for the Flyers next year, you coming on this forum and stating Briere made the right pick?
- jd250

If he's in the AHL next year, then that's what his team feels is best for his development. He will most likely get NHL games THIS YEAR because the Wild won't be stupid enough not to sign him to an ELC at the end of his NCAA season.

Also, what constitutes lighting it up in your eyes? You consider Ristolainen the best defenseman on the Flyers. If Luchanko makes the NHL team and scores 1 point before being returned to his junior team, is that lighting it up? Will you come on here and lament Briere made the wrong pick if Buium wins the Calder?

Yes. Using one game against a team that quit last night. He has a long way to go. Not good defensively and below average offensively. What an improvement.

Anyone want to ignorantly want to state Risto is the flyers beat dman.
- login

Risto is far and away the Flyers best defenseman. And its not just last night, Drysdale has 1. been healthy this season for the most part and 2. has shown steady improvement game to game. It's gone from small flashes to more steady play. Drysdale is never going to be a defensive stallworth, as Risto is. It's all about generating offense for Drysdale and that is what he is doing more and more each game.

Its meaningless. They had draft luck in 2017 too. Took the BPA and how did that work out? You cant base anything on a draft pick until you know the result. If Biuim ends up a bust like Nolan Patrick all this female doging and complaining was for nothing
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

To be clear in '17, they took Nolan Patrick who had an extensive injury heading into the draft. Groin injuries and concussion issues. Most prospects in rankings get dinged for injury history, David Jiricek comes to mind. For some reason, Patrick avoided that downgrade. Hexy rolled the dice with injury history and failed. Waddell did the same thing with Cayden Lindstrom last season, we'll see how that works out.

If he's in the AHL next year, then that's what his team feels is best for his development. He will most likely get NHL games THIS YEAR because the Wild won't be stupid enough not to sign him to an ELC at the end of his NCAA season.

Also, what constitutes lighting it up in your eyes? You consider Ristolainen the best defenseman on the Flyers. If Luchanko makes the NHL team and scores 1 point before being returned to his junior team, is that lighting it up? Will you come on here and lament Briere made the wrong pick if Buium wins the Calder?
- TobyFlenderson

If Buium plays for the Wild next season and gets the Calder and Luchanko (as a center) is not on the Flyers next year developing, I will absolutely lament Briere.

Blown it the past two drafts? Is Perrault playing for the Rangers? Is Buium playing for the Wild? Both Bonk and Luchanko are developing quite nicely in the OHL, and Bonk is on track to be playing for the Phantoms next year while Luchanko will make the Flyers out of camp. Perrault will be playing for the Rangers next year, and Buium will be in the AHL. What evidence can you present thus far to show that Briere has blown the past two drafts??
- jd250

Do you think him making the flyers out of camp is good for his long term development?

Completely agree. It's funny too, they HAD draft luck last year when Buium fell into their laps. They just chose to ignore it.
- TobyFlenderson

It will be interesting to see how Buium fits in Minnesota. Faber is only 22. Not a lot of power play time to go around. No insider knowledge but will Buium even sign there?

Risto is far and away the Flyers best defenseman. And its not just last night, Drysdale has 1. been healthy this season for the most part and 2. has shown steady improvement game to game. It's gone from small flashes to more steady play. Drysdale is never going to be a defensive stallworth, as Risto is. It's all about generating offense for Drysdale and that is what he is doing more and more each game.
- jd250

You have your opinion. Do not agree with soad opinions.

Risto should get a great package back in a trade then if what you say is true. Do you agree?

To be clear in '17, they took Nolan Patrick who had an extensive injury heading into the draft. Groin injuries and concussion issues. Most prospects in rankings get dinged for injury history, David Jiricek comes to mind. For some reason, Patrick avoided that downgrade. Hexy rolled the dice with injury history and failed. Waddell did the same thing with Cayden Lindstrom last season, we'll see how that works out.
- Trox88

Nolan Patrick was coming off MCL\ACL issues not concussion issues. There was no head related worries with him at that time