The Flyers will not get a better offer for Laughton regardless of when they trade him. He is worth a second round pick. Just trade him already.
- mickel25

It will be funny of they do accept a 2nd after hearing the GM talk him up the last few years about how valuable he is and need to be blown away by an offer. They rarely if ever sell high.

They may get a 1st if they include a pick or prospect going the other way as well.

Excuses.

so you don't think other coaches can can get more form these players offensively?

bottom line is they are going nowhere with this coach. even if they had more talent. hopefully the give him a 2 year ext
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I absolutely do think other coaches could, i never said he my favorite coach all i said he not as bad as other.

Personally i would hire coach q

Excuses.

so you don't think other coaches can can get more form these players offensively?

bottom line is they are going nowhere with this coach. even if they had more talent. hopefully the give him a 2 year ext
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I do not like that Torts tries to make every player into a 200ft, defense first player. I would prefer a coach that allows the player to do what they are good at and then coaches up other aspects.

It will be funny of they do accept a 2nd after hearing the GM talk him up the last few years about how valuable he is and need to be blown away by an offer. They rarely if ever sell high.

They may get a 1st if they include a pick or prospect going the other way as well.
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Yeah Laughton for a pick straight up nets a 2nd. Retention or an additional asset probably nets a 1st. I think taking back an undesirable contract nets the Flyers more than retention or adding a pick though.

Yeah Laughton for a pick straight up nets a 2nd. Retention or an additional asset probably nets a 1st. I think taking back an undesirable contract nets the Flyers more than retention or adding a pick though.
- mickel25

If they trade Risto what I think happens is no retention. Flyers take back a contract in the 2-3 million range with the same term. Him being the flyers best dman and legit top 4 player anything less than a 1st and a legit good prospect will be unacceptable.

No need to retain on Laughton unless to good a deal. He is paid accordingly.

Want him to play much more minutes. Live with the defensive issues. Now is the time to learn from them.

He isn’t going to get paid because of his defense. Not saying abandon his defense. Let him be so to speak.
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Hrs already shown he cant handle big minutes yet. He tires out and hits a wall. Its no surprise after the 4 nations break that hes producing again st a high level.

If they trade Risto what I think happens is no retention. Flyers take back a contract in the 2-3 million range with the same term. Him being the flyers best dman and legit top 4 player anything less than a 1st and a legit good prospect will be unacceptable.

No need to retain on Laughton unless to good a deal. He is paid accordingly.
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I'm tired of reading about how trading Risto and Laughton will create "holes" in the lineup. Who cares? Neither of these guys will be around when this team is a contender so what is the point? Risto is not part of the future, keeping him for present success is stupid and short sighted. The same goes for Laughton. Who cares if this current room will be damaged? Half these guys won't even be here when (or if) this team is ever a legitimate contender. The Flyers are acting like they are a few players from being a cup contender and the fans are eating it up. One or two more years and it's deep run time. They are delusional.

Hrs already shown he cant handle big minutes yet. He tires out and hits a wall. Its no surprise after the 4 nations break that hes producing again st a high level.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

No he hasn't. In some games sure. Overall do not agree. Funny how other rookies play a ton more minutes but he doesn't. Guess they can just handle it.

He needs to be more than 14 minutes a night. No valid reason why he shouldn’t

I'm tired of reading about how trading Risto and Laughton will create "holes" in the lineup. Who cares? Neither of these guys will be around when this team is a contender so what is the point? Risto is not part of the future, keeping him for present success is stupid and short sighted. The same goes for Laughton. Who cares if this current room will be damaged? Half these guys won't even be here when (or if) this team is ever a legitimate contender. The Flyers are acting like they are a few players from being a cup contender and the fans are eating it up. One or two more years and it's deep run time. They are delusional.
- MBFlyerfan

You sure?

You also forgot to add incompetent.

Your room ain’t that tight of moving Laughton will damage it

You sure?

You also forgot to add incompetent.
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I am sure. But it seems the Flyers aren't thinking long term, they truly think they have a chance to make the playoffs now, and trading him will hurt that chance just like it did when they traded Walker. It's like somehow they view trading Walker as a mistake and don't want to do that again.

I am sure. But it seems the Flyers aren't thinking long term, they truly think they have a chance to make the playoffs now, and trading him will hurt that chance just like it did when they traded Walker. It's like somehow they view trading Walker as a mistake and don't want to do that again.
- MBFlyerfan

Just a piss poor run organization. Never ever thought 25 years ago this is where they would be. With next to no hope in sight

I am sure. But it seems the Flyers aren't thinking long term, they truly think they have a chance to make the playoffs now, and trading him will hurt that chance just like it did when they traded Walker. It's like somehow they view trading Walker as a mistake and don't want to do that again.
- MBFlyerfan

If this was true they would be looking to buy. They are not. The full well know they are sellers. They also know a 2nd is not likely to obtain the type of player needed. They do have to push hard to get a 1st.

Laughton to caps for 2026 1st seems to be the big rumor right now

I think management is about to walk into a buzzsaw this trade deadline. They are leaking story after story about not getting much interest in any of their trade chips likely priming the fanbase for them doing nothing. This will be Briere’s Fletcher moment of trades are hard which will finally put the heat on these guys.

If this was true they would be looking to buy. They are not. The full well know they are sellers. They also know a 2nd is not likely to obtain the type of player needed. They do have to push hard to get a 1st.

Laughton to caps for 2026 1st seems to be the big rumor right now
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Well ask yourself this one question. Who is more likely to contribute in 5 years if/when the flyers are playoff contenders. Laughton or that player you get from the 2nd.

They can both buy and sell. No they do not know they are sellers.

In a rebuild, I thought players who were considered the future would be added more responsibility because results really did not matter. Michkov in a tie game, down a forward does not see a shift over the last 3 minutes in regulation. Protecting a point in the standings? Trying to develop Zamula and Drysdale, yet they go down to 4 Dman to protect a tie. Again, this is nothing new. I'm not sure how a player can replicate high leverage situations unless they actually play during those times of the game. I would have thought last night would have been a perfect learning opportunity again not taken by the coaching staff.

I think management is about to walk into a buzzsaw this trade deadline. They are leaking story after story about not getting much interest in any of their trade chips likely priming the fanbase for them doing nothing. This will be Briere’s Fletcher moment of trades are hard which will finally put the heat on these guys.
- psuhockey

Don't think internally there will be any heat no matter what they do; at least not for a long while. Hilferty like Scott is a buffoon when it comes to running a hockey team. They have him in the back pocket.

wow, that is the definition of a predatory hit, puck was no where near him
- Trox88

Does the NHL have a predatory hit rule like the NFL? Apparently not...

Does the NHL have a predatory hit rule like the NFL? Apparently not...
- mr4tno

We'll see if the NHL further disciplines the players after the fact. It was a blindside hit with the puck anywhere close to the player. Imama skated directly towards Hathaway to make the hit. Silly to make the argument since it was not head contact, it should have not been a major. The hit still had a high chance of injury for all the reasons listed above.

If this was true they would be looking to buy. They are not. The full well know they are sellers. They also know a 2nd is not likely to obtain the type of player needed. They do have to push hard to get a 1st.

Laughton to caps for 2026 1st seems to be the big rumor right now
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

They can't buy. They don't have the space to make a true splash. If they did, they would. And yes I know they have $7,938,471 ($4,000,000 LTIR) in deadline cap space. But they have to think about the players on LTIR and how that will affect the cap this offseason. And who would they be buying anyway?

If they truly had the cap space they would be buying and have said as much that this is the plan when they really do free up real cap space.

Dont be surprised if they don't move anyone.

Don't think internally there will be any heat no matter what they do; at least not for a long while. Hilferty like Scott is a buffoon when it comes to running a hockey team. They have him in the back pocket.
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Hockey is a gate driven business. The fans in hockey can absolutely get people fired. Fletcher got fired because of the disastrous town hall after the TDL not for being a terrible GM. He was also liked by management. There’s a reason Jones was hired just for fan relations.

Just a piss poor run organization. Never ever thought 25 years ago this is where they would be. With next to no hope in sight
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Why not? They’ve been chasing the Bullies days for 50 years. Always behind the times. Valuing grit over skill. Trying to buy talent rather than developing it. They haven’t had an innovative GM/Coach tandem since Allen/Shero.

Why not? They’ve been chasing the Bullies days for 50 years. Always behind the times. Valuing grit over skill. Trying to buy talent rather than developing it. They haven’t had an innovative GM/Coach tandem since Allen/Shero.
- Dkos

Really. If you can't figure it out then don't know what to tell you.

Hockey is a gate driven business. The fans in hockey can absolutely get people fired. Fletcher got fired because of the disastrous town hall after the TDL not for being a terrible GM. He was also liked by management. There’s a reason Jones was hired just for fan relations.
- psuhockey

Chuck was fired because he was incompetent. It also wouldn’t surprise me if Torts had some kind of hand in it as well.

This management team is in zero danger of being let go. Their attendance I believe has increased, slightly, compared to last year. Unless they all of a sudden have a few thousand fan drop off. No heat

Why not? They’ve been chasing the Bullies days for 50 years. Always behind the times. Valuing grit over skill. Trying to buy talent rather than developing it. They haven’t had an innovative GM/Coach tandem since Allen/Shero.
- Dkos

We can certainly criticize the results, which ultimately no Stanley Cup wins. However, Clarke and Homer are far different from Hexy, Fletcher, and Briere. Draft and develop is one component, but is it more important then trading assets to build a team? I would disagree, I believe both avenues are equal importance.

Why not? They’ve been chasing the Bullies days for 50 years. Always behind the times. Valuing grit over skill. Trying to buy talent rather than developing it. They haven’t had an innovative GM/Coach tandem since Allen/Shero.
- Dkos

Think about the key players on the Lindros teams. Almost all of them were acquired via trade. Lindros, LeClair, Desjardins, Brind Amour. That is what has changed in the last 25 years. You can't trade and sign your way to a title. Money was the only advantage they had back then.

They have never been able to build a team via the draft. Or at least develop key pieces.