In an entirely believable move, Vegas signed some racist POS yesterday

https://www.canucksdaily....z-to-entry-level-contract
- NorthNuck

Maybe he learned and grew from his mistake? I’m glad the Canucks didn’t sign him but this is also part of the reason Vegas wins cups and we don’t. They are ruthless and will do anything to improve.

Maybe he learned and grew from his mistake? I’m glad the Canucks didn’t sign him but this is also part of the reason Vegas wins cups and we don’t. They are ruthless and will do anything to improve.
- CanuckDon

They did the press release at like 11:30pm to try and avoid backlash

You'd know all about sub par Dmen. I'm sure any Goalie that plays behind you does as well.
- Load Management

In an entirely believable move, Vegas signed some racist POS yesterday

https://www.canucksdaily....z-to-entry-level-contract
- NorthNuck

There are tons of POS in all pro sports. What’s new?

That stat is more of a baseball stat. It doesn't have much relevance in Hockey at all. Of coarse he gives up more chances against. Look at where he starts most of the time. You need to watch the games more and spreadsheets less.
- Load Management

No, it isn’t.

No, it isn’t.
- neem55

OK I'll rephrase. It's a pretty useless estimate in Hockey.

OK I'll rephrase. It's a pretty useless estimate in Hockey.
- Load Management

OK I'll rephrase. It's a pretty useless estimate in Hockey.
- Load Management

WAR has zero value in hockey. It’s one nerd that keeps pushing it and all of his work and research is worthless

OK I'll rephrase. It's a pretty useless estimate in Hockey.
- Load Management

I guess if you want to say something like whether player get more quality chances when a particular player is on the ice is "useless". But that's Driftwood IQ logic at best, simply objectively not true.

Not my type, wouldn't know.
- Reubenkincade

WAR has zero value in hockey. It’s one nerd that keeps pushing it and all of his work and research is worthless
- CanuckDon

It's referenced in hockey stories literallly every day. There's definetly a difference between not being educated enough to understand stats and them being useless. Every team in the NHL uses them, Tocchet talks about high danger chances all the time(which is one of the variables in WAR).

It's referenced in hockey stories literallly every day. There's definetly a difference between not being educated enough to understand stats and them being useless. Every team in the NHL uses them, Tocchet talks about high danger chances all the time(which is one of the variables in WAR).
- neem55

I’m afraid you don’t know what you are talking about again. It’s wild that someone that spends so much time on a hockey site can literally not know anything about hockey. I’m not even mad, I’m impressed

WAR has zero value in hockey. It’s one nerd that keeps pushing it and all of his work and research is worthless
- CanuckDon

It's referenced in hockey stories literallly every day. There's definetly a difference between not being educated enough to understand stats and them being useless. Every team in the NHL uses them, Tocchet talks about high danger chances all the time(which is one of the variables in WAR).

I guess if you want to say something like whether player get more quality chances when a particular player is on the ice is "useless". But that's Driftwood IQ logic at best, simply objectively not true.
- neem55

Do you have any ideas as to what
Boeser, Soucy, Suter, Forbert might fetch on the upcoming sellers market?

I’m afraid you don’t know what you are talking about again. It’s wild that someone that spends so much time on a hockey site can literally not know anything about hockey. I’m not even mad, I’m impressed
- CanuckDon

This is pretty ironic, out of your element once again Donny.

Do you have any ideas as to what
Boeser, Soucy, Suter, Forbert might fetch on the upcoming sellers market?
- Brooks_Light

It seems to me certain guys go for way above value every tdl, pretty hard to predict imo

It's referenced in hockey stories literallly every day. There's definetly a difference between not being educated enough to understand stats and them being useless. Every team in the NHL uses them, Tocchet talks about high danger chances all the time(which is one of the variables in WAR).
- neem55

I suppose learning them from some online dude trumps the 3 stats courses I took in College and passed. You're correct on one thing, the difference in being educated enough to understand where things break down and become useless. Things like bias and loss within the qualitative and quantitative data collection for your algorithms. What is high danger to you? Because it's different for everyone. Who sets the standards for the baseline?

I'd rather watch the games and use tangible knowledge to predict.

I suppose learning them from some online dude trumps the 3 stats courses I took in College and passed. You're correct on one thing, the difference in being educated enough to understand where things break down and become useless. Things like bias and loss within the qualitative and quantitative data collection for your algorithms. What is high danger to you? Because it's different for everyone. Who sets the standards for the baseline?

I'd rather watch the games and use tangible knowledge to predict.
- Load Management

I did my MA and setup databases myself, so we have that in common. It's pretty simple, high danger attempts are shots from the slot uncontested(simplified example). Its actually not that hard to quantify. [img][/img]

I did my MA and setup databases myself, so we have that in common. It's pretty simple, high danger attempts are shots from the slot uncontested(simplified example). Its actually not that hard to quantify.
- neem55

Not in Hockey. In Baseball yes because it's a more linear sport. There's a boatload more variables to consider in Hockey. Some of which I touched on. But at this point I'm done messing with you. I'm not really into Math enough anymore to go any further. The stats that I sorta enjoy are far more practical to my personal knowledge.