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jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Yesterday @ 10:07 AM ET
Yea it’s basically the only path. I looked at ufa centers the next two years. Zero options there. Danny I don’t see offer sheeting anyone. It has to be this or the next draft.
- Just5

Agreed! I think the plan is after 2026 for Briere to start spending money on free agents. So the rest of this season and next season is about drafting, developing, and evaluating what they have, and then in 2027 Briere will start adding. I think this is why he kept Risto, is because Briere believes the Flyers will be contending much sooner than people think. I hope so, but I don't see it yet. Maybe with trades this summer we will see more clearly what the path is.
Dkos
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Yesterday @ 10:10 AM ET
O and congrats

this board is a shadow of itself, like our team, but it appears to still to have the most comments by far.

- wcorvette

Toronto’s has about 400 more than this one.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Yesterday @ 10:19 AM ET
I hope they don't sign Pelletier. He is a poor man's version of Frosty. I'd rather have Frosty based on what I've seen of Pelly so far. We have more than enough small forwards who lack physicality.
- Don Nachbaur


I hope they sign him. Yes he is similar to Frost in the sense he is underperforming but he is also someone that can be signed cheap and buried if it doesnt work out. Flyers should take the time to see if they can make this kid into something. He was doing well in CGY before the trade.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Yesterday @ 10:20 AM ET
Agreed! I think the plan is after 2026 for Briere to start spending money on free agents. So the rest of this season and next season is about drafting, developing, and evaluating what they have, and then in 2027 Briere will start adding. I think this is why he kept Risto, is because Briere believes the Flyers will be contending much sooner than people think. I hope so, but I don't see it yet. Maybe with trades this summer we will see more clearly what the path is.
- jd250

Unless Jett is immediately Giroux 2.0 there’s no way this team should be spending in free agency in the next two years. The pieces aren’t in the pipeline yet. This is why people were so miffed he didn’t make a move for a blue chip center prospect at last year’s draft.

More half assing from the front office yet again.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Yesterday @ 10:22 AM ET
I thought next year's cap will be over 95 million, so they should start with 27 million in space (according to Puckpedia). Maybe I'm missing something. Foerster will probably get a 2 yr bridge deal. Cates will be a very interesting negotiation. He is 1 year from being a UFA, signing him to a multi year deal, they will have to buy UFA year- how much will that cost? York is 24- looking at a 3 yr deal to get him to UFA status. See I believe he will be traded because Andrae is NHL ready and cheaper to play as a LH Dman. Pelletier would get tendered, whatever the minimum salary required. They might bury Fedotov in the AHL next season, which will save them some money.
- Trox88
I dont know what its going up to. I forgot to add in + cap increase. My projections are for a 82 mill cap hit so yes there will be more depending on how big the increase is. I would think the Flyers may take a run at Marner if hes available. If they get sense they can sign him TK could be moved for a C. Briere seemed hesitant on this years free agency in the presser though
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Yesterday @ 10:26 AM ET
And so it begins, Andrae in for York. Still think York gets traded in summer, time to scuttle value in a trade or make negotiations more contentious on a new contract.

I cannot make the argument Zamula has played significantly better then York.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Yesterday @ 10:34 AM ET
Unless Jett is immediately Giroux 2.0 there’s no way this team should be spending in free agency in the next two years. The pieces aren’t in the pipeline yet. This is why people were so miffed he didn’t make a move for a blue chip center prospect at last year’s draft.

More half assing from the front office yet again.

- hereticpride

I think Jett will be a very good player. Not sure if he will be a 1C, but he definitely has a chance to be a top 6 center in the NHL. I think Briere has some big plans this off season that will reshape this team. Then with another year of Michkov and a year with Jett, and keep your eye on Bump who we might see this year, I think there is a lot to look forward to. Cates, Foerster, Brink and Drsydale all look like they will be good NHL players. Happy to see Drysdale staying on the ice now, that off season he put in to improve his fitness is really paying off. Then you augment with free agents in 2027 and we'll see where they are at. I think the goaltending will be an issue, what else is new. However, until I see a 1C and true 1D on this team, I don't see them being serious contenders.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Yesterday @ 10:35 AM ET
I thought B…. In a heavy sellers market I actually thought he could have done more.
- landros 2


What more could he have done? The Flyers didnt have the assets to move like other teams. Ristolainen did not get much interest. We sold Laughton over his value and per Brieres presser there were a few calls inquiring on other players but nothing serious.

We moved our pending UFA Kuzmenko and EJ. What more could have been done? A lot of what moved were better assets than PHI had. Carlo was a cheaper cap hit. Leafs got him at a 3.4 mil cap hit. Flyers would need to retain a lot to match that. BOS was only willing to do 15% Flyers would need to retain 34% to match that and thats a lot for 2 years past this season to tie up, especially when we can likely move the full contract with no retention in the offseason
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Yesterday @ 10:35 AM ET
And so it begins, Andrae in for York. Still think York gets traded in summer, time to scuttle value in a trade or make negotiations more contentious on a new contract.

I cannot make the argument Zamula has played significantly better then York.

- Trox88

I agree, I think there is a good chance York gets traded versus being extended. I think Briere made it clear he wants the Flyers to get bigger on defense, and Drysdale and Andrae are both small already. This is why I think if the Flyers can get to say the 6 spot in this draft, and Hagens falls to say 3 or 4, there is a good chance the Flyers can trade their pick + York and move up to get their 1C.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Yesterday @ 10:40 AM ET
What more could he have done? The Flyers didnt have the assets to move like other teams. Ristolainen did not get much interest. We sold Laughton over his value and per Brieres presser there were a few calls inquiring on other players but nothing serious.

We moved our pending UFA Kuzmenko and EJ. What more could have been done? A lot of what moved were better assets than PHI had. Carlo was a cheaper cap hit. Leafs got him at a 3.4 mil cap hit. Flyers would need to retain a lot to match that. BOS was only willing to do 15% Flyers would need to retain 34% to match that and thats a lot for 2 years past this season to tie up, especially when we can likely move the full contract with no retention in the offseason

- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Yes its was clear Toronto cared very much about the cap hits, and they must have felt Carlo was as good as Risto and thus chose Carlo. I think despite what we hear, Briere wanted to move Risto for their 2026 1st and Minten, but Toronto chose Carlo instead.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Yesterday @ 10:42 AM ET
Most underrated move of the trade deadline was IMO the Bruins getting Will Zeller as a throw-in in the Charlie Coyle trade to Colorado. Zeller has 47 goals in 52 games in the USHL, which is outstanding. Really good move by Sweeny. He has a chance to be the better player coming back to Bsoton in that deal.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Yesterday @ 10:42 AM ET
Losing Laughton is “scary” as per our GM. We are entering a dark, dark place. Buckle up
- Just5


What do you want him to say? The guy thats been with the team for 12 years was poop and were glad someone overpaid for him to finally be rid of him? He's being respectful and appreciative to Laughton for his time with the team not to mention Briere literally played on this team with him. It is not a good look for a boss to come out and act like the guy who dedicated his career to a team didnt matter
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Yesterday @ 10:43 AM ET
What do you want him to say? The guy thats been with the team for 12 years was poop and were glad someone overpaid for him to finally be rid of him? He's being respectful and appreciative to Laughton for his time with the team not to mention Briere literally played on this team with him. It is not a good look for a boss to come out and act like the guy who dedicated his career to a team didnt matter
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Absolutely correct, just GM Speak
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Yesterday @ 10:46 AM ET
I think Jett will be a very good player. Not sure if he will be a 1C, but he definitely has a chance to be a top 6 center in the NHL. I think Briere has some big plans this off season that will reshape this team. Then with another year of Michkov and a year with Jett, and keep your eye on Bump who we might see this year, I think there is a lot to look forward to. Cates, Foerster, Brink and Drsydale all look like they will be good NHL players. Happy to see Drysdale staying on the ice now, that off season he put in to improve his fitness is really paying off. Then you augment with free agents in 2027 and we'll see where they are at. I think the goaltending will be an issue, what else is new. However, until I see a 1C and true 1D on this team, I don't see them being serious contenders.
- jd250

And that is the exact problem right there. Danny wants to start thinking about spending in free agency with no solid projected 1C for this team anywhere in the pipeline. 1C’s rarely hit the open market and if they do you’re fighting with 20 some other teams for them. What are we gonna do go, over pay Marner and then hope someone will trade a 1C for Konecny? Ain’t gonna happen.

He has to draft or trade for a legit 1C prospect this summer. No more kicking the can down the road or drafting guys we think can be better than their 2C projections.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Yesterday @ 11:01 AM ET
Yes its was clear Toronto cared very much about the cap hits, and they must have felt Carlo was as good as Risto and thus chose Carlo. I think despite what we hear, Briere wanted to move Risto for their 2026 1st and Minten, but Toronto chose Carlo instead.
- jd250


They probably were after Carlo from the start which is why we didnt get the 2026 pick and Minten for Laughton was declined
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Yesterday @ 11:04 AM ET
I agree, I think there is a good chance York gets traded versus being extended. I think Briere made it clear he wants the Flyers to get bigger on defense, and Drysdale and Andrae are both small already. This is why I think if the Flyers can get to say the 6 spot in this draft, and Hagens falls to say 3 or 4, there is a good chance the Flyers can trade their pick + York and move up to get their 1C.
- jd250


I believe Briere is going to be disappointed for the third consecutive draft year if he believes any GM has the appetite to trade out of the top 5 even a few spots. I really hope that is not the plan. I would think using York and other assets (could be other players on the roster) to trade for a center under the age of 27. For me, the Farabee trade made that a likely outcome.

I firmly believe as the cap rises, a significant number of teams will not be willing to spend to the ceiling. Wyatt Johnson extension will have an impact across the league. He is a borderline great player already, but not elite like a Draisatil or McDavid coming out of their ELC. He signed an extension taking him up to being a UFA for 8.4 million/yr. Really good RFAs are probably going to be traded because they want that guaranteed money right away up until UFA status as opposed to the "2 year bridge deal". York definitely falls in this category. How much are RFAs like Vilardi, Rossi, McTavish are going to ask for could be sticker shock this summer for their teams? The end of the flat cap is going to change the league.


landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Yesterday @ 11:11 AM ET
What more could he have done? The Flyers didnt have the assets to move like other teams. Ristolainen did not get much interest. We sold Laughton over his value and per Brieres presser there were a few calls inquiring on other players but nothing serious.

We moved our pending UFA Kuzmenko and EJ. What more could have been done? A lot of what moved were better assets than PHI had. Carlo was a cheaper cap hit. Leafs got him at a 3.4 mil cap hit. Flyers would need to retain a lot to match that. BOS was only willing to do 15% Flyers would need to retain 34% to match that and thats a lot for 2 years past this season to tie up, especially when we can likely move the full contract with no retention in the offseason

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


We have a 25Th place team in the NHL . We have no #1 C….probably not even a #2. We have no #1 D…..we have below average goaltending. Anyone not named Michkov should have been on table yesterday. The prices paid were rare. I don’t listen to GM speak about what was out there or on the table. What I did hear him say is that playoffs are the goal NEXT year….if that isn’t or this hasn’t been the dumbest rebuild I’ve ever witnessed I don’t know what is. But ya we got a 2027 1rst…excuse me if I’m not overly impressed.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Yesterday @ 11:21 AM ET
They probably were after Carlo from the start which is why we didnt get the 2026 pick and Minten for Laughton was declined
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Yes, probably true, and I think based on what Briere said yesterday that he was asking for a lot more than what Toronto paid for Carlo.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Yesterday @ 11:24 AM ET
I believe Briere is going to be disappointed for the third consecutive draft year if he believes any GM has the appetite to trade out of the top 5 even a few spots. I really hope that is not the plan. I would think using York and other assets (could be other players on the roster) to trade for a center under the age of 27. For me, the Farabee trade made that a likely outcome.

I firmly believe as the cap rises, a significant number of teams will not be willing to spend to the ceiling. Wyatt Johnson extension will have an impact across the league. He is a borderline great player already, but not elite like a Draisatil or McDavid coming out of their ELC. He signed an extension taking him up to being a UFA for 8.4 million/yr. Really good RFAs are probably going to be traded because they want that guaranteed money right away up until UFA status as opposed to the "2 year bridge deal". York definitely falls in this category. How much are RFAs like Vilardi, Rossi, McTavish are going to ask for could be sticker shock this summer for their teams? The end of the flat cap is going to change the league.

- Trox88

I think the Flyers have the assets to trade up into the top 5, IF they end the season with pick 6-8. Think about it. If you are a team that wants a rapid rebuild and there is not a generational talent at the top of the draft, this may be the draft the teams would be willing to trade down a few spots. So for example, if the Flyers really want Hagens, which Bundy has been stating for a while now, and the Flyers have the 6th pick say, they can trade the 6th pick, another 1st round pick and a player like York to get up to 3 and get Hagens. I can see that happening. I think that is a path the Flyers can take.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Yesterday @ 11:26 AM ET
Lmao. Open eyes wider. He’s not making any moves. None. Zilch. Nada.


Stayin alive, where are you? You said DB has no guts to make any moves. They might not be the best moves but he traded the "Room" who a majority on here said will never be traded. What are your thoughts?

- Don Nachbaur

Middling. Borderline criminal had he not traded a few pieces. Choose the pieces you like. Was the return earth shattering? No. Decent? Yes. Relevant? Not really in the grand scheme of things.

Nothing done to prove they have any real plan other than status quo rhetoric. Zero faith they make any real intelligent moves
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Yesterday @ 11:30 AM ET
I think the Flyers have the assets to trade up into the top 5, IF they end the season with pick 6-8. Think about it. If you are a team that wants a rapid rebuild and there is not a generational talent at the top of the draft, this may be the draft the teams would be willing to trade down a few spots. So for example, if the Flyers really want Hagens, which Bundy has been stating for a while now, and the Flyers have the 6th pick say, they can trade the 6th pick, another 1st round pick and a player like York to get up to 3 and get Hagens. I can see that happening. I think that is a path the Flyers can take.
- jd250


Had they moved out Risto and maybe even a York, they would have had to try and trade into the top 5….they probably would have gotten there all on there own.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Yesterday @ 11:34 AM ET
What do you want him to say? The guy thats been with the team for 12 years was poop and were glad someone overpaid for him to finally be rid of him? He's being respectful and appreciative to Laughton for his time with the team not to mention Briere literally played on this team with him. It is not a good look for a boss to come out and act like the guy who dedicated his career to a team didnt matter
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


What’s scary is the teams future. Not losing Laughton
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Yesterday @ 11:37 AM ET
They’re highly likely to land in the 6-9 pick range. Who are we looking at for a center there? Is there a cwnter projected to be at 3 or 4 we could make a move for?
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Yesterday @ 11:37 AM ET
I think the Flyers have the assets to trade up into the top 5, IF they end the season with pick 6-8. Think about it. If you are a team that wants a rapid rebuild and there is not a generational talent at the top of the draft, this may be the draft the teams would be willing to trade down a few spots. So for example, if the Flyers really want Hagens, which Bundy has been stating for a while now, and the Flyers have the 6th pick say, they can trade the 6th pick, another 1st round pick and a player like York to get up to 3 and get Hagens. I can see that happening. I think that is a path the Flyers can take.
- jd250


I understand that reasoning, but when has it happened over the last 20 years trading out of the top 5. I do not believe it has happened since '02. Certainly, there have been "weak" drafts before this one. A GM trading out of the top 5 even a few spots is still running the risk of not getting a top player on his draft board. That is why trading out of the top 5 has very rarely happened. I'm not trying to be an a$$ here, just the likelihood of it happening is extremely low.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...g-top-10-nhl-draft-picks/
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Yesterday @ 11:38 AM ET
I dont know what its going up to. I forgot to add in + cap increase. My projections are for a 82 mill cap hit so yes there will be more depending on how big the increase is. I would think the Flyers may take a run at Marner if hes available. If they get sense they can sign him TK could be moved for a C. Briere seemed hesitant on this years free agency in the presser though
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


I’ve been reading that the leafs are really working hard to re sign him. I also listened to kypreos on sportsnet. He said the leafs had offered 2 firsts and their top two prospects for rantanen. Minten and Cowan. The reason Carolina went with the lesser Dallas offer was that they didn’t want rantanen in the east conference.
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