LMAO what a joke and troll post. F? Seriously?

Nails Provy trade and flips one of the cap dumps for another first

Lands MM and gets him to come over early

Stacks the team with 3 1sts and 4 2nds this draft

Clearly that all equates to an F. Give your head a shake. You claim people drink the koolaid yet you are no different, just the opposite side of the spectrum
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Provy was not a hard trade honestly. Torts wanted him out and was forced out. It was a good trade.

He LUCKED into MM b/c he refused to go anywhere else prior to the draft. Eve if those rumors are true it would have been pure stupidity and gross negligence.

"Stacks" is certainly a word I would not use. This draft is not saving this franchise... I hope to hell we get an impact but the chances of getting more than one is pretty bleak.

It is comical that for a team stuck in purgatory, there is no aggressiveness to try and get out of it.

I am not saying just make a trade but everything seems to be wait, wait, wait and hope it falls into place.

This is the most mediocre franchise and that is embarrassing for major market team

LMAO what a joke and troll post. F? Seriously?

Nails Provy trade and flips one of the cap dumps for another first

Lands MM and gets him to come over early

Stacks the team with 3 1sts and 4 2nds this draft

Clearly that all equates to an F. Give your head a shake. You claim people drink the koolaid yet you are no different, just the opposite side of the spectrum
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Let’s look at these individually…
Nails provy? What exactly did they do no one else would in those circumstances?

Trades walker? They did everything they could to resign him. Only traded when forced. No credit given sorry

Lands mm? You’re joking right? No credit there whatsoever. I mean brain dead decision there. And getting him over here? Was there any doubt he was coming? Again no credit for that


Stacks team with all these picks? Who cares. None are top picks. Do you actually think they will or have ability to flip those picks for high end picks or talent? They don’t. So they will add a stable of players basically equivalent to what they have now. Again no credit given sorry

Now let’s look at what a real gm does when taking over….
1) he cleans house if he’s rebuilding like they SAID they were doing.
2) trades all pending free agents for what he can get. He makes moves to rid cap
3) he does NOT resign players like Rp or Seeler

And biggest of all he trades real assets like tk for future assets not give 8 year extensions to mid level players like tk.


If you want to give “some “ credit then fine he gets a “D” grade. So no my koolaid and trolling isn’t that. It’s an honest assessment of db.

Let’s look at these individually…
Nails provy? What exactly did they do no one else would in those circumstances?

Trades walker? They did everything they could to resign him. Only traded when forced. No credit given sorry

Lands mm? You’re joking right? No credit there whatsoever. I mean brain dead decision there. And getting him over here? Was there any doubt he was coming? Again no credit for that


Stacks team with all these picks? Who cares. None are top picks. Do you actually think they will or have ability to flip those picks for high end picks or talent? They don’t. So they will add a stable of players basically equivalent to what they have now. Again no credit given sorry

Now let’s look at what a real gm does when taking over….
1) he cleans house if he’s rebuilding like they SAID they were doing.
2) trades all pending free agents for what he can get. He makes moves to rid cap
3) he does NOT resign players like Rp or Seeler

And biggest of all he trades real assets like tk for future assets not give 8 year extensions to mid level players like tk.


If you want to give “some “ credit then fine he gets a “D” grade. So no my koolaid and trolling isn’t that. It’s an honest assessment of db.
- Stayin alive

And I forgot to add the complete (frank) up cutter situation. And also the fact that had db done what was needed we’d be 2 years into this true rebuild instead we are discussing the same tired poop with mostly same players years later.

Yeah can’t even give him a d grade it’s a straight f no matter how you slice it

Let’s look at these individually…
Nails provy? What exactly did they do no one else would in those circumstances?

Trades walker? They did everything they could to resign him. Only traded when forced. No credit given sorry

Lands mm? You’re joking right? No credit there whatsoever. I mean brain dead decision there. And getting him over here? Was there any doubt he was coming? Again no credit for that


Stacks team with all these picks? Who cares. None are top picks. Do you actually think they will or have ability to flip those picks for high end picks or talent? They don’t. So they will add a stable of players basically equivalent to what they have now. Again no credit given sorry

Now let’s look at what a real gm does when taking over….
1) he cleans house if he’s rebuilding like they SAID they were doing.
2) trades all pending free agents for what he can get. He makes moves to rid cap
3) he does NOT resign players like Rp or Seeler

And biggest of all he trades real assets like tk for future assets not give 8 year extensions to mid level players like tk.


If you want to give “some “ credit then fine he gets a “D” grade. So no my koolaid and trolling isn’t that. It’s an honest assessment of db.
- Stayin alive

Everything they have done is to stay in the middle.

Everything they have done is to stay in the middle.
- J35Bacher

I hate to think that is the plan but it is getting really hard to no believe they are just staying in purgatory to sell tickets to fans that haven't a clue.

It is comical that for a team stuck in purgatory, there is no aggressiveness to try and get out of it.

I am not saying just make a trade but everything seems to be wait, wait, wait and hope it falls into place.

This is the most mediocre franchise and that is embarrassing for major market team
- J35Bacher

I don't get it. I understand not wanting to make trades just to make trades and not wanting to trade players for pennies on the dollar. But there has to be an acknowledgement that this team right now is not bad enough to get a top 5 pick and not good enough to make the playoffs. And there also has to be an acknowledgement that teams are not trading 1Cs and 1Ds, not trading out of the top 5 in the draft and that free agency is not worth it given the age of the players and where this team is at. So the only viable option I see is drafting and developing. What am I missing?

Let’s look at these individually…
Nails provy? What exactly did they do no one else would in those circumstances?

Trades walker? They did everything they could to resign him. Only traded when forced. No credit given sorry

Lands mm? You’re joking right? No credit there whatsoever. I mean brain dead decision there. And getting him over here? Was there any doubt he was coming? Again no credit for that


Stacks team with all these picks? Who cares. None are top picks. Do you actually think they will or have ability to flip those picks for high end picks or talent? They don’t. So they will add a stable of players basically equivalent to what they have now. Again no credit given sorry

Now let’s look at what a real gm does when taking over….
1) he cleans house if he’s rebuilding like they SAID they were doing.
2) trades all pending free agents for what he can get. He makes moves to rid cap
3) he does NOT resign players like Rp or Seeler

And biggest of all he trades real assets like tk for future assets not give 8 year extensions to mid level players like tk.


If you want to give “some “ credit then fine he gets a “D” grade. So no my koolaid and trolling isn’t that. It’s an honest assessment of db.
- Stayin alive

So every GM would get two 1sts, a 2nd and two Cap Dumps for Provorov? Yea no. That was a really good return that GMs would struggle to find. It was a good move by Briere.

Did I list trading walker? I said He flipped a Cap dump for a 1st. Many here are quick to forget how they flocked here and said a 1st was a pipe dream, just like with Laughton. My point was WE DID get the 1st we wanted.

I love that people keep saying MM was a no brainer. He literally dropped to 7th to fall in our lap. Clearly there was risk to the pick for 5 other teams to pass on him. Chicago omitted because of Bedard

Clowns like you love to focus on just the negatives and do everything in their power to spin it as negative. I never once claimed. Briere has done everything right nor that hes an A+ GM but to say hes an F just shows how much of a clown you are. F is worst GM in the league, give me a break. Mike Milbury is an F, Hell even Fletcher is like a D. Briere hasnt been anywhere near as bad as those 2. Even if Briere did things he was expected to do that would be Mediocre not failure. You literally disregard everything that isnt amazing and focus on the things you dont like. Give your head a shake.

It is comical that for a team stuck in purgatory, there is no aggressiveness to try and get out of it.

I am not saying just make a trade but everything seems to be wait, wait, wait and hope it falls into place.

This is the most mediocre franchise and that is embarrassing for major market team
- J35Bacher

And that’s the one thing that has eluded Briere this whole time: he’s not aggressive.

So every GM would get two 1sts, a 2nd and two Cap Dumps for Provorov? Yea no. That was a really good return that GMs would struggle to find. It was a good move by Briere.

Did I list trading walker? I said He flipped a Cap dump for a 1st. Many here are quick to forget how they flocked here and said a 1st was a pipe dream, just like with Laughton. My point was WE DID get the 1st we wanted.

I love that people keep saying MM was a no brainer. He literally dropped to 7th to fall in our lap. Clearly there was risk to the pick for 5 other teams to pass on him. Chicago omitted because of Bedard

Clowns like you love to focus on just the negatives and do everything in their power to spin it as negative. I never once claimed. Briere has done everything right nor that hes an A+ GM but to say hes an F just shows how much of a clown you are. F is worst GM in the league, give me a break. Mike Milbury is an F, Hell even Fletcher is like a D. Briere hasnt been anywhere near as bad as those 2. Even if Briere did things he was expected to do that would be Mediocre not failure. You literally disregard everything that isnt amazing and focus on the things you dont like. Give your head a shake.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

He did luck out on MM just like they lucked out w Zeev and decided to take the next 200 foot 3C in Jett.

I don't get it. I understand not wanting to make trades just to make trades and not wanting to trade players for pennies on the dollar. But there has to be an acknowledgement that this team right now is not bad enough to get a top 5 pick and not good enough to make the playoffs. And there also has to be an acknowledgement that teams are not trading 1Cs and 1Ds, not trading out of the top 5 in the draft and that free agency is not worth it given the age of the players and where this team is at. So the only viable option I see is drafting and developing. What am I missing?
- jd250

Cough Frost and Farabee. Both should have been moved out long before they were. Especially Frost as it was clear the Coach didn't want him around. Now they have squat to show for 2 former 1st rd picks.

It is comical that for a team stuck in purgatory, there is no aggressiveness to try and get out of it.

I am not saying just make a trade but everything seems to be wait, wait, wait and hope it falls into place.

This is the most mediocre franchise and that is embarrassing for major market team
- J35Bacher

Spot on!

Cough Frost and Farabee. Both should have been moved out long before they were. Especially Frost as it was clear the Coach didn't want him around. Now they have squat to show for 2 former 1st rd picks.
- Striiker

add in Cutter and that is three - one taken #5 overall.

I don't get it. I understand not wanting to make trades just to make trades and not wanting to trade players for pennies on the dollar. But there has to be an acknowledgement that this team right now is not bad enough to get a top 5 pick and not good enough to make the playoffs. And there also has to be an acknowledgement that teams are not trading 1Cs and 1Ds, not trading out of the top 5 in the draft and that free agency is not worth it given the age of the players and where this team is at. So the only viable option I see is drafting and developing. What am I missing?
- jd250

Being aggressive.

Not resigning TK would have been a start. You could have used that package and all your picks this year and next to start your foundation.

Sanheim is a good player, but is a foundation piece?

Is York someone your giving a 7 year 6-7 million deal too? Maybe he is better used at a piece to get a center

You can be aggressive smartly.

He did luck out on MM just like they lucked out w Zeev and decided to take the next 200 foot 3C in Jett.
- Flyfly

Absolutely he did. If his last name was Jones, he would have been take number 2 probably.

I don't get it. I understand not wanting to make trades just to make trades and not wanting to trade players for pennies on the dollar. But there has to be an acknowledgement that this team right now is not bad enough to get a top 5 pick and not good enough to make the playoffs. And there also has to be an acknowledgement that teams are not trading 1Cs and 1Ds, not trading out of the top 5 in the draft and that free agency is not worth it given the age of the players and where this team is at. So the only viable option I see is drafting and developing. What am I missing?
- jd250

A Flyers strength.

Absolutely he did. If his last name was Jones, he would have been take number 2 probably.
- J35Bacher

exactly... there was no master stroke of genius taking MM. None - full stop.

Lost me at “I’ve specialized in trade deadlines….”

Lost me at “I’ve specialized in trade deadlines….”


- Pairo11

Give him credit though - he at least spelled it correctly.

exactly... there was no master stroke of genius taking MM. None - full stop.
- Flyfly

Yet everyone would be here with Pitchforks if they picked MM and he either stayed in Russia or didnt want to play here. Just like they were with Hextall and Nolan Patrick. Nolan Patrick was a No Brainer too.

Danny's ability to do moves became evident at the Luchenko draft. He did'nt just pick Luchenko over Buium. He moved back, got a third and flipped that third with ours to move up to take Spencer Gil in the second. To me that showed great poise in asset management.
- flylerid

Chuck did the exact same thing back in 2019. Traded out of 11OA in 2019 to pick up a 2nd-rounder. He then traded that 2nd-rounder to move up to take Brink at 37OA.

In hindsight did that really turn out to be good asset management? Especially for a team that hasn't had much success finding impact players outside of the 1st-round?

Was losing the chance to draft Matt Boldy worth it? I'd rather have him today than both York and Brink.

So every GM would get two 1sts, a 2nd and two Cap Dumps for Provorov? Yea no. That was a really good return that GMs would struggle to find. It was a good move by Briere.

Did I list trading walker? I said He flipped a Cap dump for a 1st. Many here are quick to forget how they flocked here and said a 1st was a pipe dream, just like with Laughton. My point was WE DID get the 1st we wanted.

I love that people keep saying MM was a no brainer. He literally dropped to 7th to fall in our lap. Clearly there was risk to the pick for 5 other teams to pass on him. Chicago omitted because of Bedard

Clowns like you love to focus on just the negatives and do everything in their power to spin it as negative. I never once claimed. Briere has done everything right nor that hes an A+ GM but to say hes an F just shows how much of a clown you are. F is worst GM in the league, give me a break. Mike Milbury is an F, Hell even Fletcher is like a D. Briere hasnt been anywhere near as bad as those 2. Even if Briere did things he was expected to do that would be Mediocre not failure. You literally disregard everything that isnt amazing and focus on the things you dont like. Give your head a shake.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Here’s the difference. Fletcher and team stated retool so it’s at least kinda understandable what they did.

Db first started with rebuild narrative WITH this goal of elite talent…. Not only did he do NOTHING for rebuild he has done everything to keep this team mid.

And yet still continues to this day state need for elite talent etc etc etc


It’s not me that needs to shake my head. Look at the actions not the words. Are you even remotely satisfied with their moves? Or moves toward any path what so ever of these mythical stated goals of elite talent?


Their actions are clearly for 1 purpose only… to try to sell tickets and maximize profits for the now.

The funniest part is if they truly tried to rebuild the fans would be all in. And probably make more $ but they are so incompetent they can’t even see that

Everything they have done is to stay in the middle.
- J35Bacher

If you truly believe that then you probably need to shake your head

Chuck did the exact same thing back in 2019. Traded out of 11OA in 2019 to pick up a 2nd-rounder. He then traded that 2nd-rounder to move up to take Brink at 37OA.

In hindsight did that really turn out to be good asset management? Especially for a team that hasn't had much success finding impact players outside of the 1st-round?

Was losing the chance to draft Matt Boldy worth it? I'd rather have him today than both York and Brink.
- Tomahawk

Boldy and then passes on Caufield. 2 30 goal scorers. What good is trading down and then back up if either player is not as good as the guy you passed on? Is Luchanko+Gill better than just Buium? Hell, he could've stood pat got Buium and then traded back up for Luchanko if he was that high on the player. Of all the moves Briere has made, this one being talked about as a positive is absolutely wild.

Boldy and then passes on Caufield. 2 30 goal scorers. What good is trading down and then back up if either player is not as good as the guy you passed on? Is Luchanko+Gill better than Buium? Hell, he could've stood pat got Buium and then traded back up for Luchanko if he was that high on the player.
- TobyFlenderson

Made a great move traded the 24 Florida 1st for the Oilers 1st this year without getting anything else back. Amateur hour.

Do not recall in any sport seeing a current 1st traded for a future 1st with no other pic/player coming back.