Well those internet GM’s sure seem to be on quite a roll for the last few years…
- Cptmjl

We’ve been wrong on everything. We never saw these problems coming.

We’ve been wrong on everything. We never saw these problems coming.
- ses111

I am just looking forward to palmieri’s contract announcement. It could be two years at 2 million and it will still be atrocious. Such an avoidable misstep. Just like the Cizikas contract, Engvall, and Mayfield. Add Palmieri to that list. Three of the four could have resulted in a return of assets. Instead we resigned declining players. How did that turn out? Let’s do it again!

I am just looking forward to palmieri’s contract announcement. It could be two years at 2 million and it will still be atrocious. Such an avoidable misstep. Just like the Cizikas contract, Engvall, and Mayfield. Add Palmieri to that list. Three of the four could have resulted in a return of assets. Instead we resigned declining players. How did that turn out? Let’s do it again!
- Cptmjl

Malkin loves Lou because Lou does not want to re-tool. Why hire another GM with no loyalty to these players and wants to re-tool?

*Sorry to interrupt the Cpt and Tennille show but*

Ekblad suspended 20 games for enhancement substance.

My sense is that neither Lou nor Malkin are willing to sacrifice a season or two for a serious retool. Lou for personal reasons. Malkin for business reasons.
- JohnScammo

I would hope that Malkin has the business sense to understand that maintaining a middle of the road team in the hopes that fans will be dumb enough to say "well they're kind of in the playoff race, I better buy tickets to watch the push" every year will only hurt his pockets in the short and long run. If that's his line of thinking (or Lou's) then they have lost the forest for the trees on a grand scale.

The return for Nelson was fantastic, but not moving a single other player out in a strong seller's market was absolutely terrible. Whatever happens with Palmieri will be terrible now too. Lou either didn't move a guy that will walk away for nothing or will sign another aging vet to a contract that doesn't look bad on the surface but just continues to load them up with more aging vets on the back nine of their careers.

I would hope that Malkin has the business sense to understand that maintaining a middle of the road team in the hopes that fans will be dumb enough to say "well they're kind of in the playoff race, I better buy tickets to watch the push" every year will only hurt his pockets in the short and long run. If that's his line of thinking (or Lou's) then they have lost the forest for the trees on a grand scale.

The return for Nelson was fantastic, but not moving a single other player out in a strong seller's market was absolutely terrible. Whatever happens with Palmieri will be terrible now too. Lou either didn't move a guy that will walk away for nothing or will sign another aging vet to a contract that doesn't look bad on the surface but just continues to load them up with more aging vets on the back nine of their careers.
- eichiefs9

Wow I hope Malkin can get your number from somewhere. I’m sure he could use a HR guy to help him run his businesses.

I would hope that Malkin has the business sense to understand that maintaining a middle of the road team in the hopes that fans will be dumb enough to say "well they're kind of in the playoff race, I better buy tickets to watch the push" every year will only hurt his pockets in the short and long run. If that's his line of thinking (or Lou's) then they have lost the forest for the trees on a grand scale.

The return for Nelson was fantastic, but not moving a single other player out in a strong seller's market was absolutely terrible. Whatever happens with Palmieri will be terrible now too. Lou either didn't move a guy that will walk away for nothing or will sign another aging vet to a contract that doesn't look bad on the surface but just continues to load them up with more aging vets on the back nine of their careers.
- eichiefs9

Yes, I have previously stated (ad nauseam?), I would have traded Palmieri at the deadline, even if I only got a couple of draft picks in return. Further, my sense is that the owners don't know hockey, and rely heavily on Lou for advice. So if Lou says that Palms is not only terrific, but difficult to replace, then that's what the owners come to believe. Personally, while I like Palmieri, I do think he's a little slow, and at his age, he ain't getting faster.

Regarding Malkin and his business requirements, I have no idea about his cash flow needs. I can envisage a situation where Lou explained to him the fact that the draft is a crap shoot, and that a re-tool runs the risk of turning into a rebuild, which can take many more years than expected if your draft picks turn into busts. As a fan, I would take that chance, but then again.......it's not my money.

Yes, I have previously stated (ad nauseam?), I would have traded Palmieri at the deadline, even if I only got a couple of draft picks in return. Further, my sense is that the owners don't know hockey, and rely heavily on Lou for advice. So if Lou says that Palms is not only terrific, but difficult to replace, then that's what the owners come to believe. Personally, while I like Palmieri, I do think he's a little slow, and at his age, he ain't getting faster.

Regarding Malkin and his business requirements, I have no idea about his cash flow needs. I can envisage a situation where Lou explained to him the fact that the draft is a crap shoot, and that a re-tool runs the risk of turning into a rebuild, which can take many more years than expected if your draft picks turn into busts. As a fan, I would take that chance, but then again.......it's not my money.
- JohnScammo

I can appreciate wanting to keep a good locker room guy around, but with clearly nothing imminent with Palmieri I don't understand the rationale for hanging onto him. Yes, draft picks are undoubtedly a crapshoot but nobody is forcing management to actually make the picks. Had he traded a few more players he may have had enough capital to make some sort of marginally-impactful trade in the offseason or past that, depending on when the picks were.

Don't disagree that ownership probably relies entirely on Lou's knowledge for running the hockey ops, but at some point you have to question the mediocre results when you can see that team is old and the skill is low. It still feels like they need to make a front office change in the offseason because they're just spinning their tires at this point. I love the Nelson deal, but the inaction with any other players was pretty disappointing.

I can appreciate wanting to keep a good locker room guy around, but with clearly nothing imminent with Palmieri I don't understand the rationale for hanging onto him. Yes, draft picks are undoubtedly a crapshoot but nobody is forcing management to actually make the picks. Had he traded a few more players he may have had enough capital to make some sort of marginally-impactful trade in the offseason or past that, depending on when the picks were.

Don't disagree that ownership probably relies entirely on Lou's knowledge for running the hockey ops, but at some point you have to question the mediocre results when you can see that team is old and the skill is low. It still feels like they need to make a front office change in the offseason because they're just spinning their tires at this point. I love the Nelson deal, but the inaction with any other players was pretty disappointing.
- eichiefs9

Include me in the disappointed category. Happy to get the return on Nelson, but disappointed that there was no return on Palmieri. In fact, I posted that I would have traded EVERYONE who was due to become an UFA.........even DeAngelo who has been a pleasant surprise. I like having lots of draft picks, because it improves your odds of finding a hidden gem.

The one sign that may be a positive is that Malkin apparently accompanied Lou on this West Coast trip. Malkin doesn't usually get involved, unless something is brewing.

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Looks like Mayfield will be a healthy scratch for the fifth time in the last eight games. That doesn't include the game where he was the 7th D-man vs. NYR (4-0 L).

He played vs. ANA with Boqvist centering the fourth line in MacLean's absence (illness). #Isles

Include me in the disappointed category. Happy to get the return on Nelson, but disappointed that there was no return on Palmieri. In fact, I posted that I would have traded EVERYONE who was due to become an UFA.........even DeAngelo who has been a pleasant surprise. I like having lots of draft picks, because it improves your odds of finding a hidden gem.

The one sign that may be a positive is that Malkin apparently accompanied Lou on this West Coast trip. Malkin doesn't usually get involved, unless something is brewing.
- JohnScammo

As much as I agree with you that I would probably trade every pending UFA (and on pretty much all of your post), I understand that the reality is that they still need to ice a team that at least has the appearance of being competitive. I know they couldn't have traded Palmieri/Pageau/Lee/Deangelo/Boqvist/whoever all on the same day. But Palmieri definitely should have been traded and maybe another one or two of those guys if the returns were worthy. I feel like they could have cashed in big on Lee if they retained some salary. I hope he has another strong year next year because I'm not sure that his value will ever get higher than it is now at this point in his career.

As much as I agree with you that I would probably trade every pending UFA (and on pretty much all of your post), I understand that the reality is that they still need to ice a team that at least has the appearance of being competitive. I know they couldn't have traded Palmieri/Pageau/Lee/Deangelo/Boqvist/whoever all on the same day. But Palmieri definitely should have been traded and maybe another one or two of those guys if the returns were worthy. I feel like they could have cashed in big on Lee if they retained some salary. I hope he has another strong year next year because I'm not sure that his value will ever get higher than it is now at this point in his career.
- eichiefs9

Lee and Pageau were not on my list to be traded, simply because they weren't UFAs at the end of this season. But at this point, I think we're just .............

I would hope that Malkin has the business sense to understand that maintaining a middle of the road team in the hopes that fans will be dumb enough to say "well they're kind of in the playoff race, I better buy tickets to watch the push" every year will only hurt his pockets in the short and long run. If that's his line of thinking (or Lou's) then they have lost the forest for the trees on a grand scale.

The return for Nelson was fantastic, but not moving a single other player out in a strong seller's market was absolutely terrible. Whatever happens with Palmieri will be terrible now too. Lou either didn't move a guy that will walk away for nothing or will sign another aging vet to a contract that doesn't look bad on the surface but just continues to load them up with more aging vets on the back nine of their careers.
- eichiefs9

This is it in a nutshell.

Lee and Pageau were not on my list to be traded, simply because they weren't UFAs at the end of this season. But at this point, I think we're just .............

- JohnScammo

I'm just tenderizing the meat to make burgers later on

Sorry, yeah those two didn't apply to what you said. I felt that they could've and maybe should've moved one of them if the return was good and that thought bled into my response to your post.

Rumor: Dahlin met with Sabres GM and threatened to leave the team!

Send Dober and whatever it takes and bring Dahlin here.

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Give Roy a season with a healthy roster. The man games lost of the high-quality players were never really replaced. I do not think Roy is the problem here. Also, let him pick his own coaches and then we can decide if Roy is not right for the job.

Lee and Pageau were not on my list to be traded, simply because they weren't UFAs at the end of this season. But at this point, I think we're just .............

- JohnScammo

I haven’t discussed this yet today so I reserve the right to speak about why Palmieri should’ve been traded.

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Give Roy a season with a healthy roster. The man games lost of the high-quality players were never really replaced. I do not think Roy is the problem here. Also, let him pick his own coaches and then we can decide if Roy is not right for the job.
- Nfdbulldawg

I don’t think Roy is the problem but I’m not sure if he’s the answer either. I say this believing there isn’t a coach who can do a heck of a lot with this roster. BUT I’m not so sure about Roy. I am not as enamored with him as some .

I'm just tenderizing the meat to make burgers later on

Sorry, yeah those two didn't apply to what you said. I felt that they could've and maybe should've moved one of them if the return was good and that thought bled into my response to your post.
- eichiefs9

I was looking for something else, but I had to post this, just because I've never seen a dog get angry at a cabbage.

I haven’t discussed this yet today so I reserve the right to speak about why Palmieri should’ve been traded.
- Cptmjl

First, we will need to see your official HB internet GM credentials.

I would hope that Malkin has the business sense to understand that maintaining a middle of the road team in the hopes that fans will be dumb enough to say "well they're kind of in the playoff race, I better buy tickets to watch the push" every year will only hurt his pockets in the short and long run. If that's his line of thinking (or Lou's) then they have lost the forest for the trees on a grand scale.

The return for Nelson was fantastic, but not moving a single other player out in a strong seller's market was absolutely terrible. Whatever happens with Palmieri will be terrible now too. Lou either didn't move a guy that will walk away for nothing or will sign another aging vet to a contract that doesn't look bad on the surface but just continues to load them up with more aging vets on the back nine of their careers.
- eichiefs9

Agreed. It was a missed opurtunity.

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Give Roy a season with a healthy roster. The man games lost of the high-quality players were never really replaced. I do not think Roy is the problem here. Also, let him pick his own coaches and then we can decide if Roy is not right for the job.
- Nfdbulldawg

Lou should not get to hire another coach. Let's see some real roster change before another coach takes the fall. Hire a new GM and the new GM can pick the coach.