The Fan Blog : Ek on Flyers… Flyers won more than the deadline. Gameday, vs Seattle
- the_fan_blog

Comcast put you on the payroll too?

At least we are probably getting what we’ve all been hoping for… a really good top 5-7 pick in this years draft. Maybe even a little bit of good luck with the lottery. Tankathon Mock draft had the Flyers getting:

Anton Frondell
Blake Fiddler
Braeden Cootes

I don’t know much about these draft eligible players. Is that good?
- mikeyo27

I mean whatever center they draft in the first is gonna come in and be our top center prospect right away. If they manage to get 2 or 3 in the 1st round even better. They are in dire need of it.


Frondell seems like a fine choice if he’s best available when the Flyers own pick comes up.

Assuming that they don’t win a lotto pick I kind of feel like the Flyers will have their eyes on Frondell or McQueen. Hagens is a college kid (so I’m sure they want no part of that) and Desnoyers, O’Brien & Bear probably still need to put on some weight before making the jump. Frondell has 20 pounds on any of those top center prospects not named McQueen (mostly because that (frank)er is 6’5”)

I don’t know much about Blake Fiddler other than he’s Vernon’s kid and a big, right handed D man.

Not bad either. You forget both players have severely underproduced and struggled. Plus one has a 5 mill cap hit which we cleared completely.

No one is claiming its a homerun deal. There are still a chance one of the two players turns it around. So far its been more or less the same for them in CGY. Its a fair deal. Everyone was claiming these guys sucked and should be traded but somehow expected a prime return. It really says something when teams are more interested in Laughton. How many teams kick tires on Frost/Farabee?
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Farabee has 5 points this year. Flyers got good value for him. Frost was probably going to ask for 5+ million a yr in his next contract. No thanks.

I am neither upset or really happy about the return. I didn't expect much for them.

How is he not a rookie? Lol This season is the first he has played 25 games in a season.....

Maybe because 40 points is not good enough for a 2nd line C at 25 years old? 26 years old is a typical forwards peak. Frost is 25, turns 26 in may
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

He has played parts of 3 seasons in the NHL. Drafted in 2019. Stop with the rookie angle. What Pelletier is right now is a 1st rd bust who has already been put on waivers (which is even funnier seeing the Flyers trade for him since could have had for free). Hopefully they let him walk as he offers nothing that I can. Maybe if the dim wit coach put him with some skill players they would/could get a better idea.

You like the Flyers expected too much from a player who was a late 1st rd pick. Where he was picked, he was a good pick. Him being a 3rd line center is perfectly fine. Funny how Legend Laughton was picked higher, yet no one bats eyelash when talking about his prodcution (Frost has a higher PPG). Or lack thereof. Many say he was a good pick.

Again I ask you how is Frost a reclamation project?

Not bad either. You forget both players have severely underproduced and struggled. Plus one has a 5 mill cap hit which we cleared completely.

No one is claiming its a homerun deal. There are still a chance one of the two players turns it around. So far its been more or less the same for them in CGY. Its a fair deal. Everyone was claiming these guys sucked and should be traded but somehow expected a prime return. It really says something when teams are more interested in Laughton. How many teams kick tires on Frost/Farabee?
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Seems to me either one of those guys is more valuable than Pelletier. The draft picks are meh. Guess it was just about getting rid of Farabees cap hit

All tolled I think they got Jakob Pelletier, a 2025 second-round pick, a 2028 seventh-round pick, and a 2027 third-rounder (from LA for Kuzmenko) for Frost and Farabee. Not great.
- Dkos

Didn't they also include a 7th round pick to LA in that Kuzememko deal?

If you look around the league. The status quo is being in the mushy middle. There are teams worse off than the flyers. It’s frustrating because it’s been so long. But they are staring at a bottom 6 finish and they’re flush with picks this spring. Facts are facts

He has played parts of 3 seasons in the NHL. Drafted in 2019. Stop with the rookie angle. What Pelletier is right now is a 1st rd bust who has already been put on waivers (which is even funnier seeing the Flyers trade for him since could have had for free). Hopefully they let him walk as he offers nothing that I can. Maybe if the dim wit coach put him with some skill players they would/could get a better idea.

You like the Flyers expected too much from a player who was a late 1st rd pick. Where he was picked, he was a good pick. Him being a 3rd line center is perfectly fine. Funny how Legend Laughton was picked higher, yet no one bats eyelash when talking about his prodcution (Frost has a higher PPG). Or lack thereof. Many say he was a good pick.

Again I ask you how is Frost a reclamation project?
- Striiker

I never said frost is a reclamation project. He is an average 3rd line center. I am happy he is gone

I have been calling for Laughton to be traded for the past 5 to 7 years. I am no fan of his. I had a stroke when I saw him go for a first.

Frost and farabe needed to go. Is frost worth 5 plus million. Nope.

I never said frost is a reclamation project. He is an average 3rd line center. I am happy he is gone

I have been calling for Laughton to be traded for the past 5 to 7 years. I am no fan of his. I had a stroke when I saw him go for a first.

Frost and farabe needed to go. Is frost worth 5 plus million. Nope.
- WhiskeyMan

No problem at all moving away from Frost and Farabee. Return wasn’t great but that is the value of salary cap space. Also agreed Laughton was moved two years too late. They are making the same mistake with Risto. Would also not have extended Konecny as you can see he is going down the Marchand path. His extension hasn’t even kicked in yet.

DB needs to be more aggressive and proactive. The hiring of Tortorella did him no favors.

Didn't they also include a 7th round pick to LA in that Kuzememko deal?
- Striiker

Yea, but I didn’t think it was the one they got from the Frost/Farabee deal.

Yea, but I didn’t think it was the one they got from the Frost/Farabee deal.
- Dkos

Does it matter as one came in one out. Evens out in the end.

A 2nd and 3rd for Frost and Farabee.

If you look around the league. The status quo is being in the mushy middle. There are teams worse off than the flyers. It’s frustrating because it’s been so long. But they are staring at a bottom 6 finish and they’re flush with picks this spring. Facts are facts
- Just5

Yeah, they can probably make a real run at trading up for Misa assuming they don’t win the draft lotto.

Misa isn’t a generational talent or anything but he is exactly what we need and all the skill is there.

I’m not even really looking at wingers or D in the top 15 this year because we all know they’re going center. I have to say the one player that worries me a bit is McQueen. On the plus side he is 6’5” but doesn’t seem to rely on his size for his production(which was Nolan Patrick’s entire game in junior and why he failed in the NHL imo). That said, to me there is just something off about his play. He’s a center but it’s almost like he plays it like it’s a wing spot getting into the zone and waiting to be set up. I just don’t see a lot of playmaking in his reels. Kid has a nice shot for sure but he just doesn’t seem like a typical center to me.

No problem at all moving away from Frost and Farabee. Return wasn’t great but that is the value of salary cap space. Also agreed Laughton was moved two years too late. They are making the same mistake with Risto. Would also not have extended Konecny as you can see he is going down the Marchand path. His extension hasn’t even kicked in yet.

DB needs to be more aggressive and proactive. The hiring of Tortorella did him no favors.
- StepfordSam

I think RRs contract is an issue. i think if he has a another decent season like he had this season, he will get moved next season but they will have to eat salary.

Yeah, they can probably make a real run at trading up for Misa assuming they don’t win the draft lotto.

Misa isn’t a generational talent or anything but he is exactly what we need and all the skill is there.

I’m not even really looking at wingers or D in the top 15 this year because we all know they’re going center. I have to say the one player that worries me a bit is McQueen. On the plus side he is 6’5” but doesn’t seem to rely on his size for his production(which was Nolan Patrick’s entire game in junior and why he failed in the NHL imo). That said, to me there just something off about his play. He’s a center but it’s almost like he plays it like it’s a wing spot getting into the zone and waiting to be set up. I just don’t see a lot of playmaking in his reels. Kid has a nice shot for sure but he just doesn’t seem like a typical center to me.
- hereticpride

Big center. Flyers are salivating.

increase ticket prices. Build a new arena for losers. I don't know who is dumber, management of the fans for actually paying.

Torts consistently trashes players and tries to turn the fan base against those he doesn't like. "I don't know what frosty was doing there"
"Drysdale doesn't know how to play the game" (pathetic)
don't fall in love with players, but we'll push their jerseys on your back. It's a business.
Fans should approach it that way as well.

Seems to me either one of those guys is more valuable than Pelletier. The draft picks are meh. Guess it was just about getting rid of Farabees cap hit
- Dkos

Briere stated that was the biggest part of the return. The cap space

he probably needs to learn how to play the game the right way. Still waiting on the coaching staff to teach the right way.

I think RRs contract is an issue. i think if he has a another decent season like he had this season, he will get moved next season but they will have to eat salary.
- WhiskeyMan

Yes. Flyers must know that. Admirable I suppose that they turned him into a somewhat useful player but that type of dman at that contract isn’t what the league is about right now.

No problem at all moving away from Frost and Farabee. Return wasn’t great but that is the value of salary cap space. Also agreed Laughton was moved two years too late. They are making the same mistake with Risto. Would also not have extended Konecny as you can see he is going down the Marchand path. His extension hasn’t even kicked in yet.

DB needs to be more aggressive and proactive. The hiring of Tortorella did him no favors.
- StepfordSam

The risto thing is different, I want him traded as well, but don't want to retain, because say you retain 50% then you still need to replace him. So no real saving. Better to wait and hopefully he has another solid year and we can trade him with zero retention or trade him in the upcoming draft

Big center. Flyers are salivating.
- Striiker

To be fair he has 34 assists thru 64 games this year. On top of 29 goals.

Something just looks off though. If he’s gonna be a center I don’t see a lot of passing/playmaking in the offensive zone.

There is no moving up!!!!
Teams do not trade out of the first 5 spots.
Only way this happens is if we get lucky with the ping pong balls.

I mean whatever center they draft in the first is gonna come in and be our top center prospect right away. If they manage to get 2 or 3 in the 1st round even better. They are in dire need of it.


Frondell seems like a fine choice if he’s best available when the Flyers own pick comes up.

Assuming that they don’t win a lotto pick I kind of feel like the Flyers will have their eyes on Frondell or McQueen. Hagens is a college kid (so I’m sure they want no part of that) and Desnoyers, O’Brien & Bear probably still need to put on some weight before making the jump. Frondell has 20 pounds on any of those top center prospects not named McQueen (mostly because that (frank)er is 6’5”)

I don’t know much about Blake Fiddler other than he’s Vernon’s kid and a big, right handed D man.
- hereticpride

Thank you for the insight. It seems like there’s actually something to get excited about.

Thank you for the insight. It seems like there’s actually something to get excited about.
- mikeyo27

Yeah I mean so long as they don’t go on some unprecedented run here there should certainly be a decent center for them to take.

I’m up in the air with what I want them to do with their other two 1st’s. BPA always makes sense but given that they have so many 2nd rounders this year this might be a good time for them to package some picks together and move up. I’m not really sure what the difference between drafting 23rd and say 10-13 is yet with this draft.

There’s a new blob.

He has played parts of 3 seasons in the NHL. Drafted in 2019. Stop with the rookie angle. What Pelletier is right now is a 1st rd bust who has already been put on waivers (which is even funnier seeing the Flyers trade for him since could have had for free). Hopefully they let him walk as he offers nothing that I can. Maybe if the dim wit coach put him with some skill players they would/could get a better idea.

You like the Flyers expected too much from a player who was a late 1st rd pick. Where he was picked, he was a good pick. Him being a 3rd line center is perfectly fine. Funny how Legend Laughton was picked higher, yet no one bats eyelash when talking about his prodcution (Frost has a higher PPG). Or lack thereof. Many say he was a good pick.

Again I ask you how is Frost a reclamation project?
- Striiker

Do yourself a favor and look up the NHL definition of a Rookie. Ill give you a hint. A season in the NHL is not counted if you play under 25 games. Hence why Stankoven is also eligible for the Calder despite being 22 and having played 24 games last season. Do not mistake Rookie for development. The ceiling for Pelletier is likely low at this point. Hence why he is a reclamation project. Again Flames didnt add Frost to be a 3rd line C. They are hoping they can get him to the potential he failed to reach here aka 2nd line C which would be around 60 points. Frost is a reclamation project