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xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Yesterday @ 2:29 PM ET
Who is going to center Marner? With the lack of C talent on this team you would be paying in excess of 12.5M a year for a 55-65 point player
- corduroy


1) Marner is an elite player. He will be more than a 50-60 point player even without a C. Konecny is likely going to hit 70 points and Marner is a lot better than him

2) A C would be acquired by moving others or by drafting with the acquired picks.

Flyers will not tank. Comcast is always going to want bums in seats and people are not going to show up to watch their team get dusted every night. Its already been mentioned attendance is down and this is with a team thats lost a lot of 1 goal games. How do you think it will be if we are Chicago or San Jose bad.

Dont even bother thinking about Tanking. Comcast will not let it happen.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Yesterday @ 2:34 PM ET
5 of the Flyers’ top 6 scorers are natural right wingers:

Konecny
Michkov
Tippett
Forester
Brink

Couturier the lone outlier.

- Quetzalcoatl


Konecny often switches sides
Tippetts been playing LW all season
Foersters been left wing all season

Wingers are often interchangeable. Theres some adjustment but its nowhere near as different as going from Wing to C or reverse. Many Wingers play both sides in the NHL. Nichushkin on COL is on RW now but hes played the LW for most his time in COL
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Yesterday @ 2:34 PM ET
1) Marner is an elite player. He will be more than a 50-60 point player even without a C. Konecny is likely going to hit 70 points and Marner is a lot better than him

2) A C would be acquired by moving others or by drafting with the acquired picks.

Flyers will not tank. Comcast is always going to want bums in seats and people are not going to show up to watch their team get dusted every night. Its already been mentioned attendance is down and this is with a team thats lost a lot of 1 goal games. How do you think it will be if we are Chicago or San Jose bad.

Dont even bother thinking about Tanking. Comcast will not let it happen.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx

They are going to do something stupid so what’s the least amount of stupid they can do. Bennett likely won’t stay healthy or be productive his entire contract. Neither will any defenseman they get. At least with Marner he could actually be useful like Giroux into his mid 30’s. It will require shuffling some of the roster but that’s more desirable than watching 34 year Bennett skating around like 32 year Couturier currently is doing.

All of this is moot since Marner isn’t picking the Flyers over everybody else.
Quetzalcoatl
Location: Buffalo Sabres / Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 12.02.2009

Yesterday @ 2:40 PM ET
Konecny often switches sides
Tippetts been playing LW all season
Foersters been left wing all season

Wingers are often interchangeable. Theres some adjustment but its nowhere near as different as going from Wing to C or reverse. Many Wingers play both sides in the NHL. Nichushkin on COL is on RW now but hes played the LW for most his time in COL

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Hence why I said “natural” right wingers. But, just because a player CAN play a different position doesn’t mean they’re as effective when they do it. Neither Tippett nor Foerster have played as well as expected this season.
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Yesterday @ 2:53 PM ET
Hence why I said “natural” right wingers. But, just because a player CAN play a different position doesn’t mean they’re as effective when they do it. Neither Tippett nor Foerster have played as well as expected this season.
- Quetzalcoatl

I think those players are just overrated and are performing to what they are more so than it’s because they are on their off wing.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Yesterday @ 2:58 PM ET
Hence why I said “natural” right wingers. But, just because a player CAN play a different position doesn’t mean they’re as effective when they do it. Neither Tippett nor Foerster have played as well as expected this season.
- Quetzalcoatl


Huh? Foerster has 16 goals and 30 points in 64 games. Thats 3 points back of last years total for 77 games.
Quetzalcoatl
Location: Buffalo Sabres / Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 12.02.2009

Yesterday @ 3:04 PM ET
Huh? Foerster has 16 goals and 30 points in 64 games. Thats 3 points back of last years total for 77 games.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx



So, you expected Foerster to be at less than 0.5 points per game? Thats interesting. I expected more growth than going from .43 ppg to .47 ppg.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Yesterday @ 3:10 PM ET
I think those players are just overrated and are performing to what they are more so than it’s because they are on their off wing.
- psuhockey


I think Foerster would benefit from a more offensively gifted set of linemates. Tippett would as well.

I would pair Foerster and TK next year.
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Yesterday @ 3:18 PM ET
I think Foerster would benefit from a more offensively gifted set of linemates. Tippett would as well.

I would pair Foerster and TK next year.

- mickel25

I just don’t know if he’s dynamic enough to be a top scorer in the NHL.

If they keep that line together, I would imagine they have Barkey penciled in to replace Brink. It will be interesting to see if he could elevate the other two as he appears a bit more faster than Brink.
Wingdestroyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.27.2020

Yesterday @ 3:38 PM ET
I just don’t know if he’s dynamic enough to be a top scorer in the NHL.

If they keep that line together, I would imagine they have Barkey penciled in to replace Brink. It will be interesting to see if he could elevate the other two as he appears a bit more faster than Brink.

- psuhockey


i agree, the guy is a middle six secondary scoring option that would benefit from a better power play (remember when that was an actual thing?).

and that's totally fine! it's actually awesome that his 2 way game translates so well because it does make him the PERFECT forward for a 3rd line on a potential cup contending team.

Barkey does nothing for me at all...nor does Brink TBH. but I do think they could be enticing, along with some of these extra first round picks in the next couple years, for other teams? Wouldn't be surprised if Brink/York/Barkey/Andrea are leveraged with draft capital to try and get a center or another piece.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Yesterday @ 4:02 PM ET
I think Foerster would benefit from a more offensively gifted set of linemates. Tippett would as well.

I would pair Foerster and TK next year.

- mickel25

Man all these wingers would be a lot better if we actually had any center depth whatsoever.

I still think they need to get out of the TK deal before it’s too late tho. Get picks for him and get better centers for Michkov and company. Push Jett down on depth chart by getting two blue chip center prospects in here and suddenly this forward group looks very nice.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Yesterday @ 4:16 PM ET
I just don’t know if he’s dynamic enough to be a top scorer in the NHL.

If they keep that line together, I would imagine they have Barkey penciled in to replace Brink. It will be interesting to see if he could elevate the other two as he appears a bit more faster than Brink.

- psuhockey



IMO Barkey is going to need at least a few seasons in the AHL to get stronger to make up for his lack of size.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Yesterday @ 6:44 PM ET
IMO Barkey is going to need at least a few seasons in the AHL to get stronger to make up for his lack of size.
- MBFlyerfan


Aa long as Alex Bump gets signed, good chance we see him quickly next season. The team needs LWs with some size and skill.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Yesterday @ 7:07 PM ET
Just read York did not know why he was scratched. No communication from the HC, apparently. I'm shocked by the apparent lack of communication from the HC who preaches accountability.
Dkos
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Yesterday @ 7:10 PM ET
Good start 😳
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Yesterday @ 7:12 PM ET
Good start 😳
- Dkos


Yeah. Looks to me like they’ve completely given up. Unwatchable right now. Really hope they decide to can torts after this season. They’ve clearly given up on him
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Yesterday @ 7:15 PM ET
I agree except for the can’t afford part of it. If the Flyers get a center in the top 10 this year, then they have an avenue to have cheap centers for pretty much Marners entire contract. ELC plus bridge is a minimum of 5 years and as many as 6. That’s for Luchanko and whoever else they draft this year. The rise in the salary cap would also offset any Michkov deal. To make it work they would have to move Tippett but that’s a no brainer if they add Marner.
- psuhockey


That’s a good point. And if they could move Tippett, that would free up enough money to cover those contracts.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Yesterday @ 7:20 PM ET
Just read York did not know why he was scratched. No communication from the HC, apparently. I'm shocked by the apparent lack of communication from the HC who preaches accountability.
- Trox88


Torts has streets named after him… “One Way”

Accountability doesn’t apply to himself or his staff. He treats his players like children and he’s the petulant father who’s never wrong. “Because I said so”.

Wingdestroyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.27.2020

Yesterday @ 7:21 PM ET
Yeah. Looks to me like they’ve completely given up. Unwatchable right now. Really hope they decide to can torts after this season. They’ve clearly given up on him
- Hextall271


while I have given Briere and Jones some grace after this deadline, I think my new benchmark is getting Torts OUT OF PHILLY. Like, legit out of here...no upper office job. please be fired and get out
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Yesterday @ 7:22 PM ET
Yeah. Looks to me like they’ve completely given up. Unwatchable right now. Really hope they decide to can torts after this season. They’ve clearly given up on him
- Hextall271


If/when the Flyers crash and burn to finish another season under Torts, I find it hard to believe they will extend him or bring him back as a lame duck. 3 years at the circus is enough. He put the footers or laid the foundation, whatever he wants to cling onto to describe his career with the Flyers, but it is just time.
Dkos
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Yesterday @ 7:29 PM ET
Pretty sure Giroux would still be the best player in this team.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Yesterday @ 7:29 PM ET
It makes no sense to me why they have Michkov on the left wall and TK on the right wall. It basically takes them both out of shooting position with having to waste time to turn to shoot. Its totally a pass first circle jerk.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Yesterday @ 7:32 PM ET
It makes no sense to me why they have Michkov on the left wall and TK on the right wall. It basically takes them both out of shooting position with having to waste time to turn to shoot. Its totally a pass first circle jerk.
- MBFlyerfan


Torts commented the reason the PP struggles because there is no QB. interesting, apparently CLB had no QB either because there PP was bad under him. Seth Jones and Werenski just not good enough.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Yesterday @ 7:34 PM ET
Torts commented the reason the PP struggles because there is no QB. interesting, apparently CLB had no QB either because there PP was bad under him. Seth Jones and Werenski just not good enough.
- Trox88



No point in having a PP QB if you have no discernable plan.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Yesterday @ 7:38 PM ET
Pretty sure Giroux would still be the best player in this team.
- Dkos

He is a free agent this offseason…

You know the Flyers PR team is already suggesting that to drive ticket sales.
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