wbon22
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Location: Cherry Hill, NJ Joined: 02.21.2008
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Yes, the goaltending is a bit disgusting.
Ersson is a decent 1B. He gets fatigued, not physically but mentaly, too easily it seems.
Fedotov is a respectable number 2.
Kolosov needs to get his head on straight.
I think between them they can hold the fort for another season or two while the other issues are dealt with, but none of them appear to be a real dominant number 1, or even Carter Hart level. |
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psuhockey
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They are not tanking. They are showing their true colors that they are not a good team.
They are where they are at because of incompetence. Don’t see them trying to not improve big time this off season. If they fail once again it will not be by design. - furio16
Doesn’t matter whether on purpose or by accident if they get the players they need. I don’t think Briere is great or incompetent, he’s just mid and mid’s enough with the right players. |
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No need to worry about it go with the same tandem. They are yrs away from even being competitive no less a legit contender. Maybe draft one in 3rd round or so or pick up a young cheap one to try and develop with what they have now |
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Trox88
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Doesn’t matter whether on purpose or by accident if they get the players they need. I don’t think Briere is great or incompetent, he’s just mid and mid’s enough with the right players. - psuhockey
It will be funny if they end up drafting Hagens, who to start the year was the consensus #1 overall pick. The path to acquire Hagens coupled with his freshman year at BC no one could have predicted. I can see it very possible Hagens makes it #5. There always seems to be a surprise entry into the top 5 each draft, causing a consensus pick to drop. Hagens is going to get the Shane Wright treatment, IMO. Flyers were so close in that draft to capitalizing. Just keep losing.
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psuhockey
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It will be funny if they end up drafting Hagens, who to start the year was the consensus #1 overall pick. The path to acquire Hagens coupled with his freshman year at BC no one could have predicted. I can see it very possible Hagens makes it #5. There always seems to be a surprise entry into the top 5 each draft, causing a consensus pick to drop. Hagens is going to get the Shane Wright treatment, IMO. Flyers were so close in that draft to capitalizing. Just keep losing. - Trox88
I think Hagens is going to fall too. I think someone will pick Frondell over him. |
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corduroy
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Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT Joined: 12.09.2006
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Funny about the draft from their own scout after they hyped it up as franchise changing.
I am torn on what to do with the goaltender next season. It is beyond bad and needs to be addressed. One reason being it isn’t fair to those other players to have such poor goaltending. Other hand is yes better for a higher pick. Had the Flyers taken a more proper approach they wouldn’t need to necessarily get that higher pick in 26. - furio16
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Trox88
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I think Hagens is going to fall too. I think someone will pick Frondell over him. - psuhockey
I agree. I think it is very possible to see Frondell elevate in the draft similar to Leo Carlsson. I would be absolutely thrilled if the Flyers would end up with James Hagens. |
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meduser
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Location: BC Joined: 06.23.2012
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Fedotov does not keep his stick on the ice. I noticed this at once with him and knew it was going to lead to goals against. Have seen it frequently in recent games. Stick on the ICE! - backfire
He seems to lose his stick a lot too. |
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WhiskeyMan
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Location: PA Joined: 04.27.2018
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Funny about the draft from their own scout after they hyped it up as franchise changing.
I am torn on what to do with the goaltender next season. It is beyond bad and needs to be addressed. One reason being it isn’t fair to those other players to have such poor goaltending. Other hand is yes better for a higher pick. Had the Flyers taken a more proper approach they wouldn’t need to necessarily get that higher pick in 26. - furio16
Funny how people forget they wouldn't be in this goalie position if Hart and friends didn't do what they did.
The real mistake is giving up on Stolarz.
Since drafting Stolarz in 2012, they drafted 11 goalies. Most notably are Fedotov, Tomek, Sandstrom, Hart, Errson, Kolosov, Zavragin and Bjarnason.
5 of those 8 have played in the NHL. Fedotovs career started late because of Russia, Harts career was cut short because of what he did.
Sandstrom and Errson were both good goalies in their leagues. Kolosov as well.
You can't expect every goalie to hit. We can just hope Zavragin and Bjaranson are hits and not misses.
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Funny how people forget they wouldn't be in this goalie position if Hart and friends didn't do what they did.
The real mistake is giving up on Stolarz.
Since drafting Stolarz in 2012, they drafted 11 goalies. Most notably are Fedotov, Tomek, Sandstrom, Hart, Errson, Kolosov, Zavragin and Bjarnason.
5 of those 8 have played in the NHL. Fedotovs career started late because of Russia, Harts career was cut short because of what he did.
Sandstrom and Errson were both good goalies in their leagues. Kolosov as well.
You can't expect every goalie to hit. We can just hope Zavragin and Bjaranson are hits and not misses. - WhiskeyMan
Allegedly did. You should be almost certain it didn’t happen simply from the fact it was a flyers player. Flyers luck right there. Player taken away and was innocent. Seems flyers normal |
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mikeyo27
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Location: NJ Joined: 01.18.2014
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A new coach should be priority number 1. Period.
Then let the new coach have input in to what direction the the team should take. Fire Torts now, hire Carle, let him get a few games in with these players and go from there.
But a goalie is the least of this team’s worries. They need top-elite talent down the middle and for a first pairing before they worry about a goalie.
Rebuilding? Why then with no elite talent on the ice do they need a goalie to keep them as a bubble team. Either get a top pick in 2026 or make the playoffs and play well. No more of this in between crap. |
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WhiskeyMan
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Location: PA Joined: 04.27.2018
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A new coach should be priority number 1. Period.
Then let the new coach have input in to what direction the the team should take. Fire Torts now, hire Carle, let him get a few games in with these players and go from there.
But a goalie is the least of this team’s worries. They need top-elite talent down the middle and for a first pairing before they worry about a goalie.
Rebuilding? Why then with no elite talent on the ice do they need a goalie to keep them as a bubble team. Either get a top pick in 2026 or make the playoffs and play well. No more of this in between crap. - mikeyo27
Agreed, I think after the end of the season we will see a coaching change
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BiggE
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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Hard to worry much about the goaltending when the organization is being run by a Bullies fanboy, a cheerleading former broadcaster, a woefully inexperienced GM and a dinosaur head coach.
But, if we must, none of the current 3 fill me with any confidence whatsoever. They might have a future starter in Zavragin but he’s 3 years away from coming over and probably more like 5 years away from hitting his prime. That being said, just roll with Ersson & Fedotov next season, this team needs elite talent in the worst way and having those 2 in net significantly ups their chances of drafting said talent. |
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MBFlyerfan
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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I have some concern with Sam Ersson being labeled the number one moving forward.
Is he a number one permanently, or is he a number one for now?
IMO he is the #1 for now. The Flyers should just ride out his contract for the time being and concentrate on filling more important holes, such as 1C, 2C, 1D.
Are Fedotov or Kolosov the goalies that can lead you to the promised land?NO, And even thinking about the promised land at this point is counterproductive. They are nowhere near the promised land.
Is someone in the system going to take over? Perhaps Zavragin or Bjarnason can be that guy in 3-5 years. If not, you cross that bridge when it's time to cross.
Or do the Flyers need to prioritize getting the starter this summer?
No, they need to prioritize drafting top line forwards and top pair defensemen. They are nowhere near a contender and spending big bucks on a goalie is just a waste of contract time and money. |
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furio16
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Location: Moscow, ID Joined: 06.07.2007
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Funny how people forget they wouldn't be in this goalie position if Hart and friends didn't do what they did.
The real mistake is giving up on Stolarz.
Since drafting Stolarz in 2012, they drafted 11 goalies. Most notably are Fedotov, Tomek, Sandstrom, Hart, Errson, Kolosov, Zavragin and Bjarnason.
5 of those 8 have played in the NHL. Fedotovs career started late because of Russia, Harts career was cut short because of what he did.
Sandstrom and Errson were both good goalies in their leagues. Kolosov as well.
You can't expect every goalie to hit. We can just hope Zavragin and Bjaranson are hits and not misses. - WhiskeyMan
All Harts fault. Typical Flyers fan defending the orgin-eye-zation. Maybe the flyers should have done their due diligence. Once he is acquitted, they can bring him back. Not like this organization hasn’t employed proven criminals in the past.
All those goalies you mention are slop or haven’t even arrived yet. Maybe Tomek is a late bloomer. No issue moving Stolarz when they did.
No one is asking for them all to hit. What is your version of “hitting” on a goalie?.
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dramado
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Location: Paradise, NF Joined: 03.16.2018
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All Harts fault. Typical Flyers fan defending the orgin-eye-zation. Maybe the flyers should have done their due diligence. Once he is acquitted, they can bring him back. Not like this organization hasn’t employed proven criminals in the past.
All those goalies you mention are slop or haven’t even arrived yet. Maybe Tomek is a late bloomer. No issue moving Stolarz when they did.
No one is asking for them all to hit. What is your version of “hitting” on a goalie?. - furio16
Do you know what acquitted means? If he's acquitted, the law considers him not guilty. Why compare him to "proven criminals" in that scenario? Maybe he did it, maybe he didn't. Let the law figure it out, and then move on.
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MBFlyerfan
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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All Harts fault. Typical Flyers fan defending the orgin-eye-zation. Maybe the flyers should have done their due diligence. Once he is acquitted, they can bring him back. Not like this organization hasn’t employed proven criminals in the past.
All those goalies you mention are slop or haven’t even arrived yet. Maybe Tomek is a late bloomer. No issue moving Stolarz when they did.
No one is asking for them all to hit. What is your version of “hitting” on a goalie?. - furio16
So if he is acquitted, how does that make him a proven criminal?
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meduser
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Location: BC Joined: 06.23.2012
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Funny how people forget they wouldn't be in this goalie position if Hart and friends didn't do what they did.
The real mistake is giving up on Stolarz.
Since drafting Stolarz in 2012, they drafted 11 goalies. Most notably are Fedotov, Tomek, Sandstrom, Hart, Errson, Kolosov, Zavragin and Bjarnason.
5 of those 8 have played in the NHL. Fedotovs career started late because of Russia, Harts career was cut short because of what he did.
Sandstrom and Errson were both good goalies in their leagues. Kolosov as well.
You can't expect every goalie to hit. We can just hope Zavragin and Bjaranson are hits and not misses. - WhiskeyMan
What has been proven that Hart has done? Nothing so far. His trial begins April 22, so until then, he is innocent.
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J35Bacher
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 04.03.2014
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Hard to worry much about the goaltending when the organization is being run by a Bullies fanboy, a cheerleading former broadcaster, a woefully inexperienced GM and a dinosaur head coach.
But, if we must, none of the current 3 fill me with any confidence whatsoever. They might have a future starter in Zavragin but he’s 3 years away from coming over and probably more like 5 years away from hitting his prime. That being said, just roll with Ersson & Fedotov next season, this team needs elite talent in the worst way and having those 2 in net significantly ups their chances of drafting said talent. - BiggE
Petersson is gone after this year so you probably have Carson Bjarnason and Kosolov in AHL next season splitting time. I have a feeling they take a goalie early this year with the multiple picks in 1st and 2nd round. I see no reason to be spending money or assets on a goalie for empty wins. |
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furio16
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Location: Moscow, ID Joined: 06.07.2007
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So if he is acquitted, how does that make him a proven criminal? - MBFlyerfan
Where did I say it did. Point was they have employed proven criminals in the past have they not? |
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furio16
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Location: Moscow, ID Joined: 06.07.2007
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Do you know what acquitted means? If he's acquitted, the law considers him not guilty. Why compare him to "proven criminals" in that scenario? Maybe he did it, maybe he didn't. Let the law figure it out, and then move on. - dramado
Who is comparing? |
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MBFlyerfan
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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Where did I say it did. Point was they have employed proven criminals in the past have they not? - furio16
Once he is acquitted, they can bring him back. Not like this organization hasn’t employed proven criminals in the past.
Maybe you just needed to be a little clearer. It's not like I was the only one who took it that way. |
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corduroy
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Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT Joined: 12.09.2006
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Where did I say it did. Point was they have employed proven criminals in the past have they not? - furio16
Billy Tibbets says hello |
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WhiskeyMan
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Location: PA Joined: 04.27.2018
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All Harts fault. Typical Flyers fan defending the orgin-eye-zation. Maybe the flyers should have done their due diligence. Once he is acquitted, they can bring him back. Not like this organization hasn’t employed proven criminals in the past.
All those goalies you mention are slop or haven’t even arrived yet. Maybe Tomek is a late bloomer. No issue moving Stolarz when they did.
No one is asking for them all to hit. What is your version of “hitting” on a goalie?. - furio16
Who said it was harts fault.
Flyers thought they had their #1 goalie for years to come.
Fedotov or errson or kolosov were going to be #2.
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Tomahawk
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Location: Free Frosty: Mission Accomplished Joined: 02.04.2009
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He has been around forever so I am not sure I trust his talent evaluation - corduroy
He's not the only one saying that the top forwards in this draft are not top shelf talents. They're all more "top-six potential" more than slam dunk stars.
Schaefer is the only guy that looks truly special pre-draft. |
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