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Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Yesterday @ 12:51 PM ET
The coaching decision is going to be fascinating because the team is going to be bad next year no matter what they do in the offseason. Will any decent coach want the job? Do you keep Torts for another year when every player is stagnating under his watch? Will Torts demand Rocky stay on setting up a battle between him and Briere?

It’s going to be a crapshow of an offseason but it will be interesting.

- psuhockey


If Torts is brought back next season he is a lame duck coach. Everyone will tune him out. With that said, being that bad will definitely help with securing a top pick in a better draft class in '26.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Yesterday @ 12:56 PM ET
If this man isn't gone at the end of this season.......
- Pelle31Forever

…Season ticket holders will still renew for some reason.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Yesterday @ 12:57 PM ET
If Torts is brought back next season he is a lame duck coach. Everyone will tune him out. With that said, being that bad will definitely help with securing a top pick in a better draft class in '26.
- Pelle31Forever

Yeah but are the top prospects 200ft players? This front office will trade back for a 3rd and think they’re smarter than everyone in the room for it.
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Yesterday @ 12:59 PM ET
We'll see what happens. New Era of Orange has certainly been all about player accountability. What happens when members of the coaching staff just cannot perform their job responsibilities to even a league average over an extended period of time? This summer by their actions or inactions, we'll have answers.
- Trox88

Torts was always a PR stunt to distract the fans while the team rebuilt. The Flyers had nothing else to sell. Made sense for Jones and Briere to keep him on while they remade the roster since he’s pretty all anyone wants to talk about both the haters and defenders. But now there is a legitimate super prospect on the team that fans like more than the coach. However the team will still stink next no matter what and the next one is at the top of the draft. Who wants this job and are they willing to suck it up for one more season? Is Briere willing to suck for one more season.

Everyone is assuming there is going to be changes this offseason to get better but from everything these guys say, it’s still 2026 they mention as the season they look to add the most.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Yesterday @ 1:00 PM ET
Oh to answer your question boston won with out drafting a 1st overall
- SlNlSTER



Great, but that wasn't my question.
That team had 3 top 5 picks on their roster. Just sayin'
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Yesterday @ 1:00 PM ET
Yeah but are the top prospects 200ft players? This front office will trade back for a 3rd and think they’re smarter than everyone in the room for it.
- hereticpride


I expect nothing less than a draft class full of guys who block shots and backcheck. Elite talent be damned.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Yesterday @ 1:26 PM ET
Should trots be fired

Hard to say, considering his nhl roster players got traded for picks, his number 1 goalie is gone do to sexual assault charge, not sure if any coach would win with this

Some players have made improvements

All depends on how u look at it, it's a rebuild so he wasn't expected to win a cup.

- SlNlSTER

Made my day.. How long you going to use the lame excuse about Hart?

Only players who made some real improvements are the veteran players. What has the coach done with the younger core players?

They are not rebuilding. Cracks me up you and others believe this. 3 years in to the “rebuild” no improvement has been shown
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Yesterday @ 1:28 PM ET
People on here hate torts because he is a big meant to players.

They wanted the team to tank and blame him for not taking . It's up to the GM to tank and thats what Danny is doing

- WhiskeyMan

They dislike him because he is a bd coach.

The co-GM isn’t tanking either. Wake up holmes.
Thors-Hammer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Daytona Beach, FL
Joined: 08.12.2013

Yesterday @ 1:29 PM ET
Torts and his defense/shot blocking style of coaching helped in the beginning, but now it's time for an offensive minded coach and no Lappy or anybody else from the Flyers system. Rocky hasn't had much to work with on our PP, but Rocky has to go. Time for a clean sweep, but who knows what DB will do? There will be coaching firings at the end of season as usual, so we really don't know who will be available to replace Torts.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Yesterday @ 1:29 PM ET
It is certainly a concern 2 years in a row he dropped off a cliff.
- Flyfly


Seems like most folks on here were right about not signing him longterm. He is a ride along first line player. A very good second line player. Should have traded him.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Yesterday @ 1:31 PM ET
The Rocky decision will show us further insight into the corporate structure. If the HC gets to keep his assistant who has failed miserably with one of his responsibilities, the GM is toothless. Torts is deflecting blame from his staff by proclaiming there is no PP QB on the roster. Seems to me the HC is putting the GM on blast to do a better job of acquiring talent. The white lie that Torts does not want everyone to know there is a track record of ineptitude of Rocky running a PP outside the organization. Also, Torts' PP in CLB was bottom third.
- Trox88

he had tony d who put up 42 points his lone season here. 19 on the PP. torts is full of crap. he is a BS artists which shows how bad the rest of the flyers management team is as they buy his nonsesne.
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Yesterday @ 1:40 PM ET
Torts and his defense/shot blocking style of coaching helped in the beginning, but now it's time for an offensive minded coach and no Lappy or anybody else from the Flyers system. Rocky hasn't had much to work with on our PP, but Rocky has to go. Time for a clean sweep, but who knows what DB will do? There will be coaching firings at the end of season as usual, so we really don't know who will be available to replace Torts.
- Thors-Hammer

PR and appealing to the paying fans is big for this management team. They are going to have to have something to sell about next season. By most accounts it’s going to be a stretch for anyone from the 2025 draft to be ready for the NHL next season. So that leaves a big trade, UFA signing or big name coach. Cant see any big name free agent signing and don’t know what the Flyers have to really sell for a big trade. It’s probably going to be a coach. Probable choice would be Tochett. Smart choice so in other words no chance at all would be David Carle.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Yesterday @ 1:48 PM ET
The one thing I can give Torts credit for is the team works hard most every night. The negatives are there is no improvement in results, the team is stagnant, no one has really broken out and developed under him and I dont think his style will move them forward. DB will not have what it takes fire Torts thats so he either will be back to coach or promoted to some new position
- hfc355


There have been individual improvements.

Couts looks better but not good enough. Still need more from him
Brink had been a lot better than last season. Set a new career high in points
Foester has improved, should be setting a new career high
Ristolainen has improved, moving the contract doesnt seem impossible anymore
Drysdale has improved
Fedotov has also improved significantly over whatever we saw at the start of the season

Not much but still something
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Yesterday @ 1:51 PM ET
If Torts is brought back next season he is a lame duck coach. Everyone will tune him out. With that said, being that bad will definitely help with securing a top pick in a better draft class in '26.
- Pelle31Forever


I mean that isnt the worst thing. A tuned out Torts means another top pick.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Yesterday @ 2:27 PM ET
I mean that isnt the worst thing. A tuned out Torts means another top pick.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

your also delaying this so called rebuild by another year being wasted. then new coach the rebuild time clock resets.

wash rinse repeat.

you either extend him or move on from him. the only 2 logical choices.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Yesterday @ 2:32 PM ET
I mean that isnt the worst thing. A tuned out Torts means another top pick.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


For sure. It just makes for uninspiring 82 games next season.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Yesterday @ 2:35 PM ET
For sure. It just makes for uninspiring 82 games next season.
- Pelle31Forever

Comcast is all about profit I was told. they wont allow that to happen.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Yesterday @ 2:37 PM ET
Bob Kelly is finally retiring from the front office. I guess 30+ years of freeloading is enough for anyone.

Hopefully Clarke isn’t far behind.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Yesterday @ 2:40 PM ET
Bob Kelly is finally retiring from the front office. I guess 30+ years of freeloading is enough for anyone.

Hopefully Clarke isn’t far behind.

- hereticpride

ND ready to be the next goodwill ambassador.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Yesterday @ 3:33 PM ET
your also delaying this so called rebuild by another year being wasted. then new coach the rebuild time clock resets.

wash rinse repeat.

you either extend him or move on from him. the only 2 logical choices.

- hello it's me 2050


What delay? You literally look for a reason to get pissy. We dont have the talent to be contenders, we need to tank but keeping a lame duck coach is wasting a year....... They uyear is wasted regardless because we are a bad team and thats not changing next season unless the team does what everyone fears they will do.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Yesterday @ 3:36 PM ET
Ek, are you seriously asking this question on this forum?
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Yesterday @ 3:41 PM ET
The Rocky decision will show us further insight into the corporate structure. If the HC gets to keep his assistant who has failed miserably with one of his responsibilities, the GM is toothless. Torts is deflecting blame from his staff by proclaiming there is no PP QB on the roster. Seems to me the HC is putting the GM on blast to do a better job of acquiring talent. The white lie that Torts does not want everyone to know there is a track record of ineptitude of Rocky running a PP outside the organization. Also, Torts' PP in CLB was bottom third.
- Trox88

How do we know Torts wants to keep Rocky? He likes Rocky for sure. Respects him, OK. But Torts has publicly stated the power play stinks and it has stunk for the 3 years he has been here. Yes, part of it is on the players, but a big chunk of the blame has to be on the coaching. The Flyers brought in Briere, LeClair, Sharp and Heatley to work with Rocky on the PP this year and it has not really improved. I think Torts will replace Rocky if he wants to continue coaching this team.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Yesterday @ 3:44 PM ET
What delay? You literally look for a reason to get pissy. We dont have the talent to be contenders, we need to tank but keeping a lame duck coach is wasting a year....... They uyear is wasted regardless because we are a bad team and thats not changing next season unless the team does what everyone fears they will do.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

use your brain.

it is not a wasted year if you make the right changes. see above use your brain.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Yesterday @ 3:48 PM ET
How do we know Torts wants to keep Rocky? He likes Rocky for sure. Respects him, OK. But Torts has publicly stated the power play stinks and it has stunk for the 3 years he has been here. Yes, part of it is on the players, but a big chunk of the blame has to be on the coaching. The Flyers brought in Briere, LeClair, Sharp and Heatley to work with Rocky on the PP this year and it has not really improved. I think Torts will replace Rocky if he wants to continue coaching this team.
- jd250

torts said don't blame the coaching or something to that effect. clearly you can tell he will not fire him by his comments. if Briere had final say you really think he would have let it go on this long?

I bet those 3 have had maybe 1 conversation about the pp. my guess it was all a ruse to say they were going to help.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Yesterday @ 3:50 PM ET
Should trots be fired

Hard to say, considering his nhl roster players got traded for picks, his number 1 goalie is gone do to sexual assault charge, not sure if any coach would win with this

Some players have made improvements

All depends on how u look at it, it's a rebuild so he wasn't expected to win a cup.

- SlNlSTER

I don't think Torts should be fired, but at a minimum he does have to do two things IMO if he wants to continue coaching: 1. replace Rocky or add a PP coach to the staff, 2. enforce that the Phantoms play the same style/system as the Flyers so players getting called it can slot right into the lineup without any adjustments.

Any good coach at any level is going to coach to win games, otherwise they should be fired. Torts wants to win, I have no problem with that. But what I don't like is sitting players late in games based on the situation, for example, playing Michkov only 3 shifts in the 3rd period when the Flyers up by a goal. I would even put Michkov on the PK to help him develop, but short of this, he needs to play in all situations in order to develop, and I think sitting young players because you don't trust them is not a good way to develop them.
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