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hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Today @ 9:05 AM ET
Ok let's make this simple what does rebuilding teams do???

They trade out aging players and pieces that won't fit for picks and prospects

2 first michkov draft, 1 first last year, 3 first this year, 1 next year, and 2 the year after

Seems like a team rebuilding

They have gather picks at deadline and not pushed for the playoffs

This is danny 2nd year
How much do you expect him to cook

- SlNlSTER

Rebuilding teams sign a 28-year-old TK to an 8 year ext all while they are bottom feeding team. Sign a middling unproven 26 year old winger in Tippet to an 8 year deal for 6.2 per. Re-sign Seeler for 4 years. Have GH under contract for 4 years. Add next to no young talent to their “core”. There has been little progress. The farm system is nothing at all. They have no one knocking on the door to be on the roster. My bad Danny is still new give him time and be patient.

1 of the first rd picks this year is from Fletcher. As is a 2nd I think.

This will be danny boys 3rd off season. Will there be any progress or the usual? He has don’t next to nothing so far. Made all the easy moves, many under the direction of the other CO-GM

What aging players have they traded out?
SlNlSTER
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2023

Today @ 9:09 AM ET
flyers already have a potential #1 center in the jett
- hello it's me 2050

Don't sleep on him, I've watch him live a dozen times this year, as gulph is only 20 min from me, and he better then u think.

This might be a sneaky great pick
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Today @ 9:15 AM ET
Don't sleep on him, I've watch him live a dozen times this year, as gulph is only 20 min from me, and he better then u think.

This might be a sneaky great pick

- SlNlSTER

I prefer woman so no worries about me sleeping on him.

Since I have little faith in the flyers scouts my expectations for him are not high. They will end up rushing him and setting him back. Unless they get several centers this summer.
SlNlSTER
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2023

Today @ 9:23 AM ET
I prefer woman so no worries about me sleeping on him.

Since I have little faith in the flyers scouts my expectations for him are not high. They will end up rushing him and setting him back. Unless they get several centers this summer.

- hello it's me 2050


That's fair, but the kid has been a big surprise, he has a higher ceiling then i thought at draft
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Today @ 9:27 AM ET
Total BS. Then according to you Torts is the best coach in the league.
- hello it's me 2050


How does this make Torts the best coach? He is doing the best he can with the little talent he has.

He is a coach of a team with little talent. Should he be fired like Richardson, maybe, but who would replace him. Just let his contract play out or fire him in the offseason.

Crying about him after every game is pathetic. Just enjoy the tank and cheer for Nashville and Buffalo


SlNlSTER
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2023

Today @ 9:27 AM ET
Has the team improved since the head coach took over?

Can you point to any individual player taking big steps in the development process?

Can you point to any individual player regressing or staying static?

Do you approve on how the coach has handled the “franchise” player?

Once you answer those questions you have your answer.

I hope he stays as his job is not done yet. Will he get that ext is the question. Otherwise we will see if the coach is FOS.

- hello it's me 2050


1. No
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. I'm ok with it
SlNlSTER
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2023

Today @ 9:29 AM ET
Rebuilding teams sign a 28-year-old TK to an 8 year ext all while they are bottom feeding team. Sign a middling unproven 26 year old winger in Tippet to an 8 year deal for 6.2 per. Re-sign Seeler for 4 years. Have GH under contract for 4 years. Add next to no young talent to their “core”. There has been little progress. The farm system is nothing at all. They have no one knocking on the door to be on the roster. My bad Danny is still new give him time and be patient.

1 of the first rd picks this year is from Fletcher. As is a 2nd I think.

This will be danny boys 3rd off season. Will there be any progress or the usual? He has don’t next to nothing so far. Made all the easy moves, many under the direction of the other CO-GM

What aging players have they traded out?

- hello it's me 2050

You need some players so yes they would.
Also you think michkov wants to be destroyed all season long( that has a higher chance of ruining him)
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Today @ 9:36 AM ET
I think it is fair to question whether Michkov wants another year of the Torts experience. The regime has banked its whole rebuild plan on Michkov as the foundation. With him being on his ELC, his only leverage is to call out the organization as incompetent. I get the sense Michkov is the type that is not shy about expressing his opinions behind closed doors. He got benched this season during a game as an example.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Today @ 9:39 AM ET
How does this make Torts the best coach? He is doing the best he can with the little talent he has.

He is a coach of a team with little talent. Should he be fired like Richardson, maybe, but who would replace him. Just let his contract play out or fire him in the offseason.

Crying about him after every game is pathetic. Just enjoy the tank and cheer for Nashville and Buffalo

- WhiskeyMan

Ok dumb dumb you said no coach can get anything from this team. Based on that statement you are saying he is the best.

To think no other coaches can get more is laughable. Young players are regressing or not taking any big leap forward. Especially offensively.

There is no tank you dope. There is nothing but incompetence.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Today @ 9:41 AM ET
You need some players so yes they would.
Also you think michkov wants to be destroyed all season long( that has a higher chance of ruining him)

- SlNlSTER

If the flyers continue down this path MM will ask out in time. He clearly hates losing and competes. Unlike CC he will not waste his entire career in philly.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Today @ 9:42 AM ET
That's fair, but the kid has been a big surprise, he has a higher ceiling then i thought at draft
- SlNlSTER

big surprise how?
SlNlSTER
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2023

Today @ 9:42 AM ET
I think it is fair to question whether Michkov wants another year of the Torts experience. The regime has banked its whole rebuild plan on Michkov as the foundation. With him being on his ELC, his only leverage is to call out the organization as incompetent. I get the sense Michkov is the type that is not shy about expressing his opinions behind closed doors. He got benched this season during a game as an example.
- Trox88


I don't think they even put Michkov into the discussion
SlNlSTER
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2023

Today @ 9:44 AM ET
big surprise how?
- hello it's me 2050

Because he better then i expected, I went to 4 games the year before they drafted jett and was like he is ok, so when we drafted him I was a little disappointed 😞.

But now I'm actually pretty happy with the pick and can see easily a 2nd c and a 1st c potential
wbon22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.21.2008

Today @ 9:45 AM ET
I didn't want him in the first place.

I think he has served his purpose and is now costing development and damaging culture.

I would try to bring in Kevin Dineen or Luke Richardson or take a really long, hard look at the top Junior coaches for the next head coach.
SlNlSTER
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2023

Today @ 9:45 AM ET
Ok dumb dumb you said no coach can get anything from this team. Based on that statement you are saying he is the best.

To think no other coaches can get more is laughable. Young players are regressing or not taking any big leap forward. Especially offensively.

There is no tank you dope. There is nothing but incompetence.

- hello it's me 2050

Maybe other coaches can, like i would be kicking tires on coach Q. But the rest available I don't think would make a difference
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Today @ 9:57 AM ET
I don't think they even put Michkov into the discussion
- SlNlSTER


Really? So they would be risking another terrible optics if Michkov speaks out after the Gauthier situation. I would have to disagree. I would assume at the year end player exit interviews if Michkov expressed dissatisfaction that would have an impact on decisions going forward. Of course, not the only reason to make decisions going forward, but definitely part of the process.

The attendance for the Flyers this season has been bottom third in relation to stadium capacity. It would have been a whole lot worse if Michkov was in the KHL this past season. He is the only reason right now for any interest in the Flyers. TK, Couts, Tippett, or Torts did not sell the tickets this season and won't be the reason tickets are sold next season.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Today @ 10:12 AM ET
Maybe other coaches can, like i would be kicking tires on coach Q. But the rest available I don't think would make a difference
- SlNlSTER

Torts has said he doesn't understand offense and doesnt know it.

think maybe just maybe this part of the reason this team cant score and has a crappy PP.

I will be curious what coach really wants to come here. Throw a bunch of money at Q maybe he takes it. A young guy who needs an opportunity. Possibly. Like many have said it will be a re-tread they hype up.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Today @ 10:22 AM ET
Torts has said he doesn't understand offense and doesnt know it.

think maybe just maybe this part of the reason this team cant score and has a crappy PP.

I will be curious what coach really wants to come here. Throw a bunch of money at Q maybe he takes it. A young guy who needs an opportunity. Possibly. Like many have said it will be a re-tread they hype up.

- hello it's me 2050



I would go after David Carle from Denver. Only retread I like is Sullivan if the Pens let him go. I liked Luke Richardson when he was with Senators organization but not sure if the Chicago gig hurt his chances now.

I mean I want someone who can build a system with the players, not force players into a system that doesn't bring out the best
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Today @ 10:30 AM ET
I would go after David Carle from Denver. Only retread I like is Sullivan if the Pens let him go. I liked Luke Richardson when he was with Senators organization but not sure if the Chicago gig hurt his chances now.

I mean I want someone who can build a system with the players, not force players into a system that doesn't bring out the best

- J35Bacher

Carle will have many options. Why would he take the Philly job?

Why Sullivan?
Dkos
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Today @ 10:57 AM ET
Carle will have many options. Why would he take the Philly job?

Why Sullivan?

- hello it's me 2050

I still have a bad taste in my mouth from the last college coach the Flyers had
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Today @ 11:23 AM ET
Starts with 3 weeks to go. 3 rounds with a losers bracket to play for 5th, 6th etc...

Final round is Slightly longer to take us to the end of the season.


https://hockey.fantasyspo...stand#leaguehomestandings

- MBFlyerfan

Thx
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Today @ 11:46 AM ET
Looks like the late rising prospect to make his way into the top 5 in the draft has been identified. His name is Jake O'Brien.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Today @ 12:12 PM ET
Thx
- landros 2
Looks like so far as 1 and 2 seeds we will have first round byes. We will see where we are at the end of the week.


My advice is to set your lineups anyway, because a week away, at least in my case, it becomes and out of sight out of mind thing and Ive forgotten to set my lineups when it did go live.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Today @ 1:01 PM ET
Ok dumb dumb you said no coach can get anything from this team. Based on that statement you are saying he is the best.

To think no other coaches can get more is laughable. Young players are regressing or not taking any big leap forward. Especially offensively.

There is no tank you dope. There is nothing but incompetence.

- hello it's me 2050


When I say no coach that includes torts. The team is what it is right now.

Aren't Cates and brink having career years?

Mm is doing just fine .

Weren't they all just doing well until the trades?

Players and coaches don't tank, gms do. They traded away 4 starters and accumulated picks. Now the team stinks.

I guess when Chicago traded away all their good players away it was a tank but not the flyers.

No team would take to and his new contract on
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Today @ 1:59 PM ET
I prefer woman so no worries about me sleeping on him.

Since I have little faith in the flyers scouts my expectations for him are not high. They will end up rushing him and setting him back. Unless they get several centers this summer.

- hello it's me 2050




Ek, is the above post really ban worthy? What is going on with this site?
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