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Agree with all of that. Mainly why I contend lacking an elite playmaker is priority. Marner again for all situations.
Unlikely but take a big swing - Nighthawk
Using your numbers posted a few comments ago, the Canucks have less than 12 million, to sign a couple forwards, not sure Marner signs for whatever Canucks might have available. He will want at least 11.6 |
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Using your numbers posted a few comments ago, the Canucks have less than 12 million, to sign a couple forwards, not sure Marner signs for whatever Canucks might have available. He will want at least 11.6 - Reubenkincade
I think Marner will get 12-13. If the Canucks want to make a run at a bigger name, they'd have to trade off some forward/s to free up cap space (Hoglander and Garland are easiest with their lack of trade protection)... but that's taking away from the area you want to improve.
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I think Marner will get 12-13. If the Canucks want to make a run at a bigger name, they'd have to trade off some forward/s to free up cap space (Hoglander and Garland are easiest with their lack of trade protection)... but that's taking away from the area you want to improve.
Sucks the Blues came back to win, helpful the Flames lost though - NewYorkNuck
I get Nighties want for talent like Marner, I just don't see it happening, as they need more than just1 forward to help with offense. The team is just stretched far to thin cap and talent wise. |
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I get Nighties want for talent like Marner, I just don't see it happening, as they need more than just1 forward to help with offense. The team is just stretched far to thin cap and talent wise. - Reubenkincade
I think Marner would be a great add as well, but it would require a whole lot of other roster moves. Seems unlikely given the roster makeup ATM. |
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I think Marner will get 12-13. If the Canucks want to make a run at a bigger name, they'd have to trade off some forward/s to free up cap space (Hoglander and Garland are easiest with their lack of trade protection)... but that's taking away from the area you want to improve.
Sucks the Blues came back to win, helpful the Flames lost though - NewYorkNuck
The team doesn't need distributors like Marner, they need trigger men like a Matthews or Ovie that can consistently put the puck in the net. Like I said earlier, with Hughes, they have no problems getting the puck up ice in transition which is their whole system. The problem is that no one can score off the rush with any real consistency to keep the D and goalies honest and have to defend the shot rather than cheat and take away the pass. It makes it really easy to defend against and Tocchet isn't good with changing strategy on the fly. |
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I get Nighties want for talent like Marner, I just don't see it happening, as they need more than just1 forward to help with offense. The team is just stretched far to thin cap and talent wise. - Reubenkincade
It’s my plan ‘a’ for a freebie. Running with EP & Chytil top 2C’s is ok just not sure if works in any PO’s season. My guess is Marner comes in at 12 or more. |
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The team doesn't need distributors like Marner, they need trigger men like a Matthews or Ovie that can consistently put the puck in the net. Like I said earlier, with Hughes, they have no problems getting the puck up ice in transition which is their whole system. The problem is that no one can score off the rush with any real consistency to keep the D and goalies honest and have to defend the shot rather than cheat and take away the pass. It makes it really easy to defend against and Tocchet isn't good with changing strategy on the fly. - DariusKnight
We’ve never had a 1oa to get either of those & neither snipes at their rate without a distributor. As for off the rush our zone entries need more skilled play drivers or it’s dump & chase. Hughes Garland Chytil only players. EP once he figures it out again. |
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It’s my plan ‘a’ for a freebie. Running with EP & Chytil top 2C’s is ok just not sure if works in any PO’s season. My guess is Marner comes in at 12 or more. - Nighthawk
Looks like Toronto is prioritizing signing Marner. Then they’ll deal with their RFA’s and UFA’s |
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We’ve never had a 1oa to get either of those & neither snipes at their rate without a distributor. As for off the rush our zone entries need more skilled play drivers or it’s dump & chase. Hughes Garland Chytil only players. EP once he figures it out again. - Nighthawk
Yeah and I don't know if Chytil can be relied upon moving forward. Came exactly as advertised - quick but injury trouble. Thought he had a good first little bit, provided some good zone entries as mentioned but also got rocked a few times before his latest concussion. He seems to put himself in bad spots and does so moving very fast. Admire the fearlessness but I thought he might have been knocked out after a few hits before the one where he got injured, which admittedly was pretty dirty and not so much his fault, but still a bad spot & turning his back when you'd think he could see there was a reasonable chance of contact. Still, responsibility should like with the player making the hit. |
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Looks like Toronto is prioritizing signing Marner. Then they’ll deal with their RFA’s and UFA’s - K-man25
I’m sure they are. They’ll die on that hill while the D & in goal lag behind.
27.5m cap to Sign Marner Knies & JT not much left if anything. |
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Yeah and I don't know if Chytil can be relied upon moving forward. Came exactly as advertised - quick but injury trouble. Thought he had a good first little bit, provided some good zone entries as mentioned but also got rocked a few times before his latest concussion. He seems to put himself in bad spots and does so moving very fast. Admire the fearlessness but I thought he might have been knocked out after a few hits before the one where he got injured, which admittedly was pretty dirty and not so much his fault, but still a bad spot & turning his back when you'd think he could see there was a reasonable chance of contact. Still, responsibility should like with the player making the hit. - Sayros
Pretty good break down 👍🏻 |
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I’m sure they are. They’ll die on that hill while the D & in goal lag behind.
27.5m cap to Sign Marner Knies & JT not much left if anything. - Nighthawk
Could be worse, they could be the Oilers and have
McDavid 17 mil
Draisaitl 14 mil
Bouchard 10 mil
Nurse 9 mil
That’s 1/2 the cap and still no cups. |
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Could be worse, they could be the Oilers and have
McDavid 17 mil
Draisaitl 14 mil
Bouchard 10 mil
Nurse 9 mil
That’s 1/2 the cap and still no cups. - K-man25
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Net out…
Good to great goaltending, good D good special teams. Recipe for lots of success possibly even a cup. Any of those are poor then need to out score the problem.
Canucks:
Good to great tending ✅
Good D ✅
Good special teams
- PP ❌
- PK ✅
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The team doesn't need distributors like Marner, they need trigger men like a Matthews or Ovie that can consistently put the puck in the net. Like I said earlier, with Hughes, they have no problems getting the puck up ice in transition which is their whole system. The problem is that no one can score off the rush with any real consistency to keep the D and goalies honest and have to defend the shot rather than cheat and take away the pass. It makes it really easy to defend against and Tocchet isn't good with changing strategy on the fly. - DariusKnight
Every team needs a Matthews or Ovie. But those guys work better when they're set up by someone like Marner. Look at Boeser... he took a massive dip when Miller left. Then he found some space with Petey, and once he went down he's been invisible again. Having Marner would make the team better and more dangerous... and he's generally a 25-30 goal scorer to boot. Again, I don't think it's probable, but putting him on the team makes it a better team than any of the other UFAs available. |
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Yeah and I don't know if Chytil can be relied upon moving forward. Came exactly as advertised - quick but injury trouble. Thought he had a good first little bit, provided some good zone entries as mentioned but also got rocked a few times before his latest concussion. He seems to put himself in bad spots and does so moving very fast. Admire the fearlessness but I thought he might have been knocked out after a few hits before the one where he got injured, which admittedly was pretty dirty and not so much his fault, but still a bad spot & turning his back when you'd think he could see there was a reasonable chance of contact. Still, responsibility should like with the player making the hit. - Sayros
I think he should pack it in to be honest. |
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Every team needs a Matthews or Ovie. But those guys work better when they're set up by someone like Marner. Look at Boeser... he took a massive dip when Miller left. Then he found some space with Petey, and once he went down he's been invisible again. Having Marner would make the team better and more dangerous... and he's generally a 25-30 goal scorer to boot. Again, I don't think it's probable, but putting him on the team makes it a better team than any of the other UFAs available. - NewYorkNuck
Other than Kucherov nobody else is in the same league of Marner’s playmaking maybe Panarin. Marner is even better all around & dangerous on the PK.
Say down a goal & need to load up a line. Hughes a no brainer.
Marner EP & ???
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Thank you NYN
This management group has publicly stated before that they don't renew/extend a coaches contract during the season. I believe it was during Bruce Boudreau's tenure. I think Tocchet will re-sign, but i also thought EP40 would regain his confidence and pot 40 this year. |
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On Tocchet, from Drance:
Tocchet speculation and why the team option matters
National media speculation about Tocchet’s Canucks future exploded into overdrive Thursday morning in the wake of the Philadelphia Flyers’ dismissal of John Tortorella.
Tocchet, of course, played for the Flyers. And he’s working through the final year of his contract, signed in January 2024 when he first joined the organization and replaced Bruce Boudreau — although the club has a team option to retain him beyond this season.
The Canucks bench boss, the reigning Jack Adams winner, is highly regarded within the industry and for good reason. While he’s drawn the ire of some segments of the Canucks fan base this season, which is understandable given the disappointing results and popgun offensive production this year, there’s no questioning the structural integrity that Tocchet’s Canucks have played with.
The Canucks have been consistently well organized and tactically thoughtful. Tocchet authored one of the great single-season defensive turnarounds in recent NHL history during the 2024-25 campaign. Among the head coaches in Canucks history, Tocchet trails only Alain Vigneault in career point percentage.
Any number of high-profile teams would be immediately improved by recruiting him — including the Flyers, the Boston Bruins, the Chicago Blackhawks and even the New York Rangers.
Tocchet, however, isn’t a free agent.
This isn’t a lame duck head coach working through the final year of his contract. The club has an option to keep Tocchet for another season, and The Athletic has been told, in no uncertain terms by a team source, that the club views Tocchet as their coach for next season and intends to exercise that option.
It’s clear Tocchet doesn’t want his contractual situation or Canucks future to be a story while his club fights for its playoff life.
“I think it’s better to wait, for me, so we can really sit down and talk, because I have no time to talk about my contract, in the sense that, you know … I’m all in with this team right now,” Tocchet said in a recent radio interview with Sportsnet 650.
“It’ll (happen at) the appropriate time. That’s really what it is. I can’t really concentrate on that stuff. Every day we come in, we’re really concentrated on a lot of different things. I’m very comfortable, and I think they are, too. That when it’s the appropriate time, we can spend some time and really dive in on where we’re going, what we’re going to do, and things like that.”
What’s also clear is that given what Tocchet has accomplished across two-and-a-half seasons in Vancouver, including winning coach of the year and guiding the Canucks to one of the most successful seasons in franchise history, he’s put himself in line for a raise on the $2.75 million he’s reportedly earned the past few years.
The Canucks would prefer to work out an extension over simply exercising their team option this summer. It will be a major storyline once the season concludes and a serious conversation — and negotiation — for the parties involved.
What’s clear for now, however, is that the speculation is mostly noise. The organization intends to keep Tocchet in place. |
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On Tocchet, from Drance: - NewYorkNuck
T occhet, however, isn’t a free agent.
This isn’t a lame duck head coach working through the final year of his contract. The club has an option to keep Tocchet for another season, and The Athletic has been told, in no uncertain terms by a team source, that the club views Tocchet as their coach for next season and intends to exercise that option.
Interesting. I was not aware of that. |
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Tocchet, however, isn’t a free agent.
This isn’t a lame duck head coach working through the final year of his contract. The club has an option to keep Tocchet for another season, and The Athletic has been told, in no uncertain terms by a team source, that the club views Tocchet as their coach for next season and intends to exercise that option.
Interesting. I was not aware of that.  - dbot
I thought RT had the option oh well my perfect record of knowledge is over. Lol |
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Tocchet, however, isn’t a free agent.
This isn’t a lame duck head coach working through the final year of his contract. The club has an option to keep Tocchet for another season, and The Athletic has been told, in no uncertain terms by a team source, that the club views Tocchet as their coach for next season and intends to exercise that option.
Interesting. I was not aware of that.  - dbot
Ya I thought it was a mutual option.. but I assume Drance has done his homework on that before publishing lol |
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On Tocchet, from Drance: - NewYorkNuck
What’s clear for now, however, is that the speculation is mostly noise. The organization intends to keep Tocchet in place.
I forgot about the team option, and it seems the people here that thought he would be signed by now, or kicked to the curb, also forgot.
As I said I like Tocchet and will be happy to see him sign an extension with another option year added. |
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