Political talk is done.

Bring it up, you’re gone for a notable period of time. I don’t give a rats ass who you are.

So if you see it, message me and report it, don’t reply or you’re risking being banned yourself.
- Dozzer

Atta way Dozzer!!!! Thank you man!

Marner has scored 100 points per 82 games 5 years in a row.

The difference is the playoff stats.

Much like Kadri, I'd love to see what Marner would do with MacKinnon and Makar though...
- Rare_Jewel

No one’s interested in something you didn’t do…a beauty Canadian said that.

Per 82, on pace - garbage. Doesn’t matter. They popped a stat saying over 82 games Robertson scores more 5v5 this year or whatever it was than AM34 - so he’s better? Nope.
Hope he finally gets there though. The guy needs to be as confident as can be going into playoffs.

Marner has scored 100 points per 82 games 5 years in a row.

The difference is the playoff stats.

Much like Kadri, I'd love to see what Marner would do with MacKinnon and Makar though...
- Rare_Jewel

https://www.hockeydb.com/...s/pdisplay.php?pid=161029

https://www.hockeydb.com/...s/pdisplay.php?pid=162163

So your saying the trade for Rantenan should have been made?

I just looked up Rantenen on Hocky DB - I didn't know he was coming off back to back 100+ point seasons - wow.

He won't hit 100 this year but he's at 84 now - had he not moved to Carolina I venture to guess he'd have hit 100 again.

https://www.hockeydb.com/...s/pdisplay.php?pid=162163
- Cush29

I'm not arguing about whether or not MLSE was justified in trying to trade Marner for Rantanen, or if it would be a good trade, or how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

I'm just saying that I'll bet a pitcher of beer and a plate of nachos that Marner was deeply hurt by it. It doesn't matter whether or not he should or should not feel hurt by it - his feelings are his feelings.

No one’s interested in something you didn’t do…a beauty Canadian said that.

Per 82, on pace - garbage. Doesn’t matter. They popped a stat saying over 82 games Robertson scores more 5v5 this year or whatever it was than AM34 - so he’s better? Nope.
Hope he finally gets there though. The guy needs to be as confident as can be going into playoffs.
- Big23Questions

Yep.

I hope Marner gets 100 this year.

I hoped Matthews scored 70 goals too.

Neither has ever happened.

https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=161029

https://www.hockeydb.com/...s/pdisplay.php?pid=162163
- Cush29

As I said, Marner has scored 100 points per 82 games 5 years in a row.

Imagine if he played with MacKinnon and Makar...

As I said, Marner has scored 100 points per 82 games 5 years in a row.
- Rare_Jewel

Means nothing. He has never recorded 100pts. When he does - he will be a 100pt player. Keep swimming though bud.

I'm not arguing about whether or not MLSE was justified in trying to trade Marner for Rantanen, or if it would be a good trade, or how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

I'm just saying that I'll bet a pitcher of beer and a plate of nachos that Marner was deeply hurt by it. It doesn't matter whether or not he should or should not feel hurt by it - his feelings are his feeling.
- Atomic Wedgie

Oh I'm not arguing was just trying to understand if you meant it was a deal that had he said yes to would have been a good one is all.

I like beer and nachos too much to make that bet because it's a losers bet IMO - I agree with you that he was for sure hurt by it.

Too much talk about feelings has this now stuck in my head dammit.....

Means nothing. He has never recorded 100pts. When he does - he will be a 100pt player. Keep swimming though bud.
- Big23Questions

99 points in 80 games "means nothing"?

Go back to begging for your account to be deleted.

99 points in 80 games "means nothing"?

Go back to begging for your account to be deleted.
- Rare_Jewel

Means nothing in an argument that he is a 100pt player. Nothing.

Go back to…just go.

Means nothing in an argument that he is a 100pt player. Nothing.

Go back to…just go.
- Big23Questions

- Rare_Jewel

Another beauty argument - at least one wasn’t a gif or meme so well done bud

Means nothing in an argument that he is a 100pt player. Nothing.

Go back to…just go.
- Big23Questions

This is bringing back such sweet, sweet memories of days gone by, when Phil Kessel was the best 40 goal scorer to never score 40 goals.

In the words of the late, great Whitney Houston, “Didn’t we almost have it all?”

I'm not arguing about whether or not MLSE was justified in trying to trade Marner for Rantanen, or if it would be a good trade, or how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

I'm just saying that I'll bet a pitcher of beer and a plate of nachos that Marner was deeply hurt by it. It doesn't matter whether or not he should or should not feel hurt by it - his feelings are his feelings.
- Atomic Wedgie

Marner was playing the game, trying to get a close to max money deal. The Leafs wanted him to sign before the deadline. He refused. Hence the Rantanen trade was available. He was ready to sign now, Marner was not. The Leafs had to explore this deal. Marner decided to nix it. Fine, then you FAFO. If he's butt hurt, then so be it. If the Leafs go out early, have Marner find his best deal, then make a deal to trade his rights so he can have an 8-year deal instead of 7

This is bringing back such sweet, sweet memories of days gone by, when Phil Kessel was the best 40 goal scorer to never score 40 goals.

In the words of the late, great Whitney Houston, “Didn’t we almost have it all?”
- Atomic Wedgie

Voice of an angle she had.

Marner was playing the game, trying to get a close to max money deal. The Leafs wanted him to sign before the deadline. He refused. Hence the Rantanen trade was available. He was ready to sign now, Marner was not. The Leafs had to explore this deal. Marner decided to nix it. Fine, then you FAFO. If he's butt hurt, then so be it. If the Leafs go out early, have Marner find his best deal, then make a deal to trade his rights so he can have an 8-year deal instead of 7
- JohnnyReb

My dude:

I don’t disagree with what you wrote above.

I’m just saying I believe Marner is truly butt-hurt about it.

Voice of an angle she had.
- Big23Questions

An obtuse angle?

My dude:

I don’t disagree with what you wrote above.

I’m just saying I believe Marner is truly butt-hurt about it.
- Atomic Wedgie

I would’ve all day traded Marner for Mikko - but agree that Marner was more than likely upset…not that Tre was wrong to ask (it’s his job and right as Marners right to say no), but Mitch is seemingly a very emotional individual.

An obtuse angle?
- Atomic Wedgie

Ahaha - I’m leaving my incorrect autocorrect…the joke is too good.

So your saying the trade for Rantenan should have been made?

I just looked up Rantenen on Hocky DB - I didn't know he was coming off back to back 100+ point seasons - wow.

He won't hit 100 this year but he's at 84 now - had he not moved to Carolina I venture to guess he'd have hit 100 again.

https://www.hockeydb.com/...s/pdisplay.php?pid=162163
- Cush29

Rantanen when playing with Nathan MacKinnon in Colorado: 64pts in 49 games (19 points on the power play);
Rantanen in Carolina - a defense first system: 6 points in 13 games (2 points on the power play);
Rantanen in Dallas: 15 points in 16 games (10 points on the power play).

I really think most of Rantanen's production comes from playing with MacKinnon and not as much of it is driven by Rantanen himself as he gets credit for.

I think I'd need more time to see him away from MacKinnon, but he just hasn't looked anywhere near as dangerous.

My dude:

I don’t disagree with what you wrote above.

I’m just saying I believe Marner is truly butt-hurt about it.
- Atomic Wedgie

Marner cornered the Leafs into having to trade him, if he wasn't going to sign. He could have signed a deal like Nylander's but chose to go for top dollar. Rantanen was ready to sign a contract, while Marner kept playing the game. Do you blame the Leafs for not wanting to save the asset instead of losing him in free agency? Why didn't Marner sign the same dollar amount as Rantanen? Because he wants more. He may find that he won't get that contract elsewhere, since he can only sign a 7-year deal to play elsewhere.

Marner cornered the Leafs into having to trade him, if he wasn't going to sign. He could have signed a deal like Nylander's but chose to go for top dollar. Rantanen was ready to sign a contract, while Marner kept playing the game. Do you blame the Leafs for not wanting to save the asset instead of losing him in free agency? Why didn't Marner sign the same dollar amount as Rantanen? Because he wants more. He may find that he won't get that contract elsewhere, since he can only sign a 7-year deal to play elsewhere.
- JohnnyReb

My dude:

Did you read what I wrote?

Political talk is done.

Bring it up, you’re gone for a notable period of time. I don’t give a rats ass who you are.

So if you see it, message me and report it, don’t reply or you’re risking being banned yourself.
- Dozzer

Marner cornered the Leafs into having to trade him, if he wasn't going to sign. He could have signed a deal like Nylander's but chose to go for top dollar. Rantanen was ready to sign a contract, while Marner kept playing the game. Do you blame the Leafs for not wanting to save the asset instead of losing him in free agency? Why didn't Marner sign the same dollar amount as Rantanen? Because he wants more. He may find that he won't get that contract elsewhere, since he can only sign a 7-year deal to play elsewhere.
- JohnnyReb

There's no chance Rantanen signs the same deal in Dallas as he would in Toronto.

Marner "wants more" because everybody else gets to avoid taxes he doesn't get to avoid living in Toronto.

When agents and players are negotiating contracts, they're talking about what money they take home, not about cap hits.

Vlad Jr. signed a massive deal. He lives in Florida and gets signing bonuses. Otherwise, he doesn't sign in Toronto for "500" million otherwise it'd be more like 220 million deal for him.

My dude:

I don’t disagree with what you wrote above.

I’m just saying I believe Marner is truly butt-hurt about it.
- Atomic Wedgie

$12.5m in pretty ice packs will fix that