Bad news is small sample sizes skew everything.

By this logic, Fred Andersen is the best playoff goalie right now by the stats.

Think about that for a second when Leafs fans ran him out of town because he "sucked in big games".

Stolarz, comparing his regular season stats to his playoff stats, absolutely fell off a cliff in the playoffs by that logic. He went from .926 SV% to .902 SV%.

Helly is the best goalie in the world right now. Some stupid bounces and bad luck doesn't change that.

Unless, of course, the sports media needs to create a story they can harp on.
- Rare_Jewel

Best goalie in the world 🤣🤣🤣

Knies is a beast. His goal yesterday was a beaut!!!
- underhill14

The talk about offer sheets is ridiculous.

There are a bunch of guys the Leafs would try to trade first, and/or not re-sign before they would let Knies walk for a few picks.

The talk about offer sheets is ridiculous.

There are a bunch of guys the Leafs would try to trade first, and/or not re-sign before they would let Knies walk for a few picks.
- Interloper

10000%

Best goalie in the world 🤣🤣🤣


- Cush29

Guess you're saying Stolarz is garbage. His career playoff numbers were bad / non-existent before this season and his SV% has dropped dramatically from his numbers this season.

The talk about offer sheets is ridiculous.

There are a bunch of guys the Leafs would try to trade first, and/or not re-sign before they would let Knies walk for a few picks.
- Interloper

Especially because the Leafs seem to do nothing with 1st round picks except waste them.

Especially because the Leafs seem to do nothing with 1st round picks except waste them.
- Rare_Jewel

Hey Jewelsie!

How ya doing bud?

You excited for tomorrow?

Lmao.

Guess you're saying Stolarz is garbage. His career playoff numbers were bad / non-existent before this season and his SV% has dropped dramatically from his numbers this season.
- Rare_Jewel

One the most important stats for a goalie in the playoffs is probably the Quality Start - because it basically tells you if teh goalie had a .900 save percentage in the game or better, which typically gives your team a good chance at winning.

In the regular season this year Stolarz had a 72.7 QS% and Hellebuyck had a 72.6%. Of course Helly had nearly twice as many starts and you could certainly argue that Stolarz' 34 games isn't enough to even qualify.

In the playoffs Stolarz is @ 75% - last night was his first non-quality start.
Helly is at 25% this year. Last year Helly was at 0% and the year before he was 20%. There's something unreliable about him in pressure situations in the past 3 seasons. We'll see how he does when gets back at home in these playoffs, but he isn't instilling me (nor his team's fans) with a great deal of faith right now.

One the most important stats for a goalie in the playoffs is probably the Quality Start - because it basically tells you if teh goalie had a .900 save percentage in the game or better, which typically gives your team a good chance at winning.
- Monkeypunk

That way of looking at stats in only 4 games can be very flawed. A goalie might only face 18 shots and 3 of them go in because of a lucky deflection or bounce. Now that goalie, who might have made 5 other amazing saves, is labeled as a low quality starter. It doesn't tell the whole story of each game. There are goalies in perfect position who get scored on by luck. There's others that are all over the crease and somehow the puck doesn't go in.

In the regular season this year Stolarz had a 72.7 QS% and Hellebuyck had a 72.6%. Of course Helly had nearly twice as many starts and you could certainly argue that Stolarz' 34 games isn't enough to even qualify.

In the playoffs Stolarz is @ 75% - last night was his first non-quality start.
Helly is at 25% this year. Last year Helly was at 0% and the year before he was 20%. There's something unreliable about him in pressure situations in the past 3 seasons. We'll see how he does when gets back at home in these playoffs, but he isn't instilling me (nor his team's fans) with a great deal of faith right now.

Statistically, anything can happen in 4 games. Like I said, Andersen is the best goalie in the playoffs by SV%. Then he gets run over and injured. Blackwood is the 2nd best goalie by SV%. For as much as everybody wants to look at stats, 4 games is a tiny sample size. Ullmark won a Vezina and then suddenly sucked in the playoffs.

The playoff game, the playoff style changes many teams. A few bounces, a few lucky breaks and everybody starts to overreach in both directions.

Statistically, anything can happen in 4 games. Like I said, Andersen is the best goalie in the playoffs by SV%. Then he gets run over and injured. Blackwood is the 2nd best goalie by SV%. For as much as everybody wants to look at stats, 4 games is a tiny sample size. Ullmark won a Vezina and then suddenly sucked in the playoffs.

The playoff game, the playoff style changes many teams. A few bounces, a few lucky breaks and everybody starts to overreach in both directions.
- Rare_Jewel

If it was just this year's 3-4 game sample, it would be pointless to discuss it. But it's not.

If it was just this year's 3-4 game sample, it would be pointless to discuss it. But it's not.


- Monkeypunk

And yet completely ignores what he did in 2017-2021 where he provided 20 "quality starts" out of 31 playoff games and a .918 SV% average? That graph seems to be cherry picking especially using the 4 game sample from this year to create a sense of visual plummeting.

And yet completely ignores what he did in 2017-2021 where he provided 20 "quality starts" out of 31 playoff games and a .918 SV% average? That graph seems to be cherry picking especially using the 4 game sample from this year to create a sense of visual plummeting.
- Rare_Jewel

Not really. Like any sports fan I'm a pretty big believer in "what have you done for me lately?" Not - how good were you? Sort of like how John Klingberg absolutely sucks but he was pretty decent in 2017.

Hellebuyck is about to turn 32 and that graph clearly shows he has been well below average in the playoffs for three consecutive years and while this year is worse, the problem for me is that all three seasons are consecutively bad and getting worse.

Now his regular season stats have shown that he quite clearly is still very capable but there's something going on in the playoffs for this guy and I don't know if I'd want my team to be his psychologist while he works it out . . .

Guess you're saying Stolarz is garbage. His career playoff numbers were bad / non-existent before this season and his SV% has dropped dramatically from his numbers this season.
- Rare_Jewel

No that’s not what I’m saying actually but nice deflection from your insanely wrong statement. 🤣🤣🤣

Caps looking listless

Not really. Like any sports fan I'm a pretty big believer in "what have you done for me lately?" Not - how good were you? Sort of like how John Klingberg absolutely sucks but he was pretty decent in 2017.

Hellebuyck is about to turn 32 and that graph clearly shows he has been well below average in the playoffs for three consecutive years and while this year is worse, the problem for me is that all three seasons are consecutively bad and getting worse.

Now his regular season stats have shown that he quite clearly is still very capable but there's something going on in the playoffs for this guy and I don't know if I'd want my team to be his psychologist while he works it out . . .
- Monkeypunk

I'm a big believer that playoff success requires a team effort, not expecting one guy to win everything for the rest. Didn't work with McDavid last year no matter what he did.

It's been 4 games and the series is still 2-2. Screened shots, poor defending and lucky deflections is what happened today. The Blues are the hottest team going into the playoffs while the Jets are an overrated team that only got to where they were because of Hellebuyck in the first place. Now they're simply not doing their part when the games get tighter to continue their regular season success and Hellebuyck is getting blamed for it. This same BS happened with Carey Price in Montreal his first 4 or 5 years. And in the end, his team was never good enough to get the job done (win a Cup) no matter how well he played.

I'm a big believer that playoff success requires a team effort, not expecting one guy to win everything for the rest. Didn't work with McDavid last year no matter what he did.

It's been 4 games and the series is still 2-2. Screened shots, poor defending and lucky deflections is what happened today. The Blues are the hottest team going into the playoffs while the Jets are an overrated team that only got to where they were because of Hellebuyck in the first place. Now they're simply not doing their part when the games get tighter to continue their regular season success and Hellebuyck is getting blamed for it. This same BS happened with Carey Price in Montreal his first 4 or 5 years. And in the end, his team was never good enough to get the job done (win a Cup) no matter how well he played.
- Rare_Jewel

I read this like I was reading the diary of a Hans fan in disguise.

The talk about offer sheets is ridiculous.

There are a bunch of guys the Leafs would try to trade first, and/or not re-sign before they would let Knies walk for a few picks.
- Interloper

Depending on the price.
If someone offer sheets for $10.5m per, are the leafs gonna accept that?
That could screw the leafs.

Depending on the price.
If someone offer sheets for $10.5m per, are the leafs gonna accept that?
That could screw the leafs.
- Fakepartofme

Getting 4 first round picks wouldn't screw the Leafs too bad

Depending on the price.
If someone offer sheets for $10.5m per, are the leafs gonna accept that?
That could screw the leafs.
- Fakepartofme

It would be a horrible situation, but I actually think the Leafs would strongly consider matching.

This is especially true if they fail to get out of the 1st or second round. At some point, they need to start thinking about what the next core looks like.

Getting 4 first round picks wouldn't screw the Leafs too bad
- systemtool

I dunno Toolsie, I would hate to lose Knies

I dunno Toolsie, I would hate to lose Knies
- Interloper

Me too but 4 firsts has great value!

Like I said what happens this summer is irrelevant today. Today we need to win in the playoffs.

Me too but 4 firsts has great value!

Like I said what happens this summer is irrelevant today. Today we need to win in the playoffs.
- systemtool

Ya screw contract talks. We’re in the middle of playoffs. Figure that crap out later.

Ya screw contract talks. We’re in the middle of playoffs. Figure that crap out later.
- bryant

This guy gets it

Getting 4 first round picks wouldn't screw the Leafs too bad
- systemtool

That's 4 deadline rentals or 4 prospects that get drafted, bust in Toronto then succeed after being traded somewhere else.

That's 4 deadline rentals or 4 prospects that get drafted, bust in Toronto then succeed after being traded somewhere else.
- Rare_Jewel

ty miss cleo. again. my concern isn't contracts it's the playoffs. maybe we all should focus on that. it never lasts long so let's go with it.

No game tomorrow, is that because of the election?