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SavyBruinsFan
Joined: 03.06.2007

Mar 1 @ 3:08 AM ET
You have to beat Tampa in order to have a good shot at anything, lol
madinsomniac
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.27.2006

Mar 24 @ 12:32 AM ET
a "good shot" is being in the final spot or within a point or two at this juncture. being virtually 6 pts back with 6 to play and 4 teams ahead of you is not "Good" it is delusional at best... the leafs have a delusional shot at the playoffs
go_leafs_go
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.21.2006

Mar 24 @ 12:41 AM ET
a "good shot" is being in the final spot or within a point or two at this juncture. being virtually 6 pts back with 6 to play and 4 teams ahead of you is not "Good" it is delusional at best... the leafs have a delusional shot at the playoffs
- madinsomniac


Yaaaaa i'm pretty sure we're 4 points back but thanks anyways.
sens rock
Joined: 09.30.2007

Mar 24 @ 12:54 AM ET
Yaaaaa i'm pretty sure we're 4 points back but thanks anyways.
- go_leafs_go


Boston has a game in hand, as does Buffalo, and you need an extra win (or OTL)to break the tiebreaker.
moneen02
Minnesota Wild
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Joined: 07.05.2006

Mar 24 @ 1:05 AM ET
a "good shot" is being in the final spot or within a point or two at this juncture. being virtually 6 pts back with 6 to play and 4 teams ahead of you is not "Good" it is delusional at best... the leafs have a delusional shot at the playoffs
- madinsomniac


Up until last season the last time Pittsburgh saw playoff action was in the 1999-2000 season, even with the lock out that is a pretty long time with no post season. And last year Ottawa handed Pittsburgh their ass...

SavyBruinsFan
Joined: 03.06.2007

Mar 24 @ 5:42 PM ET
Yaaaaa i'm pretty sure we're 4 points back but thanks anyways.
- go_leafs_go


lol do you not get it ? Beating Boston twice isn't going to even get you in. If Boston tanks, their points to go the Sabres (because they play them twice). You don't just have to win out, you have to win out without anyone else doing well. It's nearly impossible. And you can't allow 3 point games.
go_leafs_go
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.21.2006

Mar 24 @ 6:00 PM ET
lol do you not get it ? Beating Boston twice isn't going to even get you in. If Boston tanks, their points to go the Sabres (because they play them twice). You don't just have to win out, you have to win out without anyone else doing well. It's nearly impossible. And you can't allow 3 point games.
- SavyBruinsFan


look at bostons schedule.... they are not going to beat all those teams!

If you think about it all of are games are like playing at home, as there is ALWAYS a ton of fans who show up to Ottawa, Montreal, and especially Buffalo. The Leafs are in a good position and really i am not even slightly worried about that game in hand the Bruins have! They play New Jersey, Ottawa, and Buffalo in April to finish out the season. New Jersey and Ottawa are away and Buffalo is at home. while the sens and sabres games are back to back. And before that they play the leafs twice, and the sens and sabres again on back to back nights.

I am not worried about that right now. All the Leafs need to do now is focus on getting 4 points out of Boston these next 2 games.
Prax
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Checking Line, the place t, QC
Joined: 07.10.2006

Mar 24 @ 6:05 PM ET
look at bostons schedule.... they are not going to beat all those teams!

If you think about it all of are games are like playing at home, as there is ALWAYS a ton of fans who show up to Ottawa, Montreal, and especially Buffalo. The Leafs are in a good position and really i am not even slightly worried about that game in hand the Bruins have! They play New Jersey, Ottawa, and Buffalo in April to finish out the season. New Jersey and Ottawa are away and Buffalo is at home. while the sens and sabres games are back to back. And before that they play the leafs twice, and the sens and sabres again on back to back nights.

I am not worried about that right now. All the Leafs need to do now is focus on getting 4 points out of Boston these next 2 games.

- go_leafs_go


Well I sincerely doubt the leafs fans in the Bell Centre would outmatch the Habs fans in there... plus even then that's a little ridiculous, considering it doesn't matter whether all the fans in there are leafs fans they still don't get the last change.
SavyBruinsFan
Joined: 03.06.2007

Mar 24 @ 6:27 PM ET
look at bostons schedule.... they are not going to beat all those teams!

If you think about it all of are games are like playing at home, as there is ALWAYS a ton of fans who show up to Ottawa, Montreal, and especially Buffalo. The Leafs are in a good position and really i am not even slightly worried about that game in hand the Bruins have! They play New Jersey, Ottawa, and Buffalo in April to finish out the season. New Jersey and Ottawa are away and Buffalo is at home. while the sens and sabres games are back to back. And before that they play the leafs twice, and the sens and sabres again on back to back nights.

I am not worried about that right now. All the Leafs need to do now is focus on getting 4 points out of Boston these next 2 games.

- go_leafs_go


You managed to reply to my post without even addressing my post. Boston isn't who you have to worry about. It's the 3 teams between you and them. When the Bruins play their 2 vs Buffalo, you can't have any 3 point games. You effectively have no team you can cheer for. And the same is true of the games Washington and Florida play. They also play each other twice, so you can't get any scenario that helps you. The only reason you aren't already eliminated is this EXACT case:

1) you win out
2) In the head to heads like Buffalo-Boston and Washington-Florida, both of those series are regulation splits.
3) outside of those games, in their remaining 4-6 games, none of Boston/Buffalo/Washington/Florida pick up 10 points, or 5 wins.

Your odds are virtually nil.

madinsomniac
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.27.2006

Mar 24 @ 6:58 PM ET
lol do you not get it ? Beating Boston twice isn't going to even get you in. If Boston tanks, their points to go the Sabres (because they play them twice). You don't just have to win out, you have to win out without anyone else doing well. It's nearly impossible. And you can't allow 3 point games.
- SavyBruinsFan



um im pretty sure he doesnt get it or we wouldnt need these threads here at all
glucker
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.13.2007

Mar 24 @ 7:08 PM ET
lol do you not get it ? Beating Boston twice isn't going to even get you in. If Boston tanks, their points to go the Sabres (because they play them twice). You don't just have to win out, you have to win out without anyone else doing well. It's nearly impossible. And you can't allow 3 point games.
- SavyBruinsFan

If Leafs win all their remaining games, there is a 80% chance they make it in
madinsomniac
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.27.2006

Mar 24 @ 7:53 PM ET
If Leafs win all their remaining games, there is a 80% chance they make it in
- glucker

that math is bad. if the leafs win them that would give them 12 pts, they are 4 back and 9pts away from elimination, if boston won 50%, they are done. there is a greater than 20% chance there before you take into account the other teams ahead of them with easier schedules.

besides, toronto hasnt had a streak longer than 4 games this year, they will lose at least 2 more, which means boston needs to win two and tie one to put them out
go_leafs_go
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.21.2006

Mar 24 @ 9:04 PM ET
You managed to reply to my post without even addressing my post. Boston isn't who you have to worry about. It's the 3 teams between you and them. When the Bruins play their 2 vs Buffalo, you can't have any 3 point games. You effectively have no team you can cheer for. And the same is true of the games Washington and Florida play. They also play each other twice, so you can't get any scenario that helps you. The only reason you aren't already eliminated is this EXACT case:

1) you win out
2) In the head to heads like Buffalo-Boston and Washington-Florida, both of those series are regulation splits.
3) outside of those games, in their remaining 4-6 games, none of Boston/Buffalo/Washington/Florida pick up 10 points, or 5 wins.

Your odds are virtually nil.

- SavyBruinsFan


agreed. I know the chances are very small but they're there.
glucker
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.13.2007

Mar 24 @ 9:08 PM ET
that math is bad. if the leafs win them that would give them 12 pts, they are 4 back and 9pts away from elimination, if boston won 50%, they are done. there is a greater than 20% chance there before you take into account the other teams ahead of them with easier schedules.

besides, toronto hasnt had a streak longer than 4 games this year, they will lose at least 2 more, which means boston needs to win two and tie one to put them out

- madinsomniac

http://www.sportsclubstat...Northeast/MapleLeafs.html
86% chance

but don't worry, I know that chances are they'll miss
madinsomniac
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.27.2006

Mar 24 @ 11:14 PM ET
http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL/Eastern/Northeast/MapleLeafs.html
86% chance

but don't worry, I know that chances are they'll miss

- glucker



there are more than 14% of scenerios that have the leafs missing if they go undefeated, unless you use redundant scenerios based on the 4 teams ahead of them
madinsomniac
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.27.2006

Mar 24 @ 11:19 PM ET
there are more than 14% of scenerios that have the leafs missing if they go undefeated, unless you use redundant scenerios based on the 4 teams ahead of them
- madinsomniac



yep, that site uses this criteria:
"I wrote a computer program that randomly generates results for each remaining game. Then it tallies each team's position and repeats, millions of times. When the simulation "plays" a game it assumes each team has an equal chance of winning, with no regard for record, injuries, matchups, or streaks. To help flush out each teams highest and lowest possible seeds, I force them to win or lose all their remaining games for 1000 of the simulation runs. Here is an interactive chart that gives you a feel for how playing the season 10 million times sheds light on the possible finishing scenarios."

this isnt based on statistical facts, but rather an asumption based on a virtual simulation.


jakenewton
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Leaf fans still waiting for a , BC
Joined: 02.15.2007

Mar 25 @ 12:07 AM ET
glucker
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.13.2007

Mar 25 @ 2:08 AM ET
Dude........their odds are 4.5%............it's right at the top of the page. You also have to look at the teams ahead of them, on the same site, and when you combine all the odds.........the leafs come out at 4.5%.

It's not that complicated.

- Doppleganger

I know, I was basing that off the assumption that they won the rest of their games... not that I think that'll happen... I did make that clear, didn't I?
madinsomniac
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.27.2006

Mar 26 @ 2:12 PM ET
the answer is no.

figure out the question for yourselves
glucker
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.13.2007

Mar 26 @ 2:26 PM ET
the answer is no.

figure out the question for yourselves

- madinsomniac

Will Pittsburgh win the cup before their young stars need new contracts?
madinsomniac
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.27.2006

Mar 26 @ 2:42 PM ET
Will Pittsburgh win the cup before their young stars need new contracts?
- glucker


technically you are right, the need new contracts now, and they wont be holding the cup for a couple months yet
madinsomniac
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.27.2006

Mar 26 @ 2:45 PM ET
but the question i was looking for was will the leafs make the playoffs this year.

I would have also accepted will the leafs win a cup in my lifetime as well.....


glucker
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.13.2007

Mar 26 @ 3:12 PM ET
but the question i was looking for was will the leafs make the playoffs this year.

I would have also accepted will the leafs win a cup in my lifetime as well.....


- madinsomniac

I'm so sorry to hear that... hopefully they find a cure for whatever terminal disease you have so that you can live to see the Leafs hoist the cup
Leafer_84
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa
Joined: 08.14.2007

Mar 27 @ 4:47 PM ET
.3% chance at making the playoffs now...and I'm pretty sure a regulation loss means we're officially eliminated as we'd only be able to get 8 points and both the Flyers and Bruins would have 88 pts with 39 wins (the most we'd be able to get) and odds are they have other tie breakers...and even if they don't they would just need to go 0-4-1 to get beyond the reach of the Leafs.
SonofaHab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Monteal, QC
Joined: 01.29.2008

Mar 27 @ 5:01 PM ET
I'm so sorry to hear that... hopefully they find a cure for whatever terminal disease you have so that you can live to see the Leafs hoist the cup
- glucker


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