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Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 18 @ 9:50 AM ET
No, its summer and slow we need this.

besides, spatso would just make another Turris thread anyways

- senstroll

because he loves good young players so much!!!!!!!

(just not any that play for the "team he cheers for"... or any team other than the sens)
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Jul 18 @ 10:04 AM ET
because he loves good young players so much!!!!!!!

(just not any that play for the "team he cheers for"... or any team other than the sens)

- Feeling Glucky?



Look, you unloaded on me becasue if the Qualifying criterion of " At least 500 career points" when the comparison was made between Kessel and Spezza, on the website that I left the link for.

You then conjured up this great deception conspiracy and unleashed your verbal diatribe on me (as usual) because that's "your thing".

You wake up in the morning thinking about what I might have posted since you went to bed the previous day.

In short, you're obsessed with my each and every post, on any given issue, and you're compelled to take the opposite side no matter what.

You even spend much of you working day checking this site and posting, and I suppose there are other sites and other posters that you cyberstalk on the internet.

I reply to another poster that claimed Kessel was a superstar, and you could not keep out of an exchange that did not involve you.............but you always inject yourself into every exchange that I have with anyone else.

Don't you have anything better to do?
Perhaps get a girl/boy friend?

Is there not anything more to your life than chasing posters around the www and insulting them, making fun of them?

Don't you have a responsibility to your employer to do your job, rather than spending time here and the other sites where you have to take issue with others who don't see the world as you do?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 18 @ 10:18 AM ET
Look, you unloaded on me becasue if the Qualifying criterion of " At least 500 career points" when the comparison was made between Kessel and Spezza, on the website that I left the link for.

You then conjured up this great deception conspiracy and unleashed your verbal diatribe on me (as usual) because that's "your thing".

You wake up in the morning thinking about what I might have posted since you went to bed the previous day.

In short, you're obsessed with my each and every post, on any given issue, and you're compelled to take the opposite side no matter what.

You even spend much of you working day checking this site and posting, and I suppose there are other sites and other posters that you cyberstalk on the internet.

I reply to another poster that claimed Kessel was a superstar, and you could not keep out of an exchange that did not involve you.............but you always inject yourself into every exchange that I have with anyone else.

Don't you have anything better to do?
Perhaps get a girl/boy friend?

Is there not anything more to your life than chasing posters around the www and insulting them, making fun of them?

Don't you have a responsibility to your employer to do your job, rather than spending time here and the other sites where you have to take issue with others who don't see the world as you do?

- Doppleganger


That's definitely the first thing I did this morning. Do you have a camera installed in the apartment my girlfriend and I share? That's pretty creepy. Don't you have anything better to do than stalk people who disagree with your idiocy online?

I'd love to have nothing to do with you... however this sidebar keeps popping up with your crap, and every other thread in the misc and nhl threads is polluted by you.

If you could just start a new thread and post only there, I'd stay out of it. Promise.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 18 @ 10:47 AM ET
That's definitely the first thing I did this morning. Do you have a camera installed in the apartment my girlfriend and I share? That's pretty creepy. Don't you have anything better to do than stalk people who disagree with your idiocy online?

I'd love to have nothing to do with you... however this sidebar keeps popping up with your crap, and every other thread in the misc and nhl threads is polluted by you.

If you could just start a new thread and post only there, I'd stay out of it. Promise.

- Feeling Glucky?


I do believe Doppleganger is more correct in his interpretation of events.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 18 @ 10:52 AM ET
I do believe Doppleganger is more correct in his interpretation of events.
- spatso


Would you rather have Turris or Kadri as your #2 Center?
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 18 @ 12:34 PM ET
Would you rather have Turris or Kadri as your #2 Center?
- senstroll



That is very easy, Turris by a long way?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 18 @ 12:42 PM ET
That is very easy, Turris by a long way?
- spatso

top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Jul 18 @ 12:53 PM ET
I love the leafs winger depth, and they will score in bunches.The defense and center depth do need some work however.But they should remain a playoff team this season
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 18 @ 12:59 PM ET
That is very easy, Turris by a long way?
- spatso

Why is it that you'd chose the older player who, despite being given more opportunities to succeed, has yet to even touch 40 points over the younger player who got 44 points in 48 games, despite being on the 3rd line?

Do you believe Turris has some elite defensive game, or a physical aspect that would trump Kadri's production?

senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 18 @ 1:30 PM ET
That is very easy, Turris by a long way?
- spatso


you will need to provide more info on why
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 18 @ 2:01 PM ET
you will need to provide more info on why
- senstroll

Look no further than their jerseys
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 18 @ 2:07 PM ET
Look no further than their jerseys
- Feeling Glucky?


There has to be more of an explanation than Burke drafted Kadri
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 18 @ 2:09 PM ET
There has to be more of an explanation than Burke drafted Kadri
- senstroll

It probably has something to do with the myth that anyone would want to draft Cowen over Kadri.


edit: maybe he just feels like Kadri would be wasted on the 2nd line, and should only be a top liner.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Jul 18 @ 2:51 PM ET


I'd love to have nothing to do with you... however this sidebar keeps popping up with your crap, and every other thread in the misc and nhl threads is polluted by you.

If you could just start a new thread and post only there, I'd stay out of it. Promise.

- Feeling Glucky?


no one is forcing you to inject yourself into an exchange between two different posters, other than yourself.

look in mirror buddy, you actually may be able to stop yourself if you wanted to.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 18 @ 2:55 PM ET
no one is forcing you to inject yourself into an exchange between two different posters, other than yourself.

look in mirror buddy, you actually may be able to stop yourself if you wanted to.

- Doppleganger

my cubicle has no mirrors, only a slightly reflective magnet board... but I can only see my silhouette in it.

And unfortunately, I'd have trouble stopping myself even there. I have a compulsion to correct things that I know are wrong.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Jul 18 @ 3:05 PM ET
I do believe Doppleganger is more correct in his interpretation of events.
- spatso



You're correct, here is the series (in the exact order back on pg 44) of exchanges between myself and two different posters...........and then our freind has no choice but to insert himself, and of course insult those who he cyberstalks

Tuesday @ 5:19 PM ET

Kessel is a superstar. He plays every game, and is now PPG regular season player and playoff performer And he does this with Bozak as his centre.

I picked them to miss the playoffs too. The issue I have is if a guy on TSN picks them to make it, he's a lahuingstock to make the Leaf-haters happy.

- RogerRoeper



Tuesday @ 8:39 PM ET

So if finishing with 52 points, and eighth in the NHL points (last season) and with 82 points and 6th in points the 2011/12 season , makes him a superstar.............then I guess that means Spezza who finished ahead of him in points in the 2011/12 season (4th overall) is also a superstar?
- Doppleganger


Wednesday @ 9:01 AM ET
he only averaged 60 games a year for the past 4..so no hes not
- senstroll


Wednesday @ 9:51 AM ET

So despite the fact that Spezza is ranked 6th among active NHLers in P/PG
http://www.quanthockey.co...nts-per-game-leaders.html
Sidney Crosby.......................1.415
Alexander Ovechkin...............1.223
Evgeni Malkin........................1.223
Jaromír Jágr..........................1.214
Teemu Selänne.....................1.031
Jason Spezza.......................1.016


Your logic is that he (Spezza) is NOT a superstar............but Kessel, who is not even ranked in the top 50 among active NHLers in P/PG somehow is a superstar????

Is this is what you call "leaf fan logic"?

- Doppleganger


And here he just has to inject himself into the discussion proving that it is the tactic of the inferior man to make personal attacks rather than deal directly with the facts that have already been presented.


Wednesday @ 9:54 AM ET

Goddamn you're stupid.

It's just amazing, really.

I'm not even agreeing with the guy that says Kessel is a superstar... but if this is your argument...


wow.

Do you get help putting your socks on in the morning? Like, if the social workers weren't helping you, would you be wearing them on your hands instead?

Because we'd all benefit if that was the case.

- Feeling Glucky?

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Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Jul 18 @ 3:10 PM ET
my cubicle has no mirrors, only a slightly reflective magnet board... but I can only see my silhouette in it.

And unfortunately, I'd have trouble stopping myself even there. I have a compulsion to correct things that I know are wrong.

- Feeling Glucky?



So when a leaf fan suggests Kessel is a superstar, and when he was asked that he should also consider Spezza a superstar as well BY using his own P/PG criteria..............................you saw something wrong there?

Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 18 @ 3:26 PM ET
So when a leaf fan suggests Kessel is a superstar, and when he was asked that he should also consider Spezza a superstar as well BY using his own P/PG criteria..............................you saw something wrong there?


- Doppleganger

look back, I was pretty clear with what the issue was.

Unless you just want to continue ignoring facts, as usual.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 18 @ 3:28 PM ET
You're correct, here is the series (in the exact order back on pg 44) of exchanges between myself and two different posters...........and then our freind has no choice but to insert himself, and of course insult those who he cyberstalks

Tuesday @ 5:19 PM ET




Tuesday @ 8:39 PM ET



Wednesday @ 9:01 AM ET


Wednesday @ 9:51 AM ET



And here he just has to inject himself into the discussion proving that it is the tactic of the inferior man to make personal attacks rather than deal directly with the facts that have already been presented.


Wednesday @ 9:54 AM ET


.

- Doppleganger



so, who's ignoring facts now?

PS. accusations of cyberstalking are pretty funny coming from a guy who routinely brings up posts from years past to try and prove someone wrong or hypocritical. How big is your hockeybuzz bookmark folder?
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

Jul 18 @ 8:28 PM ET
No, its summer and slow we need this.

besides, spatso would just make another Turris thread anyways

- senstroll

Yes but, if he did, it wouldn't pop up in my "my threads"
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 18 @ 10:48 PM ET
Just to point out, I can't call a guy who's 4th in NHL points the last two years a "Superstar", but we everybody was ok calling Seguin and Hamilton superstar sand franchise players before they played a single game.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 19 @ 6:44 AM ET
Just to point out, I can't call a guy who's 4th in NHL points the last two years a "Superstar", but we everybody was ok calling Seguin and Hamilton superstar sand franchise players before they played a single game.
- RogerRoeper


I don't think there is much left to debate. I have always liked the player but hated the trade. Do not believe Kessel is a Leaf for life. Does not fit into the Leaf centric sports madness of Southern Ontario. For similar reasons, I don't think he could fit in Philadelphia or Montreal.

He is much more suited to the country club or corporate atmosphere of Vancouver, Washington, Carolina, Detroit, LA or San Jose. I would not be surprised if the Leafs were to get an outstanding deal if they were to decide to deal him.

I would do Kessel to Dallas (Detroit Southwest) straight up for Seguin.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Jul 19 @ 7:19 AM ET
I don't think there is much left to debate. I have always liked the player but hated the trade. Do not believe Kessel is a Leaf for life. Does not fit into the Leaf centric sports madness of Southern Ontario. For similar reasons, I don't think he could fit in Philadelphia or Montreal.

He is much more suited to the country club or corporate atmosphere of Vancouver, Washington, Carolina, Detroit, LA or San Jose. I would not be surprised if the Leafs were to get an outstanding deal if they were to decide to deal him.

I would do Kessel to Dallas (Detroit Southwest) straight up for Seguin.

- spatso


If he is to remain a leaf, they have to sign him well before the trade deadline, otherwise the toronto sports media vortex willl encompass 90% of the total sports spotlight the closer it come to the trade deadline.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Jul 19 @ 7:21 AM ET


so, who's ignoring facts now?

PS. accusations of cyberstalking are pretty funny coming from a guy who routinely brings up posts from years past to try and prove someone wrong or hypocritical. How big is your hockeybuzz bookmark folder?

- Feeling Glucky?



I've clearly shown that you injected yourself into a conversation that did not include you, because you claimed something was wrong and super cyberstalker had to correct it.

my cubicle has no mirrors, only a slightly reflective magnet board... but I can only see my silhouette in it.

And unfortunately, I'd have trouble stopping myself even there. I have a compulsion to correct things that I know are wrong.

- Feeling Glucky?


And yet when asked, you can't explain what was "wrong" and just continue to deflect to cover up your shortcomings.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 19 @ 7:38 AM ET
I don't think there is much left to debate. I have always liked the player but hated the trade. Do not believe Kessel is a Leaf for life. Does not fit into the Leaf centric sports madness of Southern Ontario. For similar reasons, I don't think he could fit in Philadelphia or Montreal.

He is much more suited to the country club or corporate atmosphere of Vancouver, Washington, Carolina, Detroit, LA or San Jose. I would not be surprised if the Leafs were to get an outstanding deal if they were to decide to deal him.

I would do Kessel to Dallas (Detroit Southwest) straight up for Seguin.

- spatso


Before the season started I would have agreed 100%
Not so much now.

I think Kessel signs a longterm deal with Toronto, in the 7.5 range.

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